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Reply #120 - May 27^th, 2012 at 7:32pm

Avram Horowitz wrote on May 27^th, 2012 at 7:16pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 27^th, 2012 at 6:48pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on May 27^th, 2012 at 6:36pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 27^th, 2012 at 5:20pm:

Actually this thread was supposed to be about avrams religious beliefs. I wanted to know if he is religious and if he follows the OT and believes in the OT. Do you avram? What are your religious beliefs?

Avram can you go here please?

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I told you this very first post.
I am secular Jewish, child of one Israeli and one American parent.
I observe major Jewish religious but do not attend the temple regular.

Oh you did too! I remember now.

What does secular jewish mean? That you dont attend the temple regular? What is major jewish religious? Is that the OT? Is the Torah the OT? I dont know.

What does your parentage have to do with it?

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My parentage? Because he is born is Israel, I am born in Israel.
You say we should leave? This is our home.

I am religious but it does not run my life.
I observe Jewish teachings.

I never said you should leave. Why would you say that?

What are jewish teachings?

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Avram Horowitz Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3153 Australia Gender:	Re: Avram's beliefs Reply #121 - May 27^th, 2012 at 7:37pm When people call for Israel to be removed. For the Jews to not be there. You are saying to me and my parents to leave our home of birth.
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Re: Avram's beliefs
Reply #122 - May 27^th, 2012 at 7:40pm

Avram Horowitz wrote on May 27^th, 2012 at 7:37pm:

When people call for Israel to be removed. For the Jews to not be there.
You are saying to me and my parents to leave our home of birth.

I never said that. I said israel needs to be stopped. From committing these atrocities. I said you need to get out of the west bank and gaza. I never said you should leave israel.

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Re: Avram's beliefs
Reply #123 - May 27^th, 2012 at 7:43pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 27^th, 2012 at 7:40pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on May 27^th, 2012 at 7:37pm:

When people call for Israel to be removed. For the Jews to not be there.
You are saying to me and my parents to leave our home of birth.

I never said that. I said israel needs to be stopped. From committing these atrocities. I said you need to get out of the west bank and gaza. I never said you should leave israel.

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We are not in Gaza at all.
West Bank is majority under Palestinian control.

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Reply #124 - May 27^th, 2012 at 8:57pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 27^th, 2012 at 7:40pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on May 27^th, 2012 at 7:37pm:

When people call for Israel to be removed. For the Jews to not be there.
You are saying to me and my parents to leave our home of birth.

I never said that. I said israel needs to be stopped. From committing these atrocities. I said you need to get out of the west bank and gaza. I never said you should leave israel.

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Unfortunately Borg for many Muslims, including probably all of the ones lobbing rockets into Israel at every opportunity, the only solution is for the Jews to leave. You only have to look at what Australians like Puppet, Abu and Falah say to see the problem. They are the people Israel has to negotiate with, not you. Israel could make all sorts of agreements with reasonable people like you, but it won't stop the Palestinians attacking Israel with whatever they can get their hands on.

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Re: Avram's beliefs
Reply #125 - May 27^th, 2012 at 9:19pm

freediver wrote on May 27^th, 2012 at 8:57pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 27^th, 2012 at 7:40pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on May 27^th, 2012 at 7:37pm:

When people call for Israel to be removed. For the Jews to not be there.
You are saying to me and my parents to leave our home of birth.

I never said that. I said israel needs to be stopped. From committing these atrocities. I said you need to get out of the west bank and gaza. I never said you should leave israel.

SOB

Unfortunately Borg for many Muslims, including probably all of the ones lobbing rockets into Israel at every opportunity, the only solution is for the Jews to leave. You only have to look at what Australians like Puppet, Abu and Falah say to see the problem. They are the people Israel has to negotiate with, not you. Israel could make all sorts of agreements with reasonable people like you, but it won't stop the Palestinians attacking Israel with whatever they can get their hands on.

So for example if someone was to invade Australia would you be happy to compromise and let them take all the land, pushing us to small guarded communities or would you want to take it all back? Or at least have the majority back..

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Re: Avram's beliefs
Reply #126 - May 27^th, 2012 at 9:26pm

bobbythefap1 wrote on May 27^th, 2012 at 9:19pm:

freediver wrote on May 27^th, 2012 at 8:57pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 27^th, 2012 at 7:40pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on May 27^th, 2012 at 7:37pm:

When people call for Israel to be removed. For the Jews to not be there.
You are saying to me and my parents to leave our home of birth.

I never said that. I said israel needs to be stopped. From committing these atrocities. I said you need to get out of the west bank and gaza. I never said you should leave israel.

SOB

Unfortunately Borg for many Muslims, including probably all of the ones lobbing rockets into Israel at every opportunity, the only solution is for the Jews to leave. You only have to look at what Australians like Puppet, Abu and Falah say to see the problem. They are the people Israel has to negotiate with, not you. Israel could make all sorts of agreements with reasonable people like you, but it won't stop the Palestinians attacking Israel with whatever they can get their hands on.

So for example if someone was to invade Australia would you be happy to compromise and let them take all the land, pushing us to small guarded communities or would you want to take it all back? Or at least have the majority back..

You do know that majority of west bank and all of Gaza is under Palestinian control?

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Re: Avram's beliefs
Reply #127 - May 27^th, 2012 at 9:30pm

Avram Horowitz wrote on May 27^th, 2012 at 9:26pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on May 27^th, 2012 at 9:19pm:

freediver wrote on May 27^th, 2012 at 8:57pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 27^th, 2012 at 7:40pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on May 27^th, 2012 at 7:37pm:

When people call for Israel to be removed. For the Jews to not be there.
You are saying to me and my parents to leave our home of birth.

