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Re: genetic sexual attraction
Reply #45 - May 3^rd, 2013 at 2:57pm

KJT1981 wrote on May 3^rd, 2013 at 2:47pm:

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There is actually a reason incest is illegal is because of what happens with the offspring. IMO (this is prolly not socially acceptable to say) but nowadays if theres no pregnancies involved what is the problem?

Are you the result of an incestuous relationship Miss Borg? It would explain a lot.

He is probably the son of his sister who later on became his wife.

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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 38811 Gender:	Re: genetic sexual attraction Reply #46 - May 3^rd, 2013 at 3:30pm Not too sure I want that type of post taking off. So, please 'can' that sort of crap. Aussie/Mod.
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Re: genetic sexual attraction
Reply #47 - May 3^rd, 2013 at 4:08pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 22^nd, 2012 at 6:22pm:

... wrote on May 22^nd, 2012 at 6:12pm:

The question then is why are these people automatically stigmatized as "sickos" when they are simply acting in accordance with their hard-wired sexual orientation?

Helloooo this is the 21st century. I thought we had moved on from the dark ages where people were punished for their sexual orientation?

There is actually a reason incest is illegal is because of what happens with the offspring. IMO (this is prolly not socially acceptable to say) but nowadays if theres no pregnancies involved what is the problem?

It is a disgusting thought to me though.

SOB

well her majesty queen of england

married her cousin so whatever trevor

further

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queen_Victoria

Queen Victoria (Alexandrina Victoria; 24 May 1819 – 22 January 1901) was the monarch of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland from 20 June 1837 until her death. From 1 May 1876, she used the additional title of Empress of India.

Victoria was the daughter of Prince Edward, Duke of Kent and Strathearn, the fourth son of King George III. Both the Duke of Kent and King George III died in 1820, and Victoria was raised under close supervision by her German-born mother Princess Victoria of Saxe-Coburg-Saalfeld. She inherited the throne at the age of 18, after her father's three elder brothers had all died leaving no legitimate, surviving children.

The United Kingdom was already an established constitutional monarchy, in which the Sovereign held relatively little direct political power.

Privately, Victoria attempted to influence government policy and ministerial appointments. Publicly, she became a national icon, and was identified with strict standards of personal morality.

Victoria married her first cousin, Prince Albert of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha, in 1840.

Their nine children married into royal and noble families across the continent, tying them together and earning her the nickname "the grandmother of Europe". After Albert's death in 1861, Victoria plunged into deep mourning and avoided public appearances. As a result of her seclusion, republicanism temporarily gained strength, but in the latter half of her reign, her popularity recovered. Her Golden and Diamond Jubilees were times of public celebration.

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it_is_the_light Gold Member Offline Christ Light Posts: 41434 The Pyramid of LIGHT Gender:	Re: genetic sexual attraction Reply #48 - May 3^rd, 2013 at 4:14pm Publicly, she became a national icon, and was identified with strict standards of personal morality. ___________ personal morals circa dating and having sex with the first cousin.... so be it i do not judge namaste - : )
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Re: genetic sexual attraction
Reply #49 - May 3^rd, 2013 at 4:27pm

Quantum wrote on May 3^rd, 2013 at 2:57pm:

KJT1981 wrote on May 3^rd, 2013 at 2:47pm:

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There is actually a reason incest is illegal is because of what happens with the offspring. IMO (this is prolly not socially acceptable to say) but nowadays if theres no pregnancies involved what is the problem?

Are you the result of an incestuous relationship Miss Borg? It would explain a lot.

He is probably the son of his sister who later on became his wife.

Awww the poor trollies dont want to discuss the topic . . ..

You disagree that theres a reason its illegal?

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Re: genetic sexual attraction
Reply #50 - May 4^th, 2013 at 3:54am

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 3^rd, 2013 at 4:27pm:

Quantum wrote on May 3^rd, 2013 at 2:57pm:

KJT1981 wrote on May 3^rd, 2013 at 2:47pm:

Quote:

There is actually a reason incest is illegal is because of what happens with the offspring. IMO (this is prolly not socially acceptable to say) but nowadays if theres no pregnancies involved what is the problem?

Are you the result of an incestuous relationship Miss Borg? It would explain a lot.

He is probably the son of his sister who later on became his wife.

Awww the poor trollies dont want to discuss the topic . . ..

You disagree that theres a reason its illegal?

SOB

spot, get out of this thread and back to spot of troll. not ONE post there in 24 hours. what have you been doing? chasing mice
licking your fur.

try not to be so easily distracted,

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Re: genetic sexual attraction
Reply #51 - May 4^th, 2013 at 4:26am

aquascoot wrote on May 4^th, 2013 at 3:54am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 3^rd, 2013 at 4:27pm:

Quantum wrote on May 3^rd, 2013 at 2:57pm:

KJT1981 wrote on May 3^rd, 2013 at 2:47pm:

Quote:

There is actually a reason incest is illegal is because of what happens with the offspring. IMO (this is prolly not socially acceptable to say) but nowadays if theres no pregnancies involved what is the problem?

Are you the result of an incestuous relationship Miss Borg? It would explain a lot.

He is probably the son of his sister who later on became his wife.

Awww the poor trollies dont want to discuss the topic . . ..

You disagree that theres a reason its illegal?

SOB

spot, get out of this thread and back to spot of troll. not ONE post there in 24 hours. what have you been doing? chasing mice
licking your fur.

try not to be so easily distracted,

Obviously dont like the topic. Why dont you go elsewhere if you dont like it?

