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Shooting Settlers
May 23rd, 2012 at 8:20am
 
Video taken of settlers shooting @ palestinians while soldiers stand by.

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An Israeli human rights group has released a video that appears to show Israeli soldiers standing by while Jewish settlers open fire on stone-throwing Palestinian protesters in the West Bank, wounding one of them, reports the BBC's Rupert Wingfield Hayes.

It is the sort of incident that we often hear about, but almost never get to see. This time, thanks to B'Tselem, we have graphic video evidence of what happened.

The picture the videos paint is disturbing. It appears to show Jewish settler youths attacking a Palestinian village; later heavily armed Jewish settlers shooting at, and wounding, a Palestinian man, and most disturbing of all, Israeli soldiers standing by and doing nothing to prevent the shooting.
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    It is the Israeli military's responsibility to protect all civilians from violence, not to favour one population at the expense of another”

End Quote Jessica Montel B'Tselem

The incident happened on Saturday afternoon just outside the Palestinian village of Asira al-Qubliya.

In the first video a large number of young men from the nearby Jewish settlement of Yitzhar can be seen descending a mountainside towards the Palestinian village. The young settlers can be distinguished by the white cloths wound tightly around their heads.

As the settlers approach the village, young Palestinian men from Asira al-Qubliya can be seen coming out to confront them.

One Palestinian man runs towards them up the hill. He throws a rock at the approaching men, who reply in kind.

One important detail is that, at this stage, there is no sign of any burning fields.

Video from the human rights group, B'Tselem, appears to show young settlers descend a mountainside to attack the Palestinian village of Asira al-Qubliya

In the second video the scene has changed.

A group of men in white T-shirts, carrying assault rifles, is standing just outside the village. These are older settlers from Yitzhar.

The fields behind them are now burning. A group of Israeli soldiers enters the scene from the right.

The Palestinian youths start throwing stones at the soldiers and the armed settlers.

Two of the armed settlers aim at one Palestinian youth just metres away and open fire. He falls down behind a rock wall.

As the settlers retreat other Palestinian villagers rush in to drag the injured man away. He has been shot in the side of the head. Fortunately, the wound is not serious.

Video from the human rights group, B'Tselem, appears to show Israeli soldiers standing by while settlers open fire on stone-throwing Palestinian protesters

The third video shows the same scene from a different angle.

This time a third armed settler, armed with a handgun rather than a rifle, can be seen taking aim and shooting at the Palestinian youths.

Standing right beside him as he does so are two Israeli army soldiers, who make no attempt to stop him.

In this video the injured man can be seen more clearly, blood pouring from the side of his head.

As he is carried back to the village the other young Palestinian men shout in defiance.

Video from the human rights group, B'Tselem, appears to show an armed settler taking aim at the Palestinian youths

In a telephone interview with the BBC a spokesman for the Yitzhar settlement, Avraham Binyamin, claimed the incident had been started by the Palestinian villagers who, he said, had deliberately set fire to their own land in order to try and burn down the Jewish settlement.
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    Once [the settlers] arrived on the scene they were attacked by hundreds of Arab rioters hurling rocks at them”

End Quote Avraham Binyamin Spokesman for Yitzhar settlement

"We know for years a phenomenon that we call 'arson terror'," he said. "This year it is the third consecutive Saturday that Arabs set fire with the aim that the fire would reach homes in Yitzhar as it did in the past."

He said the settlers had gone down the hill to try and extinguish the fire, and that was when the confrontation with the Palestinians began.

"Once they arrived on the scene they were attacked by hundreds of Arab rioters hurling rocks at them," he said. "The fire was already on when the young men came down from Yitzhar."

But the video shows that there was no fire burning when the young settlers came down the hill.

It's impossible to tell from the videos who started the fire. But the villagers of Asira al-Qubliya point out that it was their own fields that were burned, and that the fire was much closer to their own village than to the Jewish settlement.
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"Sometimes twice a week the settlers come down and start attacking us and damaging our farms," says Fathi Nijem Asayrah, the father of the young man shot in the side of the head in Saturday's incident.
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    The settler who shot my son did it right next to a soldier, but he did nothing to intervene”

End Quote Fathi Nijem Asayrah Father of injured Palestinian

Sitting beside his son's hospital bed, he is angry at the settlers, but even more angry at the soldiers.

"The settler who shot my son did it right next to a soldier, but he did nothing to intervene."

It is this fact, clearly visible in the videos, that has most disturbed B'Tselem.

"It is the Israeli military's responsibility to protect all civilians from violence, not to favour one population at the expense of another," says its spokesperson Jessica Montel.

"What we saw again on Saturday is that the Israeli military did not intervene even when the settlers began shooting."

The Israeli military meanwhile has released a statement.

"During the confrontation, live fire was used," it said. "The incident is currently being investigated by the division commander. It appears that the video in question does not reflect the incident in its entirety."


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Reply #1 - May 23rd, 2012 at 9:43am
 
Its funny to hear them say they try and stop settlers as well as Palestinians.
Ok you may try and 'stop' them but kindly talking to someone for something you would should another person for is just a great example of a terrorist regime.
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Reply #2 - May 23rd, 2012 at 9:53am
 
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Terrorism is the systematic use of terror, especially as a means of coercion.
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Reply #3 - May 23rd, 2012 at 9:54am
 
falah wrote on May 23rd, 2012 at 9:53am:
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Terrorism is the systematic use of terror, especially as a means of coercion.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism

Sorry falah but what a word actually means is not important to using a word for people on this site.
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Reply #4 - May 23rd, 2012 at 1:27pm
 
Let me tell you of personal experience spot of borg, you know why because since I have been in Australia since January I can realise how far away this is so what happens is you read stories from Israel and so you believe everything.

