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Reply #150 - May 27th, 2012 at 3:05pm
 
Six months afterward -



The United States used its veto power to put down a Qatari-sponsored draft resolution in the UN Security Council that would have condemned Israel’s military offensive as “disproportionate force” in the Gaza Strip, and would have demanded that Israel cease operations in the area.

United States Ambassador John Bolton said the text was unacceptable, largely because it had been overtaken by events, including the recent capture of two Israeli soldiers by Hizbollah forces.

He said the text was unbalanced and “placed demands on one side of the Middle East conflict but not the other.”  If adopted, it would have exacerbated tensions in the region, while undermining the vision of a two-state solution, as well as the credibility of the Security Council itself.


Ten countries voted for the resolution, four nations — Britain, Peru, Denmark and Slovakia — abstained. The US cast the only “No” vote, subsequently killing the resolution.
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Reply #151 - May 27th, 2012 at 3:08pm
 
Avram you do realise if you were any other nation Israel would have been invaded ages ago don't you?
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Reply #152 - May 27th, 2012 at 3:11pm
 
Resolution - Drafted by Pakistan and Tunisia

Expressing its grave concern at the continued deterioration of the situation on
the ground in the Palestinian territory occupied by Israel since 1967,

Condemning the broad military incursion and attacks by the Israeli occupying
forces in the area of Northern Gaza Strip, including in and around the Jabaliya
refugee camp, resulting in extensive human casualties and destruction and
exacerbating the dire humanitarian situation,

Reiterating its call upon Israel, the occupying Power, to abide scrupulously by
its legal obligations and responsibilities under the Fourth Geneva Convention
relative to the Protection of Civilians in Time of War of 12 August 1949,
Recalling the obligations of the Palestinian Authority and the Government of
Israel under the Road Map,

Condemning all acts of violence, terror, excessive and indiscriminate use of
force, and physical destruction,

Reaffirming its support for the Road Map endorsed in its resolution 1515
(2003),
1. Demands the immediate cessation of all military operations in the area of
Northern Gaza and the withdrawal of the Israeli occupying forces from that area;

2. Reiterates its call for the cessation of violence and for respect of and
adherence to legal obligations, including those under international humanitarian
law;

3. Calls on Israel, the occupying Power, to ensure the unfettered access and
safety of United Nations personnel and all medical and humanitarian aid workers to
provide emergency assistance to the civilian population, and calls for the respect of
the inviolability of the facilities of the United Nations agencies in the field,
including the United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees in the
Near East (UNRWA);


Result Vote -

13 Yes
1 Abstain (Germany)
1 No (United States)

End Conclustion - Not Passed (USA Veto)


It seems that your views on Israel are not shared at the highest level of UN voting.
And in this example, a progressive European power Germany could not support the vote.

In fact Germany has the lowest voting against Israel behind USA. Germany understands the need to be fair on this subject it seems.
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Reply #153 - May 27th, 2012 at 3:12pm
 
Avram don't talk about stuff you clearly do not know about
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Reply #154 - May 27th, 2012 at 3:13pm
 
I see. So the number 1 terrorist state used its veto to protect its buddy over religion. I see why you keep mentioning the yanks now. I agree with PP's hahas.

However its not funny. Sooner or later somebody is going to stop you. Maybe even a yank. Its pretty obvious everyone ELSE knows what you are doing is wrong. I expect the yanks do to but its friggin religion stopping them from condemning you. Scared their god will condemn them.

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Reply #155 - May 27th, 2012 at 3:13pm
 
3 years on the ground in the army and all my life in Tel Aviv?

You? You have never even come to our country.
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Reply #156 - May 27th, 2012 at 3:15pm
 
Avram Horowitz wrote on May 27th, 2012 at 3:13pm:
3 years on the ground in the army and all my life in Tel Aviv?

You? You have never even come to our country.

I'm talking about international politics as you mentioned
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Reply #157 - May 27th, 2012 at 3:16pm
 
bobbythefap1 wrote on May 27th, 2012 at 3:15pm:
Avram Horowitz wrote on May 27th, 2012 at 3:13pm:
3 years on the ground in the army and all my life in Tel Aviv?

You? You have never even come to our country.

I'm talking about international politics as you mentioned



USA refuses to support anti-Israel Resolutions  in the United Nations.

Germany also refuses to support anti-Israel Resolutions.

The voting is there for you to see.
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Reply #158 - May 27th, 2012 at 3:17pm
 
So tell me, USA is biased and terrorist according to you.

But you see the stupidity in your argument when it is Pakistan putting a Resolution!!

Also is Germany therefore a terrorist too for refusing to support the resolutions?
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Reply #159 - May 27th, 2012 at 3:22pm
 
No sorry I was wrong USA is in no way biased and Israel is right.
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Reply #160 - May 27th, 2012 at 3:25pm
 
bobbythefap1 wrote on May 27th, 2012 at 3:22pm:
No sorry I was wrong USA is in no way biased and Israel is right.



So Social Democratic Germany is biased?

Look at Germany's vote record in UN on Israeli related issues.

2004 - 07 - Germany Abstain
2004 - 12 - Germany Abstain
2008 - 03 - Germany Abstain
2008 - 09 - Germany Abstain
2009 - 01 - Germany Abstain
2011 - 07 - Germany Abstain
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Reply #161 - May 27th, 2012 at 3:26pm
 
Avram Horowitz wrote on May 27th, 2012 at 3:25pm:
bobbythefap1 wrote on May 27th, 2012 at 3:22pm:
No sorry I was wrong USA is in no way biased and Israel is right.



So Social Democratic Germany is biased?

Look at Germany's vote record in UN on Israeli related issues.

That isn't a democratic decision when the people don't have a say in it.
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Reply #162 - May 27th, 2012 at 3:27pm
 
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so tell me, USA is biased and terrorist according to you


What did you think of the invasion of iraq avram? Just wondering.

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Reply #163 - May 27th, 2012 at 3:28pm
 
Obviously they are abstaining because they are scared of the yanks.

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Reply #164 - May 27th, 2012 at 3:32pm
 
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 27th, 2012 at 3:27pm:
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so tell me, USA is biased and terrorist according to you


What did you think of the invasion of iraq avram? Just wondering.

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I supported it but not for Israel to be involved.
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