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Reply #15 - May 29^th, 2012 at 12:39pm

bobbythefap1 wrote on May 29^th, 2012 at 12:37pm:

... wrote on May 29^th, 2012 at 12:35pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on May 29^th, 2012 at 12:26pm:

... wrote on May 29^th, 2012 at 12:23pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 29^th, 2012 at 12:13pm:

Studies done back in the 70s did show a very high incidence in homosexuals that was traced to chronic feelings of guilt for lying to almost everyone they knew about who they are and from chronic fear, fear of being found out if they were in the closet (which most were) and fear of being assaulted, which happened a lot and the police seldom took action on these studies were published in early 70sconducted in late 60s to early 70s

I know of no study that indicates gays suffer a higher rate of bi-polar disorder

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Now you do.

http://www.homosexinfo.org/Psychiatry/Overview

What you need to distinguish is the problem is not with the individual it is with the society and environment in which they live. If someone wants to rebel or be an outcast then clearly there is something they want to rebel or be outcasted from.

Whether someone not fitting in is a "problem" at all is debatable - Nobody can fit in to every section of society. Flamboyant fags would fit in to certain settings much easier than I would, and vice versa. I'm comfortable with not fitting in very well at a fashion show, so I don't care if they don't feel like they fit in at a footy club. To each, their own.

So then they aren't really being outcasts they just aren't a part of a certain section of society.
Why you dislike them so much?

Why do I dislike who so much?

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Re: gays have high rate of bi-Polar, depression ???
Reply #16 - May 29^th, 2012 at 12:43pm

... wrote on May 29^th, 2012 at 12:39pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on May 29^th, 2012 at 12:37pm:

... wrote on May 29^th, 2012 at 12:35pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on May 29^th, 2012 at 12:26pm:

... wrote on May 29^th, 2012 at 12:23pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 29^th, 2012 at 12:13pm:

Studies done back in the 70s did show a very high incidence in homosexuals that was traced to chronic feelings of guilt for lying to almost everyone they knew about who they are and from chronic fear, fear of being found out if they were in the closet (which most were) and fear of being assaulted, which happened a lot and the police seldom took action on these studies were published in early 70sconducted in late 60s to early 70s

I know of no study that indicates gays suffer a higher rate of bi-polar disorder

SOB

Now you do.

http://www.homosexinfo.org/Psychiatry/Overview

What you need to distinguish is the problem is not with the individual it is with the society and environment in which they live. If someone wants to rebel or be an outcast then clearly there is something they want to rebel or be outcasted from.

Whether someone not fitting in is a "problem" at all is debatable - Nobody can fit in to every section of society. Flamboyant fags would fit in to certain settings much easier than I would, and vice versa. I'm comfortable with not fitting in very well at a fashion show, so I don't care if they don't feel like they fit in at a footy club. To each, their own.

So then they aren't really being outcasts they just aren't a part of a certain section of society.
Why you dislike them so much?

Why do I dislike who so much?

'Fags' as you put it

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Reply #17 - May 29^th, 2012 at 1:05pm

bobbythefap1 wrote on May 29^th, 2012 at 12:43pm:

... wrote on May 29^th, 2012 at 12:39pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on May 29^th, 2012 at 12:37pm:

... wrote on May 29^th, 2012 at 12:35pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on May 29^th, 2012 at 12:26pm:

... wrote on May 29^th, 2012 at 12:23pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 29^th, 2012 at 12:13pm:

Studies done back in the 70s did show a very high incidence in homosexuals that was traced to chronic feelings of guilt for lying to almost everyone they knew about who they are and from chronic fear, fear of being found out if they were in the closet (which most were) and fear of being assaulted, which happened a lot and the police seldom took action on these studies were published in early 70sconducted in late 60s to early 70s

I know of no study that indicates gays suffer a higher rate of bi-polar disorder

SOB

Now you do.

http://www.homosexinfo.org/Psychiatry/Overview

What you need to distinguish is the problem is not with the individual it is with the society and environment in which they live. If someone wants to rebel or be an outcast then clearly there is something they want to rebel or be outcasted from.

Whether someone not fitting in is a "problem" at all is debatable - Nobody can fit in to every section of society. Flamboyant fags would fit in to certain settings much easier than I would, and vice versa. I'm comfortable with not fitting in very well at a fashion show, so I don't care if they don't feel like they fit in at a footy club. To each, their own.

So then they aren't really being outcasts they just aren't a part of a certain section of society.
Why you dislike them so much?

Why do I dislike who so much?

'Fags' as you put it

Can't love everyone. I suspect flamboyant fags wouldn't care for me much either.

*shrugs*

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Reply #20 - Jun 6^th, 2012 at 9:54am

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 6^th, 2012 at 7:50am:

However ppl should be judged individually on their merits instead of as groups labelled nicely by bigots.

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I couldn't agree more.

However, you grovellers should realise that "judging people by groups" is exactly what you're guilty of when you rush to their defence, on the basis of nothing more than their group identity.

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Reply #21 - Jun 6^th, 2012 at 9:55am

... wrote on Jun 6^th, 2012 at 9:54am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 6^th, 2012 at 7:50am:

However ppl should be judged individually on their merits instead of as groups labelled nicely by bigots.

