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Avram Horowitz
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Re: Islam is a barrier to peace
Reply #60 - May 23rd, 2012 at 1:56pm
 
I have served 3 years in the IDF.
I have been shot at, had people threat to cut my throat had everyday faced death.

You have no idea at all.
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Reply #61 - May 23rd, 2012 at 1:57pm
 
Avram Horowitz wrote on May 23rd, 2012 at 1:56pm:
I have served 3 years in the IDF.
I have been shot at, had people threat to cut my throat had everyday faced death.

You have no idea at all.

Fairly sure anyone could do that with a semi auto in their hands
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Reply #62 - May 23rd, 2012 at 1:58pm
 
bobbythefap1 wrote on May 23rd, 2012 at 1:54pm:
Avram Horowitz wrote on May 23rd, 2012 at 1:48pm:
bobbythefap1 wrote on May 23rd, 2012 at 1:44pm:
Avram Horowitz wrote on May 23rd, 2012 at 1:40pm:
bobbythefap1 wrote on May 23rd, 2012 at 1:17pm:
Avram Horowitz wrote on May 23rd, 2012 at 1:11pm:
Ban PP. He is anti-Semitic scum.

gas me


Don't come to Israel ever. Those comments you make.
We will make you eat every word if you repeat them.

Why would I want to go to scumrael?
Much easier to silence the truth then to respond to it legitimately right


My friend you are frightened to death of us.

Irrational religious nutjobs are quite a confronting thing but I would have no issue putting you on your ass



That might carry some weight when you're postpubescent.
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Re: Islam is a barrier to peace
Reply #63 - May 23rd, 2012 at 2:01pm
 
I know you would have wet pants if you spend just one day with us on the west bank.
In cast lead we go down closed off small streets where buildings too dense for air support.
We ate dropped by helicopter in middle of deserted block. You think a semi-auto make it all easy.

You live in this country where you have no war, no fear.
But do not tell me how easy it is in the army because you do not know anything.

Aussie people who may know is Vietnam vets.
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Reply #64 - May 23rd, 2012 at 2:02pm
 
Avram Horowitz wrote on May 23rd, 2012 at 2:01pm:
I know you would have wet pants if you spend just one day with us on the west bank.
In cast lead we go down closed off small streets where buildings too dense for air support.
We ate dropped by helicopter in middle of deserted block. You think a semi-auto make it all easy.

You live in this country where you have no war, no fear.
But do not tell me how easy it is in the army because you do not know anything.

Aussie people who may know is Vietnam vets.

You wouldn't be alive to see it cause Id friendly fire
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Reply #65 - May 23rd, 2012 at 2:03pm
 
Annie Anthrax wrote on May 23rd, 2012 at 1:58pm:
bobbythefap1 wrote on May 23rd, 2012 at 1:54pm:
Avram Horowitz wrote on May 23rd, 2012 at 1:48pm:
bobbythefap1 wrote on May 23rd, 2012 at 1:44pm:
Avram Horowitz wrote on May 23rd, 2012 at 1:40pm:
bobbythefap1 wrote on May 23rd, 2012 at 1:17pm:
Avram Horowitz wrote on May 23rd, 2012 at 1:11pm:
Ban PP. He is anti-Semitic scum.

gas me


Don't come to Israel ever. Those comments you make.
We will make you eat every word if you repeat them.

Why would I want to go to scumrael?
Much easier to silence the truth then to respond to it legitimately right


My friend you are frightened to death of us.

Irrational religious nutjobs are quite a confronting thing but I would have no issue putting you on your ass



That might carry some weight when you're postpubescent.

Yes cause the real baby is not the one who attacks unarmed civilians with a semi auto rifle in your hands
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Reply #66 - May 23rd, 2012 at 2:08pm
 
Nope. I just thought better of you.
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Reply #67 - May 23rd, 2012 at 2:35pm
 
Avram Horowitz wrote on May 23rd, 2012 at 2:01pm:
I know you would have wet pants if you spend just one day with us on the west bank.
In cast lead we go down closed off small streets where buildings too dense for air support.
We ate dropped by helicopter in middle of deserted block. You think a semi-auto make it all easy.

You live in this country where you have no war, no fear.
But do not tell me how easy it is in the army because you do not know anything.

Aussie people who may know is Vietnam vets.


I know what war is like. But this isnt about war. Its about israel oppressing palestinians and killing them willy nilly. Bullying with the support of the yanks. Bulldozing their homes and crops. Destroying their wells. etc etc etc. If it was a war then it would be more equal.

