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61% of voters want Turnbull.
Jun 4^th, 2012 at 11:38am

It's now official. 61% of ALL voters would prefer Malcolm Turnbull to lead the Liberals. A lot of us here have been saying that for a long time, now it is confirmed 61% of voters agree. So its only the rusted on far right extremists that want Abbott.

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Today's poll results also brought some bad news for Opposition Leader Tony Abbott.

The Nielsen poll finds that former leader and communications spokesman Malcolm Turnbull is preferred as Coalition leader by 61 per cent of voters, compared with 34 per cent for Mr Abbott.

Mr Abbott's personal approval also fell 5 points to 39 per cent, while his disapproval rose 5 points to 57 per cent.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/political-news/gillard-will-absolutely-stay-as-leader-20120604-1zqth.html#ixzz1wmgWkNjy

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Maqqa Gold Member Offline 14% - that low?! Posts: 16000	Re: 61% of voters want Turnbull. Reply #1 - Jun 4^th, 2012 at 11:40am I wonder how many of the 61% are Labor voters hoping Turnbull comeback in to save Gillard?
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Re: 61% of voters want Turnbull.
Reply #2 - Jun 4^th, 2012 at 11:40am

Malcolm Turnbull would be an excellent PM.

He and I are at opposite ends of the scale on the Republic/Monarchy issue - but his economic policies and views on the way forward for the country and in sync with mine.

He's a market capitalist with a social safety net kind of guy.
Like I am.

If we can park the Monarchy issue to one side, Turnbull get's my full support.

I cannot warm to Abbott.
I think he is an excellent Opposition attack dog - one of the best - but I just don't see him as a PM.

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Reply #3 - Jun 4^th, 2012 at 11:41am

Maqqa wrote on Jun 4^th, 2012 at 11:40am:

I wonder how many of the 61% are Labor voters hoping Turnbull comeback in to save Gillard?

I would be one of the 61% Macca.
I have never voted for Labor and I wouldn't want anyone to save Gillard.

I hope she does stay on to go to the polls.
I think politicians should feel the wrath of the people when they so blatantly disregard their wishes as she has done with a carbon tax.

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Reply #4 - Jun 4^th, 2012 at 11:43am

Yes, sure do. As I have said time and again, I will most likely be donkey voting at the next election. There's no way I'm voting Green or Labor, but I don't see myself voting for an Abbott-led Coalition, either. A shame, because I always really valued my vote.

Put Turnbull there, and the Libs will be getting my vote, 100%.

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Reply #6 - Jun 4^th, 2012 at 11:45am

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 4^th, 2012 at 11:41am:

Maqqa wrote on Jun 4^th, 2012 at 11:40am:

I wonder how many of the 61% are Labor voters hoping Turnbull comeback in to save Gillard?

I would be one of the 61% Macca.
I have never voted for Labor and I wouldn't want anyone to save Gillard.

I hope she does stay on to go to the polls.
I think politicians should feel the wrath of the people when they so blatantly disregard their wishes as she has done with a carbon tax.

I have always favored Turnbull until he started to implement the Carbon Tax - which is why he was challenged by Abbott.

If the LIBs had a vote today - I doubt Turnbull would get the numbers.

The whole LIB party is now united behind this anti-carbon tax stance which resulted in the 57/43 TPP.

Given Turnbull's pro-carbon tax stance there's no way he will be back in. It will give Labor a platform to launch their next election.

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Re: 61% of voters want Turnbull.
Reply #7 - Jun 4^th, 2012 at 11:46am

Maqqa wrote on Jun 4^th, 2012 at 11:45am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 4^th, 2012 at 11:41am:

Maqqa wrote on Jun 4^th, 2012 at 11:40am:

I wonder how many of the 61% are Labor voters hoping Turnbull comeback in to save Gillard?

I would be one of the 61% Macca.
I have never voted for Labor and I wouldn't want anyone to save Gillard.

I hope she does stay on to go to the polls.
I think politicians should feel the wrath of the people when they so blatantly disregard their wishes as she has done with a carbon tax.

I have always favored Turnbull until he started to implement the Carbon Tax - which is why he was challenged by Abbott.

If the LIBs had a vote today - I doubt Turnbull would get the numbers.

The whole LIB party is now united behind this anti-carbon tax stance which resulted in the 57/43 TPP.

Given Turnbull's pro-carbon tax stance there's no way he will be back in. It will give Labor a platform to launch their next election.

No, he's not. He is in favour of an ETS, not a carbon tax. He voted against it, Maqqa.

