Brian Ross wrote on Aug 31^st, 2020 at 5:22pm:

I believe the majority of Muslims adhere to Islam's repressive, backward, primitive tenets. Hijabis, niqabis, the bearded bruvves, the segregation, the paralysing defernce to the likes Hilali and his sucessors, etc, etc. 90% of them observe Ramadan. 70 % do the 5 prayers a day. They are seriously into Islam. They dress the part, they act the part. They sompathise with their martyrs for Allah.

The apostates are not counted as Muslims, true. It would be very interesting to ask in the next census: "what belief system have you abandoned in your life?"

If Islam is the question, apostasy is the only sane answer. The rest are lying doggo, as Bin Laden said, waiting to see which horse wins.

Frank wrote on Aug 31^st, 2020 at 6:41pm:


And your evidence for those figures comes from, where, exactly, Soren?

Why do only approximately 45% of Muslims in Australia regularly attend Mosques?  Why do so few women in Australia who claim to be Muslims wear Hijab or Niquab?   I'd suggest you are letting Islamophobia blind you to the reality of Islam.  Funny, that, hey, Soren?  Mmm?   

Brian Ross wrote on Aug 31^st, 2020 at 8:21pm:

Because they are not muslims.  They are lying doggo, waiting to see which way it goes and then side with the winners. They are not honest or brave enough to abandon Islam openly but they are spineless enough to tick the box even though they dont really believe it.

Opportunists. Islam encourages opportunism. Look at you. You are a spineless opportunist if ever there was one. Your every instinct is to be an Islamic opportunist - and you are a mere bitch-slapped Christian, slapped about for being a recalcitrant idiot! It turned you into a spineless, dishonest, lying opportunist.

It doesn't  bear imagining what you could have become if you were ENCOURAGED to be an opportunist, as Muslims are!!!

A Gandalf, at least.

freediver wrote on Jul 17^th, 2022 at 11:58am:


freediver wrote on Jul 17^th, 2022 at 12:33pm:


Future, how many Muslims did you speak to in order to know what the majority of the world's 2 billion Muslims think?

And did you actually ask any of them about their views on Islamic punishments for apostasy or homosexuality?

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How many?

And why do you call everyone Nazis and fascist with such gay abandon, but defend people who actually support the slaughter of Jews?

How many Muslims did you actually speak to in order to know what the majority of the world's 2 billion Muslims think?

And did you actually ask any of them about their views on Islamic punishments for apostasy or homosexuality?

And why do you call everyone Nazis and fascist with such gay abandon, but defend people who actually support the slaughter of Jews?

Muslims are NOT "just like us, wanting the same things as us".



What it was like asking for Salman Rushdie’s work in a Pakistan bookshop
Anonymous
As an aspiring writer I loved many exiled authors, from Márquez to Kundera, but with Rushdie the stakes were raised

Mon 15 Aug 2022 00.47 AEST

It was more than a decade ago when I was introduced to the work of Salman Rushdie, thanks to the recommendation of a writer in my homeland of Pakistan. As an aspiring writer myself, I was always told that to become really good, you have to “read, read and read”. Yet I often found I had already read the authors who were recommended to me, easily available as their works were in my country.

But when a writer insisted I must read Rushdie, the stakes were raised. I loved many writers living in exile, from Márquez to Kundera. But Rushdie was the first writer for me who had caused so much anger in the Muslim world and enraged some fanatics.

That his books were banned in my country and the mere mention of his name was thought to be a sin only increased my curiosity. As I was to discover, just getting hold of a copy of one of his works, let alone reading the texts, had become an illicit pleasure for many young people of my generation.

To access his books, someone recommended visiting a specific bookstore in Pakistan. In a hair-raising exchange that felt as though I were looking to buy illegal drugs, I went and whispered into the bookseller’s ear that I needed the books of Rushdie.

The bookseller responded that he would get me all the author’s books but each would cost at least 20,000 rupees (£75). The cost of The Satanic Verses would be triple, given the risk he was taking by selling it; in effect, the vendor said, a death sentence if caught.

I could not afford the cost, so I ended up reading Rushdie online. Then, during a foreign trip, I was finally able to buy hard copies.

On my way back to Pakistan, trying to wrap his books in my luggage so no one could discover them, I felt as if I was smuggling explosives. I asked myself: what if they catch me with his books? Will I be sentenced to life imprisonment? Anything can happen here; it is Pakistan, I murmured to myself.

But I didn’t have The Satanic Verses with me, and did not actually like the book. I am sure most of the fanatics who wished him dead have not actually read him. Certainly not his entire works – be it Midnight’s Children or Haroun and the Sea of Stories. Or his underrated masterpiece Shame, which I especially enjoyed and felt spoke so well about everything that is wrong with Pakistan.

Rushdie talks about arrests for the mere guilt of knowing a “wrong” person. He wrote down the story of a poet friend who spent many months in jail for “social reasons”. He writes: “That is to say he knew somebody who knew somebody who was the wife of the second cousin by marriage of the step-uncle of somebody who might or might not have shared a flat with someone who was running guns to the guerrillas in Baluchistan. You can get anywhere in Pakistan if you know people, even into the jail.”

https://amp.theguardian.com/books/2022/aug/14/satanic-verses-pakistan-bookshop-w
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