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Reply #68 - May 23rd, 2012 at 4:27pm
 
Avram Horowitz wrote on May 23rd, 2012 at 2:01pm:
You live in this country where you have no war, no fear.
But do not tell me how easy it is in the army because you do not know anything.

Aussie people who may know is Vietnam vets.


You got it in one, old son.
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Reply #69 - May 23rd, 2012 at 5:29pm
 
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Reply #70 - May 23rd, 2012 at 6:04pm
 
The only reason the Israelis can get away with depicting it as a war is because the Palestinians insist on making it a war. Falah even backed me up on this and argued in favour of not surrendering. The Palestinians and many other countries launched a full scale military invasion of Israel decades ago. They lost, but as Falah suggested they did not surrender. If someone attacks you, loses, but refuses to surrender and keeps firing rockets, blowing up busses etc, then they leave you with no choice but to respond with your military.
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Reply #71 - May 23rd, 2012 at 6:37pm
 
Annie:

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Do you believe it was an accident?


I don't really care. What matters is that the Palestinian sympathisers believe she died that way, but the Muslims among them are incapable of even seeing how it is different.

I do think it is a shame there is no evidence. It makes it easier for people like Falah to put the outcry in the west down to racism.


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falah wrote on May 23rd, 2012 at 12:32pm:
freediver wrote on May 22nd, 2012 at 6:21pm:
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You mean surrender. Muslims don't surrender.


Exactly. Thanks for proving my point Falah. Everyone else surrenders when they lose. Why are Muslims so keen to die?


Do they? Did the Australian Army  surrender to the Japanese when the japanese were conquering Papua new Guinea?

You are full of lies Freeliar. You present only a distorted view of reality.


Earth to Falah - we won that war. Is that really how you see the Palestinian conflict?

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If you don't surrender, you haven't lost.


No Falah. You have still lost. Surrendering is up to you, but you cannot deny the reality of the situation.

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Have you tried toilet-training a kid?


Good point Falah. Perhaps that is how I should approach you.

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It is one thing to sign a peace treaty, another thing to surrender.


Thanks for being so honest Falah. The Israelis are merely acknowledging your honesty in refusing to sign the peace treaties, as it would be pretty pointless to sign one with people who see no contradiction between a peace treaty and believing you are still at war and going to win.

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Take the Aboriginal example in Australia. The Aborigines who surrenderd to the British Christians were virtually wiped out and dispossessed. Those who put up the fiercest resistance, like the Yolngu Arnhem Landers, today remain on their land.


Abu you are having serious problems with reality. The only reason those aborigines could do that is because the vast majority of settlers went south where European farming methods would work. Even today there are very few white people in the far north. Darwin's population is only 130 thousand. Where settlers and aborigines interacted significantly, any tribes that were violent towards the settlers were slaughtered. The Palestinians have it easy by comparison. If the old standards applied they would be slaughtered. If Muslim standards applied they would be slaughtered.

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History shows us that many wars have looked lost before they swung the other way. The USSR looked lost in 1941 when the Nazis were on the outskirts of Moscow. Just over three years later Soviet troops had captured Berlin


Is this how you see the Palestinian conflict?

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Since 2000 muslims have managed to force Israel to withdraw from Gaza and southern Lebanon. Full victory is just around the corner by the Grace of God Almighty.


You are seriously deluded. No wonder the rest of the world has no interest in helping the Palestinians. The only thing 'forcing' the Israelis is internal politics. The only thing keeping alive the Palestinians who think they will defeat Israel is the generosity of the Israelis.
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Reply #72 - May 23rd, 2012 at 6:47pm
 
Where exactly should the palestinians go?

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Reply #73 - May 23rd, 2012 at 6:54pm
 
They don't need to go anywhere. Though if I was there on either side I would try to get anywhere else.

They just have to stop firing rockets and deluding themselves that they are about to have a great military victory over Israel. They have to want peace more than victory or death (though it is obviously their choice). They are literally throwing rocks at tanks and imagining themselves warriors.
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Reply #74 - May 23rd, 2012 at 6:57pm
 
freediver wrote on May 23rd, 2012 at 6:54pm:
They don't need to go anywhere. Though if I was there on either side I would try to get anywhere else.

They just have to stop firing rockets and deluding themselves that they are about to have a great military victory over Israel. They have to want peace more than victory or death (though it is obviously their choice). They are literally throwing rocks at tanks and imagining themselves warriors.


Everytime they stop (when there are ceasefires) israel starts bulldozing again.

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