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Andrei.Hicks Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 23818 Carlsbad, CA Gender:	Re: 61% of voters want Turnbull. Reply #8 - Jun 4^th, 2012 at 11:47am But to be fair Turnbull is not in favour of a carbon tax either. He favours a trading scheme which would see the price way down around what the EU has?
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Reply #10 - Jun 4^th, 2012 at 11:48am

john_g wrote on Jun 4^th, 2012 at 11:46am:

Maqqa wrote on Jun 4^th, 2012 at 11:45am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 4^th, 2012 at 11:41am:

Maqqa wrote on Jun 4^th, 2012 at 11:40am:

I wonder how many of the 61% are Labor voters hoping Turnbull comeback in to save Gillard?

I would be one of the 61% Macca.
I have never voted for Labor and I wouldn't want anyone to save Gillard.

I hope she does stay on to go to the polls.
I think politicians should feel the wrath of the people when they so blatantly disregard their wishes as she has done with a carbon tax.

I have always favored Turnbull until he started to implement the Carbon Tax - which is why he was challenged by Abbott.

If the LIBs had a vote today - I doubt Turnbull would get the numbers.

The whole LIB party is now united behind this anti-carbon tax stance which resulted in the 57/43 TPP.

Given Turnbull's pro-carbon tax stance there's no way he will be back in. It will give Labor a platform to launch their next election.

No, he's not. He is in favour of an ETS, not a carbon tax. He voted against it, Maqqa.

Thanks john - many on the left do not understand the difference especially when it impacts their political allegiance

The carbon tax will eventually transition to an ETS anyway.

But Labor will not care - they will seize the opportunity and paint Turnbull with the same brush

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Reply #11 - Jun 4^th, 2012 at 11:50am

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 4^th, 2012 at 11:47am:

But to be fair Turnbull is not in favour of a carbon tax either.

He favours a trading scheme which would see the price way down around what the EU has?

yes - but most Australian wouldn't know this.

Labor will seize upon this ignorance and use it to tell Australians that the LIBs have voted in a leader that supports a Carbon Tax

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Re: 61% of voters want Turnbull.
Reply #12 - Jun 4^th, 2012 at 11:50am

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Given Turnbull's pro-carbon tax stance there's no way he will be back in. It will give Labor a platform to launch their next election.

Never say he wont be back. If Gillard is dumped, and I think she will be, so will Abbott be. Because no matter what spin you put on it, Rudd will beat Abbott,and the Libs know it. Turnbull will be the Libs only choice, IF they want government. Abbott NEVER beat Rudd as preferred PM and the Libs were NEVER ahead on TPP under Rudd, thems the facts.

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Re: 61% of voters want Turnbull.
Reply #13 - Jun 4^th, 2012 at 11:50am

Maqqa wrote on Jun 4^th, 2012 at 11:48am:

john_g wrote on Jun 4^th, 2012 at 11:46am:

Maqqa wrote on Jun 4^th, 2012 at 11:45am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 4^th, 2012 at 11:41am:

Maqqa wrote on Jun 4^th, 2012 at 11:40am:

I wonder how many of the 61% are Labor voters hoping Turnbull comeback in to save Gillard?

I would be one of the 61% Macca.
I have never voted for Labor and I wouldn't want anyone to save Gillard.

I hope she does stay on to go to the polls.
I think politicians should feel the wrath of the people when they so blatantly disregard their wishes as she has done with a carbon tax.

I have always favored Turnbull until he started to implement the Carbon Tax - which is why he was challenged by Abbott.

If the LIBs had a vote today - I doubt Turnbull would get the numbers.

The whole LIB party is now united behind this anti-carbon tax stance which resulted in the 57/43 TPP.

Given Turnbull's pro-carbon tax stance there's no way he will be back in. It will give Labor a platform to launch their next election.

No, he's not. He is in favour of an ETS, not a carbon tax. He voted against it, Maqqa.

Thanks john - many on the left do not understand the difference especially when it impacts their political allegiance

The carbon tax will eventually transition to an ETS anyway.

But Labor will not care - they will seize the opportunity and paint Turnbull with the same brush

Hopefully the Libs are in, and repeal it, before it has the chance to go to an ETS.

If Labor are re-elected, the carbon tax won't transition until 2015.

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Gist Gold Member Offline I am not a sock, I am a human being! Posts: 5476	Re: 61% of voters want Turnbull. Reply #14 - Jun 4^th, 2012 at 11:51am Maqqa wrote on Jun 4^th, 2012 at 11:40am: I wonder how many of the 61% are Labor voters hoping Turnbull comeback in to save Gillard? That's a good thing for you isn't it? If you want to win outright, don't you NEED votes from people who voted Labor last time?
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