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Reply #15 - May 25^th, 2012 at 4:58pm

Federal minister Anthony Albanese says the opposition may have breached the Crimes Act

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Green boy, you have no cred. Some thinking music please; would Mr Thomson like to be roped into court over a matter involving him and The Abbott? Mr Thomson is allergic to the police and our courts.

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Reply #16 - May 25^th, 2012 at 5:13pm

Albanese: "They've now gone to the step which is a breach of Section 28 of the Crimes Act in attempting to suggest that `we'll lay off if you just resign from parliament'.

followed later by "may well be looked at by the appropriate authorities".

Which could be taken as... 'We are getting scarred because we know Thomson is toast. My only solution it to try and scare you into not pursuing this any more by looking for any possible interpretation of the law to shut you up. It may buy me another week or two'

Albanese isn't going to do crap. He knows that it won't stick because Abbott didn't break the law any more than Thomson did when he said Abbott is unfit to be a MP.

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Re: Mr Abbott Broke The Law
Reply #17 - May 25^th, 2012 at 5:18pm

Quantum wrote on May 25^th, 2012 at 5:13pm:

Albanese: "They've now gone to the step which is a breach of Section 28 of the Crimes Act in attempting to suggest that `we'll lay off if you just resign from parliament'.

followed later by "may well be looked at by the appropriate authorities".

Which could be taken as... 'We are getting scarred because we know Thomson is toast. My only solution it to try and scare you into not pursuing this any more by looking for any possible interpretation of the law to shut you up. It may buy me another week or two'

Albanese isn't going to do crap. He knows that it won't stick because Abbott didn't break the law any more than Thomson did when he said Abbott is unfit to be a MP.

Yep the half wit sucked the quarter wits right in.

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Re: Mr Abbott Broke The Law
Reply #18 - May 25^th, 2012 at 5:18pm

It would be better if he left the parliament, even if it was a leave of absence, it gets him out of the public eye, and away from the pressure of the public life.

It was actually decent advice. Go away, lick your wounds, and let it play out. Isnt that what Slipper has done?

It wasnt a threat. Im no fan of Abbott, but I dont see any breach of the crimes act.

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Re: Mr Abbott Broke The Law
Reply #19 - May 25^th, 2012 at 5:26pm

skippy. wrote on May 25^th, 2012 at 4:10pm:

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Opposition Leader Tony Abbott said on Friday: "The best thing for everyone - to take the pressure off him, to take the pressure off his family - would be for (Mr Thomson) to leave the parliament."

Under Section 28 of the Crimes Act it is an offence for anyone "who, by violence or by threats or intimidation of any kind, hinders or interferes with the free exercise or performance, by any other person, of any political right or duty".

phony Tony should be charged for this,sooooooooooooooooooo funny. This turd wont make it to the next election, he''ll be leading the Libs from long bay sharing a cell with a cross dressing sex worker.

so by that definition shorten should still be in jail for enticing a riot to smash down the gates of parliament house.. in another time that would be treason.

oFF WITH HIS HEAD..AND CHUCK YOU KNOW WHOS IN FOR GOOD MEASURE.

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Re: Mr Abbott Broke The Law
Reply #20 - May 25^th, 2012 at 5:28pm

mozzaok wrote on May 25^th, 2012 at 4:55pm:

Well here we go again.

"Abbott broke the law" I THINK NOT

"Abbott accused of breaking the law" FAIR ENOUGH

Everyone who said Abbott has behaved badly against Thomson, and then turn around and declare Abbott as being guilty of something he is massively unlikely to ever be charged with, are really putting themselves up to look like total hypocrites, or dills.

As to the suggestion by Mr Alabanese, that Abbott may have contravened whatever rule he said, we can look at it two ways;
1; As an interested party just making an observation of the situation as they see it.
2; As a primary instigator of a massive amount of the pressure he suggests that Thomson can alleviate by leaving parliament, the statement from Abbott could be construed as some type of threat, "resign, or else" would paraphrase the intention being suggested of Abbott's comment.

Personally, while I can see how the argument for the second scenario is not delusional, or to incredible to believe, to once more paraphrase some Lib frontbenchers language, I do not believe any investigator could definitively prove Abbott intended it that way, and hence, nothing will come of it.
It may help inspire Mr Abbott to be more thoughtful about what he says, but I wouldn't count on it, his basic nature seems inclined to being a bit of an A-Hole.

it is all rather ludicrous of Albanese who i getting more hysterical by the day. He has articualted precisely NO argument by which Abbott could even be given a second thought regarding a crime nevermind an actual investgation

perhaps if Albanese took seriously the fact that Thomson is under enormous pressure by virtie of his own misdeeds then perhaps he could gain some perspective.

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Re: Mr Abbott Broke The Law
Reply #22 - May 25^th, 2012 at 5:29pm

Verge wrote on May 25^th, 2012 at 5:18pm:

It would be better if he left the parliament, even if it was a leave of absence, it gets him out of the public eye, and away from the pressure of the public life.

It was actually decent advice. Go away, lick your wounds, and let it play out. Isnt that what Slipper has done?

It wasnt a threat. Im no fan of Abbott, but I dont see any breach of the crimes act.

he should have been suspended on full pay just like slipper.. hear hear.. I am sick of saying it..

this goose has been cooked by all the clever sticks in the Labor party... they have been desperate to stitch Tony up its all they care about..

instead it rebounds rebounds rebounds.. LOL..

if they had done what the libs told them to do in the beginning it would be gone forgotten..

instead in their need to hang on to a desperate life of POWER.. this is their reward.. suck it up suckers.

remember in the beginning they could do no wrong as far as the indies were concerned!!!!

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Re: Mr Abbott Broke The Law
Reply #23 - May 25^th, 2012 at 5:49pm

salad in wrote on May 25^th, 2012 at 4:58pm:

Federal minister Anthony Albanese says the opposition may have breached the Crimes Act

Juxtapose the story as it was reported with the Green boy's helpful words:

Mr Abbott Broke The Law

Green boy, you have no cred. Some thinking music please; would Mr Thomson like to be roped into court over a matter involving him and The Abbott? Mr Thomson is allergic to the police and our courts.

Pretty sure gillard said in QT that he did break the law. It was blackmail. He said he would lay off thomson if thomson resigned.

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Re: Mr Abbott Broke The Law
Reply #24 - May 25^th, 2012 at 6:02pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 25^th, 2012 at 5:49pm:

salad in wrote on May 25^th, 2012 at 4:58pm:

Federal minister Anthony Albanese says the opposition may have breached the Crimes Act

Juxtapose the story as it was reported with the Green boy's helpful words:

Mr Abbott Broke The Law

Green boy, you have no cred. Some thinking music please; would Mr Thomson like to be roped into court over a matter involving him and The Abbott? Mr Thomson is allergic to the police and our courts.

Pretty sure gillard said in QT that he did break the law. It was blackmail. He said he would lay off thomson if thomson resigned.

SOB

Because Abbott has been having issues with Labor, not Thomson. If Thomson left he would not be accusing labor of running a "protection racket". Abbott's issue is having Thomson still in parliment with all the questions that are hanging over him. If he was no longer in parliment there would be no issue and Abbott would have nothing left to say regarding it.

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Re: Mr Abbott (Allegedly) Broke The Law
Reply #25 - May 25^th, 2012 at 6:15pm

____ wrote on May 25^th, 2012 at 4:04pm:

Abbott remarks on Thomson 'breach law'

Federal minister Anthony Albanese says the opposition may have breached the Crimes Act by calling for MP Craig Thomson's resignation.

Mr Thomson faces civil court action by Fair Work Australia over his alleged misuse of Health Services Union member funds when he was national secretary from 2002 to 2007.

Opposition Leader Tony Abbott said on Friday: "The best thing for everyone - to take the pressure off him, to take the pressure off his family - would be for (Mr Thomson) to leave the parliament."

Mr Albanese said Mr Abbott had gone a step too far.

"They've now gone the next step," Mr Albanese told ABC radio.

"They've now gone to the step which is a breach of Section 28 of the Crimes Act in attempting to suggest that `we'll lay off if you just resign from parliament'.

"That is a very serious thing for the leader of the opposition to do."

Under Section 28 of the Crimes Act it is an offence for anyone "who, by violence or by threats or intimidation of any kind, hinders or interferes with the free exercise or performance, by any other person, of any political right or duty".

Mr Albanese said it "may well be looked at by the appropriate authorities".

"The Crimes Act is very clear about not allowing any intimidation of any kind which hinders or interferes with the free exercise of any political right or duty," Mr Albanese said.

Mr Albanese said Mr Thomson had never expressed to him any indication he would resign from parliament.

"He ... declares his innocence of all the allegations that have been made against him," the minister said.

http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-national/abbott-remarks-on-thomson-breach-l...

Typical of Albanese to apply some creative editing to what Abbott said, because he never said anything like what Albanese has insinuated. What a jackass Albanese is!

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Re: Mr Abbott Broke The Law
Reply #26 - May 25^th, 2012 at 7:17pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 25^th, 2012 at 5:49pm:

salad in wrote on May 25^th, 2012 at 4:58pm:

Federal minister Anthony Albanese says the opposition may have breached the Crimes Act

Juxtapose the story as it was reported with the Green boy's helpful words:

Mr Abbott Broke The Law

Green boy, you have no cred. Some thinking music please; would Mr Thomson like to be roped into court over a matter involving him and The Abbott? Mr Thomson is allergic to the police and our courts.

Pretty sure gillard said in QT that he did break the law. It was blackmail. He said he would lay off thomson if thomson resigned.

SOB

and gillard's word is valuable????? Grin

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angeleyes Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 615	Re: Mr Abbott (Allegedly) Broke The Law Reply #27 - May 25^th, 2012 at 7:20pm Pretty sure gillard said in QT that he did break the law. It was blackmail. Speaking of blackmail, four names come to mind. Brown, Windsor, Oakshot and Wilkie.
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Re: Mr Abbott Broke The Law
Reply #28 - May 25^th, 2012 at 7:21pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 25^th, 2012 at 5:49pm:

Pretty sure gillard said in QT that he did break the law. It was blackmail. He said he would lay off thomson if thomson resigned.

SOB

Then what are we to make of the brothel inspector's words to Abbott about being unfit to be an MP and unfit to be a future PM? Is that an attempt to intimidate Abbott? Hard to see that one flying but it's hard to see Green boy's report gaining any legs.

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Re: Mr Abbott Broke The Law
Reply #29 - May 25^th, 2012 at 8:20pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 25^th, 2012 at 5:49pm:

salad in wrote on May 25^th, 2012 at 4:58pm:

Federal minister Anthony Albanese says the opposition may have breached the Crimes Act

Juxtapose the story as it was reported with the Green boy's helpful words:

Mr Abbott Broke The Law

Green boy, you have no cred. Some thinking music please; would Mr Thomson like to be roped into court over a matter involving him and The Abbott? Mr Thomson is allergic to the police and our courts.

Pretty sure gillard said in QT that he did break the law. It was blackmail. He said he would lay off thomson if thomson resigned.

SOB

This is what Abbott said, so please show us all where he says that if Thomson resigns he'll leave him alone...

Opposition Leader Tony Abbott said on Friday: "The best thing for everyone - to take the pressure off him, to take the pressure off his family - would be for (Mr Thomson) to leave the parliament."

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