I never said that. I said israel needs to be stopped. From committing these atrocities. I said you need to get out of the west bank and gaza. I never said you should leave israel.

SOB

Unfortunately Borg for many Muslims, including probably all of the ones lobbing rockets into Israel at every opportunity, the only solution is for the Jews to leave. You only have to look at what Australians like Puppet, Abu and Falah say to see the problem. They are the people Israel has to negotiate with, not you. Israel could make all sorts of agreements with reasonable people like you, but it won't stop the Palestinians attacking Israel with whatever they can get their hands on.

So for example if someone was to invade Australia would you be happy to compromise and let them take all the land, pushing us to small guarded communities or would you want to take it all back? Or at least have the majority back..

You do know that majority of west bank and all of Gaza is under Palestinian control?

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Avram Horowitz Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3153 Australia Gender:	Re: Avram's beliefs Reply #128 - May 27^th, 2012 at 10:01pm Not an answer.
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bobbythefap1 Gold Member Offline Posts: 7026 Listen now to the rain	Re: Avram's beliefs Reply #129 - May 27^th, 2012 at 10:03pm Avram Horowitz wrote on May 27^th, 2012 at 10:01pm: Not an answer. No legitimate question to answer
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Avram Horowitz Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3153 Australia Gender:	Re: Avram's beliefs Reply #130 - May 27^th, 2012 at 10:08pm You said that it was for them to control most of the land. They already do. That is why they should stop their terrorism.
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Re: Avram's beliefs
Reply #131 - May 28^th, 2012 at 8:28am

bobbythefap1 wrote on May 27^th, 2012 at 9:19pm:

freediver wrote on May 27^th, 2012 at 8:57pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 27^th, 2012 at 7:40pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on May 27^th, 2012 at 7:37pm:

When people call for Israel to be removed. For the Jews to not be there.
You are saying to me and my parents to leave our home of birth.

I never said that. I said israel needs to be stopped. From committing these atrocities. I said you need to get out of the west bank and gaza. I never said you should leave israel.

SOB

Unfortunately Borg for many Muslims, including probably all of the ones lobbing rockets into Israel at every opportunity, the only solution is for the Jews to leave. You only have to look at what Australians like Puppet, Abu and Falah say to see the problem. They are the people Israel has to negotiate with, not you. Israel could make all sorts of agreements with reasonable people like you, but it won't stop the Palestinians attacking Israel with whatever they can get their hands on.

So for example if someone was to invade Australia would you be happy to compromise and let them take all the land, pushing us to small guarded communities or would you want to take it all back? Or at least have the majority back..

The Israelis did not invade. They were already there.

What pisses the Muslims off is that the Jews took control. The proper Islamic way for this to happen is for them to be enslaved, convert to Islam, buy their freedom, then work on regaining control. Abu is very proud of Islam's tradition on this.

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Re: Avram's beliefs
Reply #132 - May 28^th, 2012 at 8:34am

freediver wrote on May 27^th, 2012 at 8:57pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 27^th, 2012 at 7:40pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on May 27^th, 2012 at 7:37pm:

When people call for Israel to be removed. For the Jews to not be there.
You are saying to me and my parents to leave our home of birth.

I never said that. I said israel needs to be stopped. From committing these atrocities. I said you need to get out of the west bank and gaza. I never said you should leave israel.

SOB

Unfortunately Borg for many Muslims, including probably all of the ones lobbing rockets into Israel at every opportunity, the only solution is for the Jews to leave. You only have to look at what Australians like Puppet, Abu and Falah say to see the problem. They are the people Israel has to negotiate with, not you. Israel could make all sorts of agreements with reasonable people like you, but it won't stop the Palestinians attacking Israel with whatever they can get their hands on.

in self defense. And because they are angry @ the oppression. If peace is ever finally negotiated its going to take @ least a generation for the anger to subside i reckon.

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Re: Avram's beliefs
Reply #133 - May 28^th, 2012 at 8:35am

Avram Horowitz wrote on May 27^th, 2012 at 9:26pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on May 27^th, 2012 at 9:19pm:

freediver wrote on May 27^th, 2012 at 8:57pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 27^th, 2012 at 7:40pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on May 27^th, 2012 at 7:37pm:

When people call for Israel to be removed. For the Jews to not be there.
You are saying to me and my parents to leave our home of birth.

I never said that. I said israel needs to be stopped. From committing these atrocities. I said you need to get out of the west bank and gaza. I never said you should leave israel.

SOB

Unfortunately Borg for many Muslims, including probably all of the ones lobbing rockets into Israel at every opportunity, the only solution is for the Jews to leave. You only have to look at what Australians like Puppet, Abu and Falah say to see the problem. They are the people Israel has to negotiate with, not you. Israel could make all sorts of agreements with reasonable people like you, but it won't stop the Palestinians attacking Israel with whatever they can get their hands on.

So for example if someone was to invade Australia would you be happy to compromise and let them take all the land, pushing us to small guarded communities or would you want to take it all back? Or at least have the majority back..

You do know that majority of west bank and all of Gaza is under Palestinian control?

But not all.

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Sir Spot of Borg Gold Member Offline WE ARE BORG Posts: 26509 Australia	Re: Avram's beliefs Reply #134 - May 28^th, 2012 at 8:36am Avram Horowitz wrote on May 27^th, 2012 at 10:08pm: You said that it was for them to control most of the land. They already do. That is why they should stop their terrorism. All of west bank. Thats reasonable. SOB
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