SOB

I couldn't agree more.

However, you grovellers should realise that "judging people by groups" is exactly what you're guilty of when you rush to their defence, on the basis of nothing more than their group identity.

If you are talking about gays the whole idea is to make them NOT a group anymore by giving them equality.

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Reply #22 - Jun 6^th, 2012 at 10:00am

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 6^th, 2012 at 9:55am:

... wrote on Jun 6^th, 2012 at 9:54am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 6^th, 2012 at 7:50am:

However ppl should be judged individually on their merits instead of as groups labelled nicely by bigots.

SOB

I couldn't agree more.

However, you grovellers should realise that "judging people by groups" is exactly what you're guilty of when you rush to their defence, on the basis of nothing more than their group identity.

If you are talking about gays the whole idea is to make them NOT a group anymore by giving them equality.

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Is that the whole idea is it?

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Reply #23 - Jun 6^th, 2012 at 10:09am

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 6^th, 2012 at 7:50am:

However ppl should be judged individually on their merits instead of as groups labelled nicely by bigots.

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So why are there gay pride parades, gay and lesbian outreach officers, rainbow coalition, gay this and that? They are labelling themselves.

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Reply #24 - Jun 6^th, 2012 at 10:39am

Soren wrote on Jun 6^th, 2012 at 10:09am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 6^th, 2012 at 7:50am:

However ppl should be judged individually on their merits instead of as groups labelled nicely by bigots.

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So why are there gay pride parades, gay and lesbian outreach officers, rainbow coalition, gay this and that? They are labelling themselves.

Because they havent achieved equality yet, Still fighting for it.

Of course they are labelling themselves as a group but each person is an individual and in reallife what do you do when you find out someone is gay? Does all your friendship from years go out the window?

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Reply #25 - Jun 6^th, 2012 at 10:41am

Yadda wrote on May 29^th, 2012 at 12:04am:

'the homosexual populatuion has the Highest rate for bi-Polar and depression'

Could be. There is also plenty of evidence that shows that Gays are more artistic and creative, and I think you'll find that artists and highly creative persons (regardless of sexuality) have a much higher rate of mental illness than the general population.

There is also a link between genius and metal illness. Some of the greatest thinkers in history have suffered from epilepsy and related illnesses.

So what's your point? BY the way, I find your armchair psychologist summary of the causation of mental illness to be very telling. It's all due to confusion? Many people live with mental illness, and the vast majority can deal with it either through medication or other means. There are many different causes of mental illness.

Do you really think that your labelling it as entirely due to confusion will help them? - and are you sure that you're not confused there? You might have to check with your Bible, because I had this impression that all "flat-earth" type Christians believed that mental illness was due to demonic possession.

There's also this study:
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Affective reactions to auditory hallucinations in
psychotic, evangelical and control groups

Martin F. Davies*, Murray Griffin and Sue Vice
Goldsmiths College, University of London, UK

Objectives. Building on recent work on the similarities and differences in
delusional ideation between psychotic and religious populations (Peters, Day,
McKenna, & Orbach, 1999), the experiences of auditory hallucinations in psychotic,
evangelical and control groups were examined in this study.
Method. The incidence and subjective experiences of hearing voices were assessed
using questionnaire methods in psychotic out-patients, evangelical Christians and
controls (non-psychotic, non-evangelical).

Regardless of whether they are gay, have a mental condition, are twisted evangelical bigots or whatever, all people deserve some respect, and the freedom to attain their highest potential in life as long as they are not so impaired that they harm others.

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Reply #27 - Jun 6^th, 2012 at 10:58am

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 6^th, 2012 at 10:39am:

Soren wrote on Jun 6^th, 2012 at 10:09am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 6^th, 2012 at 7:50am:

However ppl should be judged individually on their merits instead of as groups labelled nicely by bigots.

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So why are there gay pride parades, gay and lesbian outreach officers, rainbow coalition, gay this and that? They are labelling themselves.

Because they havent achieved equality yet, Still fighting for it.

But I thought you wanted to judge them individually, not as a group. You judge normal people individually and they do not need a 'normal pride parade' or 'ordinary person's outreach officer' and such like. There is no Non-LGBT Aliance. That would be offensive. But an LGBT Alliance is also offensive, except nobody is supposed to say that. Even saying that is offensive.
That's not exctly 'judging individually' is it?

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Reply #28 - Jun 6^th, 2012 at 10:58am

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Regardless of whether they are gay, have a mental condition, are twisted evangelical bigots or whatever, all people deserve some respect, and the freedom to attain their highest potential in life as long as they are not so impaired that they harm others.

Yup

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To give up a womans love for another mans spunk you'ld have to be somewhat mental.

For you maybe, They prolly think you are mental.

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Religious have highest rates of Schizophrenia ???
Reply #29 - Jun 6^th, 2012 at 11:18am

Then there are the medical studies that have concluded that there is a deeply manifested relationship between religion and schizophrenia. Google it. This is just one link of many:
http://www.steadyhealth.com/Schizophrenia_related_to_religion_t86532.html

If you want a mental illness, just become religious.

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