So let's be clear here - you are saying the person who deliberately sets off a bomb on a bus in a marketplace and murders women and little children is right to do so? Also that you support it?

Also on the anti-semitism, you are the poster who called Avram fking Jew boy, that he should be shot and that Jews were scum.
Your track record betrays you.

bobbythefap1 wrote on May 22^nd, 2012 at 2:23pm:



I will give you a chance to take that back.
That is a racially offensive term to call him that.

bobbythefap1 wrote on May 22^nd, 2012 at 10:54am:



No he is not.

Avram has no love of terror.


PP = a dissembler, a lover of darkness.

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 23^rd, 2012 at 11:55am:



Being an intelligent person, Avram prolly believes that 'Palestinians' should get on with their lives,  .....somewhere else.

Israel belongs to the Jewish people.

Might is right.





p.s. that last line, is a quote expressing moslem philosophy on property and land ownership.

i.e. "We take, you give. That is Allah's law."

And after the Jewish people were given back their land, by the world community [post WWI, WWII], moslem philosophy on property and land ownership came into play once more.
i.e. "We take, you give. That is Allah's law."


My opinion of moslems, is that they worship a demon.

"Pssst, pssst Allah, please destroy Israel.    Sorry, no can do. The God of Israel protects Israel.    You moslems tried four times already to destroy Israel. Can't you see yet, that i am just a powerless demon who wants you to die for me? So please just attack Israel again, because i need more footstools down here."

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And according to moslems, the whole earth belongs to moslems.



"You should Know that the earth belongs to Allah and His Apostle, and I want to exile you from,,, this land, so whoever among you owns some property, can sell it, otherwise you should know that the Earth belongs to Allah and His Apostle."
hadithsunnah/bukhari/ #009.085.077
hadithsunnah/bukhari/ #004.053.392


n.b.



According to Allah, [as war booty], as per ISLAM's foundation texts, the Koran, and the Hadith....

"Or have they gods that can guard them from Us? They have no power to aid themselves, nor can they be defended from Us.
...See they not that We gradually reduce the land (in their control) from its outlying borders? Is it then they who will win?"
Koran 21:43-44


"And He made you [moslems] heirs to their [non-moslem] land and their dwellings and their property, and (to) a land which you have not yet trodden, and Allah has power over all things."
Koran 33:27

Yadda wrote on May 23^rd, 2012 at 12:19pm:


Did prophet Abraham worship a demon Yadda?




And they say, "Be Jews or Christians, then you will be guided." Say, "Nay, we follow only the religion of (prophet) Abraham the Orthodox Monotheist, and he was not of the pagans."
[The Quran, al-Baqarah,  V. 135]





"Allah" in Arabic is "Elaw" in Aramaic.  The Jews and Christians before Islam called GOD Almighty as "Allah" in the Middle East.   "Allah" means the GOD Almighty that is above all gods (idols, humans, etc...).  "Elaw" in Aramaic means "God" or "GOD", and it means the same thing that the Arabic "Allah" means.

I have provided archeological evidence that proved that the Arabic and Aramaic-speaking Jews and Christians in the 4rd century (200 years before Islam) called GOD Almighty as "Allah".  The Hebrew speaking ones of course called Him "Yahweh" or "Jehovah", which means "The LORD" or "GOD".  "Yahweh" is a Hebrew-language word.   "Allah" is both Arabic and Aramaic.

Most Recent Archological Discoveries:

Recently Father Pecerillo, a famous Franciscan Archeologist, found more than twenty churches in Madaba at the south of Jordan. From the Forth Century we found houses in Syria, Lebanon, Iraq and Palestine with this inscription in Arabic :"Bismi Allah al-Rahman al-Raheem" which shows that even people before Islam used this Holy name, "Allah", for GOD Almighty, which proves that the name of GOD Almighty in the Noble Quran, "Allah", is the correct one.  This also proves to us that the Bible is not all found.  There are still missing pieces in it that disprove trinity.

Further discoveries from an Arabic Roman Catholic web site at http://www.al-bushra.org/arbhrtg/arbxtn04.htm:

Recently also, Father Pecerillo, a famous Franciscan Archeologist, found from the Forth Century (200 years before Islam) houses in Syria, Lebanon, Iraq and Palestine with this inscription in Arabic :"Bismi Allah al-Rahman al-Raheem" which means in Arabic "In the name of ALLAH, the Most Merciful and the Most Gracious", which again proves that His Holy name existed before Islam and it also proves the True Oneness of Allah Almighty and refutes Trinity.

Here is an analysis to the Arabic words above:

Bismi - Ism = name. Bism = In name, because "Bi" = in.  Bismi = In the name of, because the "i" at the end of the word must be added because of the "Bi" addition.  When we added "Bi" to the word "Ism", then the "i" must also be added to the end of "Bism" if and only if the word "Bism" is followed by another word, which makes it become all one word "Bismi" which means "In the name of".

Allah - Allah is the name of Allah Almighty.  Bismi Allah sounds as "bismillah", but two seperate words.  "Bismi" is one seperate word and "Allah" is another seperate word.

Al-Rahman - Al = the.  Rahman = merciful.   Rahman is derived from Rahmah, which means mercy.  Al-Rahman is one word.   It is not like English two words "the merciful".  No, in Arabic, "the" is combined with the word both are written as one word; "Al-Rahman".

Al-Raheem - Al = the. Raheem = gracious.  Al-Raheem = the gracious.  Again, Al-Raheem is written as one Arabic word, and not two.