March, 2008 when I am in national service post to Hebron region.
Me and my 2 comrades is called to disturbance.

I arrive and Immediate surrounded from Palestinian women screaming to me that their children is down the hill but can not come to the house because settlers is firing gunfire across the streets and also one boy he has received small wound from stones cracked from gun fire.

I say to her to calm down and I will see.

I call in Hebrew to the settlers stop firing and take the children to the Palestinians. I rescue situation.

But you know what I also do?
I go to top of hill where is the settlers and tell them to behave.
I tell them is unacceptable and if we are called back today we are coming back and make arrests next time.
Settlers apologise to me.

I have settlers stop shooting I have Palestinians in their section and I give out warning.

I get no thanks. I am told by Palestinian woman "see how you let them do it. See how you don't stop them?"
See what I mean? She is wrong. I did stop them, I did make them safe.
But look how the story can read.

Know the real happenings my friend.
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Reply #5 - May 23rd, 2012 at 1:49pm
 
These kids don't know a thing about war, Avram. They think it's like a video game.

It's always sticky, messy and complicated. Sometimes just picking the enemy is impossible. And the enemy/friendly has family and lives in a community. They're all potential enemies.

I'll say this much: you enter a war to defend yourself or your country. You don't bugger about with people who will die to defend themselves - who will send their kids to die for their little patch of earth.

If I was Israel, Avram, I'd give a little to get a little.
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Reply #6 - May 23rd, 2012 at 2:05pm
 
Yes I know. There must be agreement but if they fire rockets they must always know we are firing back.
In west bank we army were also police so you can not go in shooting everything. You must make judgements, talk to people but only when you know your comrade he is covering your back and periphery vision. You know they try to bring out soldiers to line of sniper fire particularly Gaza border.
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Reply #7 - May 23rd, 2012 at 2:57pm
 
Avram.

Thankyou for sharing but I have gotten most of my information about whats going on from you yourself. You have told me that israel issues court orders to bulldoze homes in gaza. You wouldn't tell me what gives those "israeli" courts the right to do that since those houses are not israeli.

You have also told me that rachel corrie deserved what she got because she was there in front of the bulldozer. In any other country that I know of if someone was standing in front of a bulldozer then authorities would be called to remove them before proceeding and murder wouldn't be allowed.

Maybe you havent been the one to drive a bulldozer. That is fair enough. Do you @ least have any compassion for those that are hard done by and killed etc? Those that are displaced from their homes?

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Reply #8 - May 23rd, 2012 at 2:58pm
 
Karnal wrote on May 23rd, 2012 at 1:49pm:
These kids don't know a thing about war, Avram. They think it's like a video game.

It's always sticky, messy and complicated. Sometimes just picking the enemy is impossible. And the enemy/friendly has family and lives in a community. They're all potential enemies.

I'll say this much: you enter a war to defend yourself or your country. You don't bugger about with people who will die to defend themselves - who will send their kids to die for their little patch of earth.

If I was Israel, Avram, I'd give a little to get a little.


Its pretty obvious that ppl in homes eating their dinner are the enemy isnt it?

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Reply #9 - May 23rd, 2012 at 3:11pm
 
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 23rd, 2012 at 2:58pm:
Karnal wrote on May 23rd, 2012 at 1:49pm:
These kids don't know a thing about war, Avram. They think it's like a video game.

It's always sticky, messy and complicated. Sometimes just picking the enemy is impossible. And the enemy/friendly has family and lives in a community. They're all potential enemies.

I'll say this much: you enter a war to defend yourself or your country. You don't bugger about with people who will die to defend themselves - who will send their kids to die for their little patch of earth.

If I was Israel, Avram, I'd give a little to get a little.


Its pretty obvious that ppl in homes eating their dinner are the enemy isnt it?

SOB


Mate, I've got plenty of enemies who tuck into their meat and two veg after they've come back from the pub.

You can't discriminate.
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Reply #10 - May 23rd, 2012 at 3:16pm
 
all my enemies are so hard they dont even bother going home they get their chicken parmies right at the pub
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Reply #11 - May 23rd, 2012 at 3:17pm
 
JC Denton wrote on May 23rd, 2012 at 3:16pm:
all my enemies are so hard they dont even bother going home they get their chicken parmies right at the pub



all my enemies are dead.
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Reply #12 - May 23rd, 2012 at 3:19pm
 
... wrote on May 23rd, 2012 at 3:17pm:
JC Denton wrote on May 23rd, 2012 at 3:16pm:
all my enemies are so hard they dont even bother going home they get their chicken parmies right at the pub



all my enemies are dead.


My enemies aren't even enemies.
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Reply #13 - May 23rd, 2012 at 3:45pm
 
i just kill people for fun
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Reply #14 - May 23rd, 2012 at 3:50pm
 
JC Denton wrote on May 23rd, 2012 at 3:45pm:
i just kill people for fun


I encourage them to breed.
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