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May 22nd, 2012 at 5:41pm
 

Genetic sexual attraction (GSA) is a term that describes the phenomenon of sexual attraction between close relatives, such as siblings, first and second cousins or a parent and offspring, who first meet as adults.


http://www.hlntv.com/video/2012/05/10/women-reunite-fathers-and-become-sexually-...

Unorthodox, yet valid sexual preference, or just plain sickos?
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Reply #1 - May 22nd, 2012 at 5:48pm
 
Just plain sickos.
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Reply #2 - May 22nd, 2012 at 5:51pm
 
I have read about this before. You cant call them sickos if they dont know they are related. If they do know but only just found out (this actually happens now and then) then they misinterpret the familiarity i guess.

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Reply #3 - May 22nd, 2012 at 5:55pm
 
Frances wrote on May 22nd, 2012 at 5:48pm:
Just plain sickos.


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You're 40, happily married - and then you meet your long-lost brother and fall passionately in love. This isn't fiction; in the age of the sperm donor, it's a growing reality: 50% of reunions between siblings, or parents and offspring, separated at birth result in obsessive emotions. Last month, a former police officer was convicted of incest with his half-sister - but should we criminalise a bond hardwired into our psychology? Alix Kirsta talks to those who have suffered the torment of 'genetic sexual attraction'


http://www.guardian.co.uk/theguardian/2003/may/17/weekend7.weekend2

Seems like a very high incidence of sickos.  Read their first hand account before judging.
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Reply #4 - May 22nd, 2012 at 6:05pm
 
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The Westermark Effect is a term used to describe the phenomenon of reverse sexual imprinting.


This term was coined by a Finnish anthropologist named Edvard Westermark to explain the hypothetical psychological effect through which people who live in close domestic proximity during the first few years of their lives become desensitized to later sexual attraction. In simple terms, it is a process by which children and families become averse to the idea of sexual relationships within the nuclear family unit. Scientists who've studied the Westermark Effect note that the years between birth and age six, are the most critical.


Most of us just take for granted the idea that we do not marry or engage sexually with our brothers/sisters and parents. Incest in it's traditional form usually evokes disgust and shock, as most people intrinsically hold onto the value that sexual relationships belong outside of the family unit. It usually takes something remarkably traumatic to allow us to focus on why we act the way we do. Why do we all cringe at the idea of a sexual encounter with a family member? Most people would say it's not normal, but wouldn't necessarily be able to explain why.


The Westermark Effect explains in part that there is something to the day in and day out familiarity that helps to create an aversion to sex with family members. Some people suggest that there is an olfactory component- nature's way of suppressing inbreeding. But even when families are constructed without the genetic similarity (in the case of parents adopting a child), this Westermark Effect develops between the genetically unrelated parents and the child. The mechanisms that allow for healthy development of children in a family, the parent's ability to turn "off" any sort of sexual desire for a child, and the preservation of the family unit- are complex. It must be a combination of genetics, social and psychological processes, time, and moral health. When one or more of these factors are not present, one may experience sexual abuse and/or traditional incest.


When a reunion occurs between a parent and child or siblings after many years of separation, none of the safeguards normally in place to grow a healthy and vibrant bond, are there. The time for imprinting is gone. In fact, the lost time can fuel an almost obsessive "mission" to make up what's been lost. Both people are fully matured sexual adults. The "walls" of the original family system are no more, and yet the individuals still feel the biological and psychological pull to bond as they originally should have. There may or may not be moral health which is another often overlooked component. People who are morally healthy can resist urges more readily than those who are not trained in the lost art of self-control. When the two individuals are genetically similar, the attraction can be overwhelming.


I liken GSA to having all the chemicals of a nuclear bomb in your hand with no proper container to hold it all. Those chemicals, when contained in their proper home- become a powerful force. When families healthily bond as intended, we witness lifelong, fierce, strong, powerful bonds that last for a lifetime and beyond. Those chemicals in their proper home make a family unbreakable against all sorts of tragedies and traumas. During GSA, there are all the chemicals and no container. The power without the restraint of boundaries can poison entire family systems as the two people struggle to resist the pull of an attraction.


Those of us who've survived GSA are on a mission to find a container. We cannot recreate the environment of the original container- it's just not possible. But we know that there is a way to "contain" those emotions and feelings in such a way that the individuals can form a long lasting bond that does not destroy families in the process.


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Reply #5 - May 22nd, 2012 at 6:12pm
 
The question then is why are these people automatically stigmatized as "sickos" when they are simply acting in accordance with their hard-wired sexual orientation?