SOB

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Sir Spot of Borg Gold Member Offline WE ARE BORG Posts: 26512 Australia	Re: genetic sexual attraction Reply #52 - May 4^th, 2013 at 4:28am This thread was prolly started to use as a weapon in the gay marriage debate but it actually has nothing to do with gay marriage. Its a separate thing. Nobody is calling for it either so its not even a slippery slope. SOB
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aquascoot Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 34915 Gender:	Re: genetic sexual attraction Reply #53 - May 4^th, 2013 at 6:08am well youre prolly not going to get to your double century in spot of troll if you dont get a bit more aggressive. i would try a few cover drives and quick singles prolly
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Re: genetic sexual attraction
Reply #54 - May 4^th, 2013 at 9:38am

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 22^nd, 2012 at 6:22pm:

... wrote on May 22^nd, 2012 at 6:12pm:

The question then is why are these people automatically stigmatized as "sickos" when they are simply acting in accordance with their hard-wired sexual orientation?

Helloooo this is the 21st century. I thought we had moved on from the dark ages where people were punished for their sexual orientation?

There is actually a reason incest is illegal is because of what happens with the offspring. IMO (this is prolly not socially acceptable to say) but nowadays if theres no pregnancies involved what is the problem?

It is a disgusting thought to me though.

SOB

It is also usually an abusive relationship, at least in the traditional context. We consider any sexual relationship to be inappropriate when there is an element of authority involved - eg teacher/student (regardless of the ages involved), boss/employee etc. You should seek help from the organisations mentioned in the OP.

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Force them to abort if they are stupid and get preggers.

That is hardly a solution.

These days, with family units getting smaller or more distant - ie many people not living anywhere near their cousins, or even their biological parents or half siblings, you would expect this to become more common.

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People who can't distinguish between etymology and entomology bug me in ways I cannot put into words.

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Re: genetic sexual attraction
Reply #55 - May 5^th, 2013 at 5:27am

freediver wrote on May 4^th, 2013 at 9:38am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 22^nd, 2012 at 6:22pm:

... wrote on May 22^nd, 2012 at 6:12pm:

The question then is why are these people automatically stigmatized as "sickos" when they are simply acting in accordance with their hard-wired sexual orientation?

Helloooo this is the 21st century. I thought we had moved on from the dark ages where people were punished for their sexual orientation?

There is actually a reason incest is illegal is because of what happens with the offspring. IMO (this is prolly not socially acceptable to say) but nowadays if theres no pregnancies involved what is the problem?

It is a disgusting thought to me though.

SOB

It is also usually an abusive relationship, at least in the traditional context. We consider any sexual relationship to be inappropriate when there is an element of authority involved - eg teacher/student (regardless of the ages involved), boss/employee etc. You should seek help from the organisations mentioned in the OP.

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Force them to abort if they are stupid and get preggers.

That is hardly a solution.

These days, with family units getting smaller or more distant - ie many people not living anywhere near their cousins, or even their biological parents or half siblings, you would expect this to become more common.

Why should *I* seek help?

SOB

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Re: genetic sexual attraction
Reply #56 - May 6^th, 2013 at 5:11pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 5^th, 2013 at 5:27am:

freediver wrote on May 4^th, 2013 at 9:38am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 22^nd, 2012 at 6:22pm:

... wrote on May 22^nd, 2012 at 6:12pm:

The question then is why are these people automatically stigmatized as "sickos" when they are simply acting in accordance with their hard-wired sexual orientation?

Helloooo this is the 21st century. I thought we had moved on from the dark ages where people were punished for their sexual orientation?

There is actually a reason incest is illegal is because of what happens with the offspring. IMO (this is prolly not socially acceptable to say) but nowadays if theres no pregnancies involved what is the problem?

It is a disgusting thought to me though.

SOB

It is also usually an abusive relationship, at least in the traditional context. We consider any sexual relationship to be inappropriate when there is an element of authority involved - eg teacher/student (regardless of the ages involved), boss/employee etc. You should seek help from the organisations mentioned in the OP.

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Force them to abort if they are stupid and get preggers.

That is hardly a solution.

These days, with family units getting smaller or more distant - ie many people not living anywhere near their cousins, or even their biological parents or half siblings, you would expect this to become more common.

Why should *I* seek help?

SOB

Because you are a certified raving friggen lunatic.

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ian Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 9451	Re: genetic sexual attraction Reply #57 - May 6^th, 2013 at 7:25pm As an example societies in India which allow marriage between close relatives are riddled with genetic deformities and predisposition towards certain illnesses.
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Re: genetic sexual attraction
Reply #58 - May 6^th, 2013 at 10:27pm

It's a pity that most (western) people can't respect their innate feelings these days, even though this is what western democracy initially set out to achieve.

There are many aspects of the ongoing human condition and the interaction with the environment which have genetically been proven to be disadvantageous to the furtherment of societies.

The more we become accustomed to a soft society (that has been built upon hardships), the more we seem to accept aspects that are detrimental to future societies.

How far we go in accepting what is being shoved down our throats, and that which spits in the face of democracy, over the general innate human condition which has naturally risen to the top is yet to be seen.

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Reply #59 - May 7^th, 2013 at 5:40pm

i know peter singer felt that sex between siblings (with contraception) might be the next tabboo to go.

i note a female dolphin trainer was also asked to leave an island resort after developing a mutually satisfying sexual relationship with a male dolphin. this appeared to be consensual. clips on youtube are quite revealing

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