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Chosen for what?

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Avram Horowitz wrote on May 24^th, 2012 at 6:38am:


Jews must remove support for Israel. They have blood on their hands.

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Avram Horowitz wrote on May 24^th, 2012 at 10:20am:


You are bragging about it? WTF!

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Avram Horowitz wrote on May 24^th, 2012 at 12:00pm:




Avram,

What do you think would happen, if Israel will eventually annex [i.e. own] Samaria and Judea, and Gazza [and expel all moslems in those regions to Jordan and Egypt] ???

Do you think that this could ever happen ?

Or is this solution politically unacceptable, within Israel at the moment ?




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Personally, i don't believe that the Jewish people will ever be accepted by moslems of the region, or that there can ever be peace with moslems in Israel  [i.e. because moslems will never honour a peace with Israel].

The best option for Israel, imo, is for Israel to require all moslem residents >> to swear allegiance to Israel <<.

Then, those moslems >> who refuse to swear allegiance to Israel << must be expelled from Samaria and Judea, and Gazza,   .....to Jordan and Egypt.

Can Israel ever have a solution like this ???

Or is the 'politics' of such a solution too hard, for many Israelis ?

falah wrote on May 24^th, 2012 at 4:40pm:





Jeremiah 50:5
They shall ask the way to Zion with their faces thitherward, saying, Come, and let us join ourselves to the LORD in a perpetual covenant that shall not be forgotten.
6  My people hath been lost sheep: their shepherds have caused them to go astray, they have turned them away on the mountains: they have gone from mountain to hill, they have forgotten their restingplace.
7  All that found them have devoured them: and their adversaries said, We offend not, because they have sinned against the LORD, the habitation of justice, even the LORD, the hope of their fathers.
8  Remove out of the midst of Babylon, and go forth out of the land of the Chaldeans, and be as the he goats before the flocks.


Psalms 132:13
For the LORD hath chosen Zion; he hath desired it for his habitation.


Isaiah 1:27
Zion shall be redeemed with judgment, and her converts with righteousness.
28  And the destruction of the transgressors and of the sinners shall be together, and they that forsake the LORD shall be consumed.


Isaiah 59:20
And the Redeemer shall come to Zion, and unto them that turn from transgression in Jacob, saith the LORD.



The state of Israel, 1948....

Isaiah 66:5
Hear the word of the LORD, ye that tremble at his word; Your brethren that hated you, that cast you out for my name's sake, said, Let the LORD be glorified: but he shall appear to your joy, and they shall be ashamed.
6  A voice of noise from the city, a voice from the temple, a voice of the LORD that rendereth recompence to his enemies.
7  Before she travailed, she brought forth; before her pain came, she was delivered of a man child.
8  Who hath heard such a thing? who hath seen such things? Shall the earth be made to bring forth in one day? or shall a nation be born at once? for as soon as Zion travailed, she brought forth her children.
9  Shall I bring to the birth, and not cause to bring forth? saith the LORD: shall I cause to bring forth, and shut the womb? saith thy God.
10  Rejoice ye with Jerusalem, and be glad with her, all ye that love her: rejoice for joy with her, all ye that mourn for her:
11  That ye may suck, and be satisfied with the breasts of her consolations; that ye may milk out, and be delighted with the abundance of her glory.
12  For thus saith the LORD, Behold, I will extend peace to her like a river, and the glory of the Gentiles like a flowing stream: then shall ye suck, ye shall be borne upon her sides, and be dandled upon her knees.
13  As one whom his mother comforteth, so will I comfort you; and ye shall be comforted in Jerusalem.
14  And when ye see this, your heart shall rejoice, and your bones shall flourish like an herb: and the hand of the LORD shall be known toward his servants, and his indignation toward his enemies.

Israel's impending destruction foretold:

chapter 16 of the Book of Jeremiah

10 And it shall come to pass, when thou shalt shew this people all these words, and they shall say unto thee, Wherefore hath the LORD pronounced all this great evil against us? or what [is] our iniquity? or what [is] our sin that wehave committed against the LORD our God?

11Then shalt thou say unto them, Because your fathers have forsaken me,saith the LORD, and have walked after other gods, and have served them, andhave worshipped them, and have forsaken me, and have not kept my law;

12And ye have done worse than your fathers; for, behold, ye walk everyone after the imagination of his evil heart, that they may not hearken unto me:

13 Therefore will I cast you out of this land into a land that ye know not,[neither] ye nor your fathers; and there shall ye serve other gods day and night;where I will not shew you favour.

14 Therefore, behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that it shall no morebe said, The LORD liveth, that brought up the children of Israel out of the landof Egypt;

15 But, The LORD liveth, that brought up the children of Israel from the land of the north, and from all the lands whither he had driven them: and I will bring them again into their land that I gave unto their fathers.

16 Behold, I will send for many fishers, saith the LORD, and they shall fish them; and after will I send for many hunters, and they shall hunt them fromevery mountain, and from every hill, and out of the holes of the rocks.

17 For mine eyes [are] upon all their ways: they are not hid from my face, neither is their iniquity hid from mine eyes.

18And first I will recompense their iniquity and their sin double; because they have defiled my land, they have filled mine inheritance with the carcasses of their detestable and abominable things.”



Deuteronomy 28:25

The LORD will cause you to be defeated before your enemies. You will come at them from one direction but flee from them in seven, and you will become a thing of horror to all the kingdoms on earth.


Deuteronomy 28:45

All these curses will come upon you. They will pursue you and overtake you until you are destroyed, because you did not obey the LORD your God and observe the commands and decrees he gave you...Because you did not serve the LORD your God joyfully and gladly in the time of prosperity







Jeremiah 31:36


If those ordinances depart from before me, saith the LORD, then the seed of Israel also shall cease from being a nation before me for ever.



Hosea 13:9

"You are destroyed, O Israel, because you are against me, against your helper.


Here is Deuteronomy 29:23:

Your children who follow you in later generations and foreigners who come from distant lands will see the calamities that have fallen on the land and the diseases with which the LORD has afflicted it.

Micah 3:11-12:

11 Her leaders judge for a bribe, her priests teach for a price, and her prophets tell fortunes for money. Yet they lean upon the LORD and say, "Is not the LORD among us? No disaster will come upon us."

12 Therefore because of you, Zion will be plowed like a field, Jerusalem will become a heap of rubble, the temple hill a mound overgrown with thickets.


Here is 1 Thessalonians 5:1-9:

1 Now, brothers, about times and dates we do not need to write to you,

2 for you know very well that the day of the Lord will come like a thief in the night.

3 While people are saying, "Peace and safety," destruction will come on them suddenly, as labor pains on a pregnant woman, and they will not escape.
Leviticus 26:33


33 I will scatter you among the nations and will draw out my sword and pursue you. Your land will be laid waste, and your cities will lie in ruins.

Yadda wrote on May 24^th, 2012 at 4:20pm:


I expect the Israelis will keep reclaiming land bit by bit, whatever is used by Palestinians to launch rockets from. Once into neighbouring countries it will be completely different, because those countries will not allow their citizens to launch rockets into Israel.

falah wrote on May 24^th, 2012 at 7:12pm: