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Chard
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Reply #15 - May 29th, 2012 at 1:10pm
 
BigOl64 wrote on May 29th, 2012 at 1:01pm:
Looks like you delivered an Alabama Slamma there Chard  Grin


It'll become even more entertaining if he chooses to bring up that half-baked horseshit about Israel supposed getting theirs with "no stings attached".  We've been restricting more and more weapon systems we will seel to Israel for the last 20 years ever since we caught Israel attempting to sell Patriot missile batteries we sold them to the PRC.  At the same time we've been constantly expanding the list of toys we'd sell to Egypt up until they choose to elect a government that's seeming to consider going full retard on us by openly violating the Accords.

Hopefully if Egypt chooses to back out of the Accords they won't be dumb enough to violate the treaties concerning navigation rights through the Suez.  If that happens then pretty much every sea-faring nation on earth is treaty obligated to remove Egypt's government from power and possibly Egypt itself from the map.
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Reply #16 - May 29th, 2012 at 1:40pm
 
Chard wrote on May 29th, 2012 at 1:39am:
And again the Associated Press shows why they're only real purpose is as part some absurd plot to commit genocide against trees. It's not the facts they got wrong, it's how they went about presenting those facts and in the conclusions drawn from their presentation that's fallacious at best, outright bullshit written to sell copies and to hell with the truth at worst. 

They're absolutely correct about the steep rise in number of claims filed, for example the 45% for veterans of the last tens years of operations in Iraq and Afghanistan vs only 21% for the first Gulf War back in 1990-1991.  Thing is, the Gulf War was a single theater conflict that combat operations lasted a total of 210 days, so comparing claims from that against claims from around a decade or so of combat operations across two theaters involving several times as many troops is just a little shady.

Simple math says that upwards of 225,000 troops deployed per year for ten years of sustained combat operations will have more casualties, and thus will produce more disability claims, then 500,000 troop deployed for 210 day of combat operations.

The other problem is while they get the facts they actual present right, they're also omitting other facts.  Examples here would be the number of ailments claimed by vets of the last ten years of operations vs the numbers for previous conflicts. They're correct that average number of ailments climbed being 8-9 and that over the last year or so that's climbed significantly.  They're also correct that the average for Vietnam vets is around 4.  What they're neglecting to mention is that thanks to the lobbying efforts of various veterans groups over the last 30 years the number of ailments that can be claimed for benefits has massively increased, and the criteria for being able to qualify for those benefits has been lowered.

Simple math says when you lower the bar to qualify for benefits while increasing the number of ailments that can be claimed that claims numbers will rise.

About the only thing they got right was that the real costs of Chimpus Caesar's "Kill-Brown-People-Palooza" won't be fully understood for decades to come.


The AP is a news service, it doesn't sell "copies" of anything, it sells its news service to media outlets who can use it or not as they please.

You make some interesting points, Chard, how about writing to AP and see how they respond? Or write to the newspapers that used the story........
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Re: 'The most damaged generation ever'
Reply #17 - May 29th, 2012 at 1:45pm
 
Peter Freedman wrote on May 29th, 2012 at 1:40pm:
The AP is a news service, it doesn't sell "copies" of anything, it sells its news service to media outlets who can use it or not as they please.


Considering the AP is owned by a coop of newspapers/agencies that contribute to it, yeah, it really is about selling copy, dude.


Peter Freedman wrote on May 29th, 2012 at 1:40pm:
You make some interesting points, Chard, how about writing to AP and see how they respond? Or write to the newspapers that used the story........


Done both and the AP tends to ignore such and writing letters to the editor to your local rag is about as useful as faring into a blizzard.
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