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Re: Shooting Settlers
Reply #75 - May 25^th, 2012 at 9:26pm

Avram Horowitz wrote on May 25^th, 2012 at 9:23pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on May 25^th, 2012 at 8:58pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on May 25^th, 2012 at 7:18pm:

Gaza is mostly large apartment blocks it is not little houses, very dense population.
Some parts I have damage myself on return of fire.

I am not direct responsible for apartments destroyed but there has been bad damage to some buildings by Israeli Air Force which I called with coordinates for strike support
How do I feel?

They were firing at us and trying to kill us.
We called in air force and pull back 200 meters and they did not know it was coming.
I have no bad feelings at all about it.

So why is it ok for you to do it but terrorism when they do it?

We are not attacking innocent people, we are responding to attacks and removing the threat.
You obviously do not understand the difference.

Right except you are the ones who started it so their attack would always have been after yours making them the ones 'responding'.
Yes it is a bit hard to spot the difference in things around this subject.
Its ok for you to kill civilians, but not them. Nope cant spot the diff.

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Reply #76 - May 25^th, 2012 at 9:30pm

bobbythefap1 wrote on May 25^th, 2012 at 9:26pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on May 25^th, 2012 at 9:23pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on May 25^th, 2012 at 8:58pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on May 25^th, 2012 at 7:18pm:

Gaza is mostly large apartment blocks it is not little houses, very dense population.
Some parts I have damage myself on return of fire.

I am not direct responsible for apartments destroyed but there has been bad damage to some buildings by Israeli Air Force which I called with coordinates for strike support
How do I feel?

They were firing at us and trying to kill us.
We called in air force and pull back 200 meters and they did not know it was coming.
I have no bad feelings at all about it.

So why is it ok for you to do it but terrorism when they do it?

We are not attacking innocent people, we are responding to attacks and removing the threat.
You obviously do not understand the difference.

Right except you are the ones who started it so their attack would always have been after yours making them the ones 'responding'.
Yes it is a bit hard to spot the difference in things around this subject.
Its ok for you to kill civilians, but not them. Nope cant spot the diff.

In the situation I gave - which is what I was asked - we did not attack civilians.
We came under heavy fire from apartment block east of gaza city and we called in air strike to remove the threat.

Not civilians - terrorists who attacked us as we come down the street.

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Reply #77 - May 25^th, 2012 at 9:43pm

Avram Horowitz wrote on May 25^th, 2012 at 9:30pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on May 25^th, 2012 at 9:26pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on May 25^th, 2012 at 9:23pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on May 25^th, 2012 at 8:58pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on May 25^th, 2012 at 7:18pm:

Gaza is mostly large apartment blocks it is not little houses, very dense population.
Some parts I have damage myself on return of fire.

I am not direct responsible for apartments destroyed but there has been bad damage to some buildings by Israeli Air Force which I called with coordinates for strike support
How do I feel?

They were firing at us and trying to kill us.
We called in air force and pull back 200 meters and they did not know it was coming.
I have no bad feelings at all about it.

So why is it ok for you to do it but terrorism when they do it?

We are not attacking innocent people, we are responding to attacks and removing the threat.
You obviously do not understand the difference.

Right except you are the ones who started it so their attack would always have been after yours making them the ones 'responding'.
Yes it is a bit hard to spot the difference in things around this subject.
Its ok for you to kill civilians, but not them. Nope cant spot the diff.

In the situation I gave - which is what I was asked - we did not attack civilians.
We came under heavy fire from apartment block east of gaza city and we called in air strike to remove the threat.

Not civilians - terrorists who attacked us as we come down the street.

So there were no civilians in the apartment block?

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Avram Horowitz Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3153 Australia Gender:	Re: Shooting Settlers Reply #78 - May 25^th, 2012 at 9:48pm we were responding to heavy fire and required air support.
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bobbythefap1 Gold Member Offline Posts: 7026 Listen now to the rain	Re: Shooting Settlers Reply #79 - May 25^th, 2012 at 9:49pm Avram Horowitz wrote on May 25^th, 2012 at 9:48pm: we were responding to heavy fire and required air support. So you fired on civilians?
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Avram Horowitz Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3153 Australia Gender:	Re: Shooting Settlers Reply #80 - May 25^th, 2012 at 10:00pm bobbythefap1 wrote on May 25^th, 2012 at 9:49pm: Avram Horowitz wrote on May 25^th, 2012 at 9:48pm: we were responding to heavy fire and required air support. So you fired on civilians? No.
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Reply #81 - May 25^th, 2012 at 10:38pm

Avram Horowitz wrote on May 25^th, 2012 at 9:30pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on May 25^th, 2012 at 9:26pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on May 25^th, 2012 at 9:23pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on May 25^th, 2012 at 8:58pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on May 25^th, 2012 at 7:18pm:

Gaza is mostly large apartment blocks it is not little houses, very dense population.
Some parts I have damage myself on return of fire.

