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Re: Atheists, are they just suckers?
Reply #15 - May 30^th, 2012 at 6:18pm

... wrote on May 30^th, 2012 at 6:16pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on May 30^th, 2012 at 6:14pm:

... wrote on May 30^th, 2012 at 6:11pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on May 30^th, 2012 at 6:08pm:

... wrote on May 30^th, 2012 at 6:06pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on May 30^th, 2012 at 6:04pm:

... wrote on May 30^th, 2012 at 5:39pm:

All the ideologies under the "leftwad" banner. All the ideologies that are aimed at removing any group loyalties greater than the individual.

Any of these statements sound familiar?

The family is nothing but a social construct reinforcing the patriarchy.
race doesn't exist.
nationalism is evil.
religion is even eviler.
We're global citizens.

ie cultural marxism.

Its not like they believe those things for no reason, they come to those conclusions after reviewing fact.
Global citizens isnt really leftist tho

Facts eh? I take it you wouldn't have any trouble pointing me in the direction of these *ahem* facts?

Well I don't know anyone who thinks the first too and they certainly are not ideas attributed to the left.
Nationalism has been responsible for a great number of attrocitites.
Need I say anything about religion.

It's easy to prove religion has had negative effects.
It's not so easy to prove that it's overall impact is in the negative.

You do indeed know people who believe these things - theres a number of them on this very forum.

I'm a little bemused by your insistence these are not ideas of 'the left" - where do they come from then?

You cant discredit atheism so you try and discredit a small minority of the people who believe in it?

Why would I want to discredit atheism, when I am an atheist?

And it ain't no "small minority"

Well then what are you trying to prove, shouldn't people be able to believe what they want without having a label?
I could just as easily quiz you on how Nazism is a rightist idea, but that would be pointless.

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Reply #16 - May 30^th, 2012 at 6:21pm

What am I trying to prove? bugger knows - a question was asked, I answered it.

If it would make you happy, maybe we could all just answer "yes" or 'No' and leave it at that? Wouldn't that be a bit boring?

Not seeing the relevance of nazism thouhg. Not even in a round about kind of way. Unless.....unless...nar you're not so dumb as to think I subscribe to nazi ideology? Or are you?

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Re: Atheists, are they just suckers?
Reply #17 - May 30^th, 2012 at 6:26pm

... wrote on May 30^th, 2012 at 6:16pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on May 30^th, 2012 at 6:14pm:

... wrote on May 30^th, 2012 at 6:11pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on May 30^th, 2012 at 6:08pm:

... wrote on May 30^th, 2012 at 6:06pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on May 30^th, 2012 at 6:04pm:

... wrote on May 30^th, 2012 at 5:39pm:

All the ideologies under the "leftwad" banner. All the ideologies that are aimed at removing any group loyalties greater than the individual.

Any of these statements sound familiar?

The family is nothing but a social construct reinforcing the patriarchy.
race doesn't exist.
nationalism is evil.
religion is even eviler.
We're global citizens.

ie cultural marxism.

Its not like they believe those things for no reason, they come to those conclusions after reviewing fact.
Global citizens isnt really leftist tho

Facts eh? I take it you wouldn't have any trouble pointing me in the direction of these *ahem* facts?

Well I don't know anyone who thinks the first too and they certainly are not ideas attributed to the left.
Nationalism has been responsible for a great number of attrocitites.
Need I say anything about religion.

It's easy to prove religion has had negative effects.
It's not so easy to prove that it's overall impact is in the negative.

You do indeed know people who believe these things - theres a number of them on this very forum.

I'm a little bemused by your insistence these are not ideas of 'the left" - where do they come from then?

You cant discredit atheism so you try and discredit a small minority of the people who believe in it?

Why would I want to discredit atheism, when I am an atheist?

And it ain't no "small minority"

So you are a "leftard" with these positions?

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The family is nothing but a social construct reinforcing the patriarchy.
race doesn't exist.
nationalism is evil.
religion is even eviler.
We're global citizens.

ie cultural marxism.

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Reply #18 - May 30^th, 2012 at 6:26pm

... wrote on May 30^th, 2012 at 6:21pm:

What am I trying to prove? bugger knows - a question was asked, I answered it.

If it would make you happy, maybe we could all just answer "yes" or 'No' and leave it at that? Wouldn't that be a bit boring?

Not seeing the relevance of nazism thouhg. Not even in a round about kind of way. Unless.....unless...nar you're not so dumb as to think I subscribe to nazi ideology? Or are you?

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Sir Spot of Borg Gold Member Offline WE ARE BORG Posts: 26500 Australia	Re: Atheists, are they just suckers? Reply #20 - May 30^th, 2012 at 6:39pm Well 2 pages later I will leave this here for Falah. Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 30^th, 2012 at 5:39pm: Falah please tell me what an atheist is. Hint: an atheist is not a jew SOB
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Reply #21 - May 30^th, 2012 at 6:58pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 30^th, 2012 at 6:39pm:

Well 2 pages later I will leave this here for Falah.

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 30^th, 2012 at 5:39pm:

Falah please tell me what an atheist is.

Hint: an atheist is not a jew

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Not necessarily, but he might have been brainwashed by one. How many people followed Jew Karl Marx and his ""Religion is the opium of the people" statement?