Helloooo this is the 21st century.  I thought we had moved on from the dark ages where people were punished for their sexual orientation?
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Reply #6 - May 22nd, 2012 at 6:17pm
 
I was separated from my biological parents at birth and met my father and brothers in my early 20s.

It was a surreal experience, but there was never anything inappropriate.

A friend of mine used to work with a girl who was in a sexual relationship with her brother.
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Reply #7 - May 22nd, 2012 at 6:18pm
 
Annie Anthrax wrote on May 22nd, 2012 at 6:17pm:
I was separated from my biological parents at birth and met my father and brothers in my early 20s.

I



Is that right?  Did you expericne what they call "obsessive emotions"?  Not necessarily in a sexual way.
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Reply #8 - May 22nd, 2012 at 6:19pm
 
In modern families children tend to in a sense practice these things on their parents, an obvious example would be a young girl having a 'crush' on her dad.
Perhaps if a child was unable to do this during development it could inhibit such emotions/feelings.
But that is not genetic.
Genetically we are hardwired to find a mate and continue our species.
In a primitive sense apes will seek out mates of different bloodline when possible.
Today is the same and there is nothing really that could hardwire you to be attracted to family, only environmental factors can draw you to such a action.
Put simply we are hardwired to mate with people of different bloodlines, disruption of that process would be environmental
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Reply #9 - May 22nd, 2012 at 6:20pm
 
Sorry, I accidentally posted before I'd finished. I edited.

No, nothing obsessive at all.
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Reply #10 - May 22nd, 2012 at 6:22pm
 
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The question then is why are these people automatically stigmatized as "sickos" when they are simply acting in accordance with their hard-wired sexual orientation?

Helloooo this is the 21st century.  I thought we had moved on from the dark ages where people were punished for their sexual orientation?


There is actually a reason incest is illegal is because of what happens with the offspring. IMO (this is prolly not socially acceptable to say) but nowadays if theres no pregnancies involved what is the problem?

It is a disgusting thought to me though.

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Reply #11 - May 22nd, 2012 at 6:23pm
 
bobbythefap1 wrote on May 22nd, 2012 at 6:19pm:
In modern families children tend to in a sense practice these things on their parents, an obvious example would be a young girl having a 'crush' on her dad.
Perhaps if a child was unable to do this during development it could inhibit such emotions/feelings.
But that is not genetic.
Genetically we are hardwired to find a mate and continue our species.
In a primitive sense apes will seek out mates of different bloodline when possible.
Today is the same and there is nothing really that could hardwire you to be attracted to family, only environmental factors can draw you to such a action.
Put simply we are hardwired to mate with people of different bloodlines, disruption of that process would be environmental


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Several factors may contribute to GSA. People commonly rank faces similar to their own as more attractive, trustworthy, etc. than average. [4] Heredity produces substantial physical similarity between close relatives. However, Bereczkei (2004) attributes this in part to childhood imprinting on the opposite-sex parent. Shared interests and personality traits are commonly considered desirable in a mate. The heritability of these qualities is a matter of great debate; to whatever extent they are heritable, they will tend to cluster in close relatives. In cases of parent-child attraction, the parent may recognize traits of their own in the child and ultimately end up mating with them. Such reunions typically produce complex emotions in all involved.[5]


yes, I know take wiki with a grain of salt, but again - it makes sense.
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Reply #12 - May 22nd, 2012 at 6:24pm
 
PP, not many girls have crushes on their fathers. Perhaps they choose partners who remind them of their dads.


Like Plath's poem 'Daddy'

I made a model of you,
A man in black with a Meinkampf look

And a love of the rack and the screw.
And I said I do, I do.
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Reply #13 - May 22nd, 2012 at 6:27pm
 
Yeah. Actually PP could be right though. How could it be genetic? It cant because if it was the human race wouldn't have ever got anywhere. We would all be inbred americans.

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Reply #14 - May 22nd, 2012 at 7:27pm
 
Psalm 1

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1 Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly, nor standeth in the way of sinners, nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful.

2 But his delight is in the law of the Lord; and in his law doth he meditate day and night.

3 And he shall be like a tree planted by the rivers of water, that bringeth forth his fruit in his season; his leaf also shall not wither; and whatsoever he doeth shall prosper.

4 The ungodly are not so: but are like the chaff which the wind driveth away.

5 Therefore the ungodly shall not stand in the judgment, nor sinners in the congregation of the righteous.

6 For the Lord knoweth the way of the righteous: but the way of the ungodly shall perish.
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