I am not direct responsible for apartments destroyed but there has been bad damage to some buildings by Israeli Air Force which I called with coordinates for strike support
How do I feel?

They were firing at us and trying to kill us.
We called in air force and pull back 200 meters and they did not know it was coming.
I have no bad feelings at all about it.

So why is it ok for you to do it but terrorism when they do it?

We are not attacking innocent people, we are responding to attacks and removing the threat.
You obviously do not understand the difference.

Right except you are the ones who started it so their attack would always have been after yours making them the ones 'responding'.
Yes it is a bit hard to spot the difference in things around this subject.
Its ok for you to kill civilians, but not them. Nope cant spot the diff.

In the situation I gave - which is what I was asked - we did not attack civilians.
We came under heavy fire from apartment block east of gaza city and we called in air strike to remove the threat.

Not civilians - terrorists who attacked us as we come down the street.

No - innocent terrorists. We walk down street first, nice day, minding our business.

You call in air strike to make a suprise.

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Reply #82 - May 25^th, 2012 at 10:45pm

bobbythefap1 wrote on May 25^th, 2012 at 9:49pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on May 25^th, 2012 at 9:48pm:

we were responding to heavy fire and required air support.

So you fired on civilians?

How do YOU tell the difference between Arabs it's ok to fire on because they are shooting at you and Arabs it's not ok to fire on because they are merely shielding Arabs who are firing on you??

Your wisdom would be appreciated.

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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 96294 Gender:	Re: Shooting Settlers Reply #83 - May 25^th, 2012 at 11:02pm Is hard. With Israelis, it is ones in tank who fire at everything. They fire like a party of drunken sailor.
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Reply #84 - May 25^th, 2012 at 11:13pm

Karnal wrote on May 25^th, 2012 at 11:02pm:

Is hard. With Israelis, it is ones in tank who fire at everything. They fire like a party of drunken sailor.

In parts of Gaza - such as where I am talking - it is not possible to have tanks come through this zone.
Both too small streets and also that the Hamas terrorists have anti-tank launchers.

Much more safe to draw fire and then call in IAF.

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Soren Gold Member Offline Posts: 25654 Gender:	Re: Shooting Settlers Reply #85 - May 25^th, 2012 at 11:22pm Karnal wrote on May 25^th, 2012 at 11:02pm: Is hard. With Israelis, it is ones in tank who fire at everything. They fire like a party of drunken sailor. Funny how they don't shoot at other Jews, only at Arabs with gunz. Must be racism. Or not drunken enough. Or shome other mishtake.
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Reply #86 - May 26^th, 2012 at 9:21am

Avram Horowitz wrote on May 25^th, 2012 at 7:18pm:

Gaza is mostly large apartment blocks it is not little houses, very dense population.
Some parts I have damage myself on return of fire.

I am not direct responsible for apartments destroyed but there has been bad damage to some buildings by Israeli Air Force which I called with coordinates for strike support
How do I feel?

They were firing at us and trying to kill us.
We called in air force and pull back 200 meters and they did not know it was coming.
I have no bad feelings at all about it.

Why were they firing on you? Perhaps because you were coming through THEIR city with guns?

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Reply #87 - May 26^th, 2012 at 9:23am

Avram Horowitz wrote on May 25^th, 2012 at 7:29pm:

In cast lead Gaza has too large apartment buildings.
It is much too difficult and dangerous for us to go into the building.

So tactic is to draw fire for 30 mins understand the coordinates and section of Hamas fighters then call for F-15e to attack from the air.

You bombed 2 large apartment buildings from the air and you think you didnt kill any children? You dont feel any remorse @ destroying the homes of 100s of ppl in those apartment blocks?

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Reply #88 - May 26^th, 2012 at 9:24am

Soren wrote on May 25^th, 2012 at 9:00pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on May 25^th, 2012 at 8:58pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on May 25^th, 2012 at 7:18pm:

Gaza is mostly large apartment blocks it is not little houses, very dense population.
Some parts I have damage myself on return of fire.

I am not direct responsible for apartments destroyed but there has been bad damage to some buildings by Israeli Air Force which I called with coordinates for strike support
How do I feel?

They were firing at us and trying to kill us.
We called in air force and pull back 200 meters and they did not know it was coming.
I have no bad feelings at all about it.

So why is it ok for you to do it but terrorism when they do it?

Because they start it. The Jews hit back.

Oh you mean like in freedivers completely obvious lying explanation?

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Borg, this requires a frank look at the evidence, not spin doctoring. Take this as an example:

Country A attacks B on day X in history.

80 days later country B defends itself.

3 hours later country A launches yet another unprovoked attack.

This time it takes B a bit longer to summon it's resources, but manages to respond in 130 days.

87 minutes later country A again launches another completely unprovoked attack.

...and so on

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