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Reply #22 - May 30^th, 2012 at 6:58pm

falah wrote on May 30^th, 2012 at 5:20pm:

The Jews will tell you that is an elaborate hoax, but one of the goals mentioned in The Protocols of the Elders of Zion is to encourage atheism in order to facilitate their takeover of the world

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Chap. 14 The Destruction of Religion as a Prelude to the Rise of the Jewish God

falah - you're an idiot.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Protocols_of_the_Elders_of_Zion

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The Protocols of the Elders of Zion or The Protocols of the Meetings of the Learned Elders of Zion is an antisemitic hoax purporting to describe a Jewish plan for global domination. It was first published in Russia in 1903, translated into multiple languages, and disseminated internationally in the early part of the 20th century. Henry Ford funded printing of 500,000 copies that were distributed throughout the United States in the 1920s.

Adolf Hitler and the Nazis were major proponents of the text. It was studied, as if a factual document, in German classrooms after the Nazi Party came to power in 1933, despite having been exposed as fraudulent years before. In the opinion of historian Norman Cohn, the Protocols was Hitler's primary justification for initiating the Holocaust—his "warrant for genocide".[1]

The Protocols purports to document the minutes of a late 19th century meeting of Jewish leaders discussing their goal of global Jewish hegemony by subverting the morals of Gentiles, and by controlling the press and the world's economies. It is still widely available today—still presented, typically, as a genuine document—on the Internet and in print in numerous languages.

Falah - stop peddling your religious nonsense on Ozpolitics.
I don't know how you get away with it?

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Reply #23 - May 30^th, 2012 at 7:03pm

falah wrote on May 30^th, 2012 at 6:58pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 30^th, 2012 at 6:39pm:

Well 2 pages later I will leave this here for Falah.

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 30^th, 2012 at 5:39pm:

Falah please tell me what an atheist is.

Hint: an atheist is not a jew

SOB

Not necessarily, but he might have been brainwashed by one. How many people followed Jew Karl Marx and his ""Religion is the opium of the people" statement?

Falah if a jew brainwashed someone to anything it would be judaism. Judaism is a religion. Atheism isnt a belief. Its a lack of belief in a deity.

Got that Falah? Repeat after me so I know you heard it. Atheism is a lack of belief in a deity. Like not collecting stamps is not a hobby.

Say it Falah so I know you heard me.

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Reply #24 - May 30^th, 2012 at 8:46pm

falah wrote on May 30^th, 2012 at 5:20pm:

The Jews will tell you that is an elaborate hoax, but one of the goals mentioned in The Protocols of the Elders of Zion is to encourage atheism in order to facilitate their takeover of the world

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Chap. 14 The Destruction of Religion as a Prelude to the Rise of the Jewish God

Everything is a Jewish plot. Atheism is a Jewish plot. (this shows your native Islamic fear of and sense of inferiority towards the 'clever Jews'. Anything brainy is suspicious to the Islamic outlook and so the low-brows of sharia are sniffing plots everywhere) Is there anything that is not a Jewish plot??

No... wait! Everything is Allah's will.

No... wait.... it's all a Jewish plot.
No... wait.... It's insh'allah!
No... wait...

(and so on 'til death or apostasy, whichever comes first. This is a snippet of the constant buzz in Islamists' heads)

That's the thing with taking Islam seriously - it is impossible to keep life and Islam in focus simultaneously. Either reality or Islamist doctrine has to be violated. Islamist, of course, always line up against common sense, on principle.
The disinfectant light of normal reality is just incompatible with Islamist political doctrine. The constant jumping in and out of reality and unreconstructed pre-medieval stupidity just makes you guys ditzy.

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Reply #26 - May 30^th, 2012 at 10:59pm

falah wrote on May 30^th, 2012 at 6:58pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 30^th, 2012 at 6:39pm:

Well 2 pages later I will leave this here for Falah.

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 30^th, 2012 at 5:39pm:

Falah please tell me what an atheist is.

Hint: an atheist is not a jew

SOB

Not necessarily, but he might have been brainwashed by one. How many people followed Jew Karl Marx and his ""Religion is the opium of the people" statement?

Watch out for the filthy Yahud falah they might want to brainwash you as well.

I reckon you have been brainwashed by that Islam hogwash, the shahada starts off with "there is no god" and you must be blind because sura 4:82 even has the author of the Quran saing it is not from allah

I suggest you go to an atheist forum here is one it even has a section on that Islam delusion-
http://www.atheistforums.com/viewforum.php?f=20

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Reply #27 - May 31^st, 2012 at 9:34am

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Safran was born in Melbourne, Victoria. After attending North Balwyn Primary School he was sent to Yeshivah College, an Orthodox Jewish high school in St Kilda East...In August 2004 he debuted his new show John Safran vs God,

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/John_Safran.jpg/220px-J...

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Reply #28 - May 31^st, 2012 at 9:39am

falah wrote on May 31^st, 2012 at 9:34am:

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Safran was born in Melbourne, Victoria. After attending North Balwyn Primary School he was sent to Yeshivah College, an Orthodox Jewish high school in St Kilda East...In August 2004 he debuted his new show John Safran vs God,

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/John_Safran.jpg/220px-J...

That show wasn't anti religious he just went around trying lots of different religions and stuff

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Reply #29 - May 31^st, 2012 at 9:56am

I know the protocols of the elders of zion has been "proven" to be fake. What I don't know is who "proved" it, and how. Until that is known, I can't shut the book on it.

It's no secret Jews dominate the media and finance. It's no secret media and finance have incredible influence over society.

Put 2 and 2 together people.

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