"Bismi Allah Al-Rahman Al-Raheem" = "In the name of Allah the Most Merciful and the Most Gracious".

Here is how the four Arabic words "Bismi Allah Al-Rahman Al-Raheem" written in Arabic:

falah wrote on May 23^rd, 2012 at 1:07pm:




No, Abraham worshipped the God of creation,     and NOT Allah.

According to ISLAM, Abraham was a moslem.

But then, according to ISLAM, King David, King Solomon, and even Jesus were moslems.



According to the Koran, the Kaaba [in Mecca] was built by Abraham and his son Ishmael.

Google;
abraham kaaba

But there is no record in the OT bible, that Abraham visited Mecca.




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THE TRUTH IS THAT;
Moslems have embraced a new and 'strange' narrative, contained within their own 'religious' texts [Koran & Hadith].

The fact is that the narrative contained in [u]the ISLAMIC foundation texts, the Koran & Hadith, has absolutely no connection, to[/u] the narrative recorded within the Jewish and Christian scriptures.



In order to subvert the [spiritual] authority of Christianity, moslems will make the claim to Christians, that Jesus was a prophet of ISLAM.

BUT, ISLAMIC texts reveal a totally unkown 'Jesus', a Jesus who would be unrecognisable to Christians.

e.g.
IF YOU BELIEVE ISLAM THAT JESUS IS A PROPHET OF ISLAM, YOU MUST ALSO ACCEPT THAT....

Jesus did NOT die, [The NT records that Jesus died]
Jesus was NOT crucified, [The NT records that Jesus was crucified] [according to ISLAM, another person was crucified, in Jesus place]
Jesus was NOT resurrected by Allah, [The NT records that Jesus was resurrected by God]
Jesus is NOT a Jewish messiah, [The NT records that Jesus claimed to be the of messiah of his people, John 8:24]
Jesus is NOT the 'first-born' Son of God, [The NT records that Jesus claimed that, God was his father, John 8:54]
Jesus was whisked away to heaven [without dying] by Allah [ISLAMIC doctrine teaches, that the moslem Jesus will return to Earth at the 'end-time', TO KILL ALL CHRISTIANS, FOR NOT BEING MOSLEMS]
Jesus, on his return [at the 'end-time'] is a subordinate to al-Mahdi [the ISLAMIC 'end-time' messiah],
Jesus will serve ISLAM by being a destroyer of the 'polytheistic' Christian church at the 'end-time', i.e. at the 'end-time' return he is an 'enforcer' of ISLAMIC faith [a JIHADIST!!],
Jesus is a JIHADI WARRIOR, who at his return, will kill all Christians who still reject Allah / ISLAM.



n.b.
The moslem 'Jesus', presented by ISLAM, is not the New Testament Jesus.
The moslem 'Jesus', presented by ISLAM, is not the redeemer, Jesus.
The moslem 'Jesus', presented by ISLAM, IS A FAKE JESUS.

n.b.
This new narrative about Jesus is designed to 'draw in' weak Christians, into ISLAM's authority, and influence.



The Koran states,
Jesus did not die,
Jesus was not crucified,
SIGHTED IN THE KORAN...
Koran 004.157
v. 157 - 159

The Koran declares that Jesus was not God's son, and that Jesus is not divine, and the Koran states that Allah curses Christians;
SIGHTED IN THE KORAN...
Koran 006.101
Koran 009.030
Koran 037.152





Read some of these sources, explaining what ISLAM really teaches [to moslems] about Jesus....

"Deceptive God, Incompetent Messiah - What Islam Really Teaches About Allah and Jesus"
http://www.answering-islam.org/Authors/Wood/deceptive_god.htm

Google;
jesus Qur'an is the Messiah

Google;
jesus koran prophet of islam


Why are moslems doing this ???

Q.
Why are moslems trying to convince Christians that Jesus, was a prophet of ISLAM ???

A.
Moslems intend to destroy all religious authority [external to ISLAM], and, to destroy all faith in God.
And moslems are trying to destroy the faith of weak and gullible Christians.



If you are a Christian and you want to bolster your faith, in Jesus, read your Bible.



ISLAM is evil, and ISLAM is not of God.



ISLAM is a lie, totally.



Revelation 12:9
And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

Ok so the title asks the beliefs of me I am happy to say what is my beliefs.

I have come to Australia this year and I stay as student til jan 2013.
Then I return to Tel Aviv.
Now what do I believe?
I am secular Jewish. This for me means I class myself as Jew and observe main traditions but do not always every week be at temple etc.
I believe in the book and commands of God. I am sorry some here may not like but I do believe Jews are the chosen people of God. This does not mean I don't like other people but that Jews are chosen by God.

In my regards of homeland.
Now I would like all to live in peace.
I believe in a strong Israel always able to defend herself from attacks by multiple Arabs countries.
But too I believe Palestinians can exist as neighbours to us.
But they must stop rocket attacks from Hamas.

The settlements in west bank must stay. I know these places I have patrolled them in national service it is impossible to remove them and not have security problems.

Palestinians must remove support for Hamas too.
They have blood on their hands. Hamas is a problem for me.

Now like I say. For me peace or war is in the hands of the Palestinians.
If they want peace, they can have it. We have given them Gaza and West Bank but attacks must stop.

They want peace they can have peace.
If they want war then they must understand who they choose to fight. We can tear down every house, every building, we can reduce their homes to nothing. We can turn their sky red and we can bring them a lesson they will never forget!

It is their choice what they want.