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Reply #75 - Jun 10th, 2012 at 2:51pm
 
abu_rashid wrote on Jun 10th, 2012 at 2:49pm:
No... you are confused.

You are a European, who has invaded someone's home in the Middle East.



No. I am Israeli. From a people who belong in the Holy Land and were there before any body else.

Should Aussies give the land to Aborigines?
Should Americans give the land to Indians?

We were there first. We suffer holocaust of millions of deaths, My grandparents from Prague is put into camp by the Nazis so they leave after war and is invited by Ben Gurion home.

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Reply #76 - Jun 10th, 2012 at 2:57pm
 
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I've provided plenty of links, my guess is you haven't read a single one.


Going by your inability to make a rational argument for why it was illegal for Jews to migrate to Israel, they don't seem to have much to offer. Posting a link is a good way to back up your argument, but is no substitute for demonstrating your ability to think for yourself.

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Does every nation on earth have an entire nation of people exiled in refugee camps in every direction around them?


You are right, it is unusual for a nation to survive an attack from every neighbouring nation and consistent ongoing attacks from people who will only accept death or the destruction of the nation. Can you explain why those nations tried to hard to destroy Israel, yet not a single one wants Palestine or the Palestinian people?

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The point is the only nations ever to recognise it, were those who were established for the purpose of recognising it.


Wow. This conspiracy certainly goes back a long way. Who'd have though all those nations would be created so far in advance merely to acknowledge the existence of something that did not yet exist at the time? Did you get this theory from the protocols?

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No nation around it recognises it out of its own free will


That's what losing a war feels like. It is hard to deny the existence of a nation you foolishly attacked and lost to.

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Something like that. More than likely though I think they'll just flee back to their homelands, and no war will be necessary.


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What homeland?

Falah:

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Since 1985, Israel has lost about 5 million km2 to Hizbullah and Hamasand other Muslim groups.


So why do you and all the others complain so bitterly about Israel continuing to take more land? Are these just more lies from the Muslim propaganda machine? Are you trying to play the victim card and the glorious victor card at the same time?
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Reply #77 - Jun 11th, 2012 at 10:47am
 
Palestinians are liars.

I know this from personal experience.
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Reply #78 - Jun 11th, 2012 at 10:59am
 
Avram Horowitz wrote on Jun 10th, 2012 at 2:51pm:
abu_rashid wrote on Jun 10th, 2012 at 2:49pm:
No... you are confused.

You are a European, who has invaded someone's home in the Middle East.



No. I am Israeli. From a people who belong in the Holy Land and were there before any body else.

Should Aussies give the land to Aborigines?
Should Americans give the land to Indians?

We were there first. We suffer holocaust of millions of deaths, My grandparents from Prague is put into camp by the Nazis so they leave after war and is invited by Ben Gurion home.



Actually according to your logic yes aussies should give australia to the aboriginals and americans should give america to the indians.

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Re: How Islam Saved The Jews
Reply #79 - Jun 11th, 2012 at 12:09pm
 
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 11th, 2012 at 10:59am:
Actually according to your logic yes aussies should give australia to the aboriginals and americans should give america to the indians.


Don't count on Avraham actually realising he just made the case against himself.
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Reply #80 - Jun 11th, 2012 at 12:28pm
 
abu_rashid wrote on Jun 10th, 2012 at 2:02pm:
Ok so nothing for you to worry about, go back to your dreary old miserable life and stop concerning yourself with the affairs of Muslims.

By your own admission we cannot amount to anything, so you are safe, carry on then.



Believe me, I would love to be oblivious to Muslims beyond bellydancing and fantastic tales of flying carpets.  But the bvggers never cease get into our faces and push their primitive and aggressive and stupid ideology onto us. We might not be much interested in Muslims and Islam but they are interested in us.
I'd love you all to go to your 'Muslim lands' and live there. 
Over here you are nothing but trouble.



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Reply #81 - Jun 11th, 2012 at 12:47pm
 
Soren wrote on Jun 11th, 2012 at 12:28pm:
abu_rashid wrote on Jun 10th, 2012 at 2:02pm:
Ok so nothing for you to worry about, go back to your dreary old miserable life and stop concerning yourself with the affairs of Muslims.

By your own admission we cannot amount to anything, so you are safe, carry on then.



Believe me, I would love to be oblivious to Muslims beyond bellydancing and fantastic tales of flying carpets.  But the bvggers never cease get into our faces and push their primitive and aggressive and stupid ideology onto us. We might not be much interested in Muslims and Islam but they are interested in us.
I'd love you all to go to your 'Muslim lands' and live there. 
Over here you are nothing but trouble.



Oh? How are they in your face? Do they knock on your door and try to convert you? Do they accost you in the street and tell you you will go to hell if you dont go to their church? Do they hand you pieces of paper when you are trying to shop? Is their religious crap all over the tv on sunday and is their "god" mentioned all the time in the media? do they attempt to brainwash your kids @ school with their religion?

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Reply #82 - Jun 11th, 2012 at 12:48pm
 
We both know this isn't the case.

We both know full well that the reason the West & Muslims are coming into conflict are to do with the West's insatiable greed for what is buried under the Muslim lands. Muslims are not safe to simply keep to themselves in their lands, because the West's armies are crawling all over them, devising new ways to control and harvest them every breathing moment they get.

Also we both know the West is scared of how powerful a belief system Islam is. The West is scared of how many of their own people reject their dead-end ideology, and instead are turning to Islam. This is what scares people like you the most. Your own son or daughter might become a Muslim and reject your destructive way of life, and attempt to guide you to the truth, of which you have turned your back on.

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Reply #83 - Jun 11th, 2012 at 12:55pm
 
abu_rashid wrote on Jun 11th, 2012 at 12:09pm:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 11th, 2012 at 10:59am:
Actually according to your logic yes aussies should give australia to the aboriginals and americans should give america to the indians.


Don't count on Avraham actually realising he just made the case against himself.



it does.
We were in the Holy Land first and God Himself gave us the land.

So it does say it should be us by this logic.
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Reply #84 - Jun 11th, 2012 at 12:57pm
 
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 11th, 2012 at 12:47pm:
Soren wrote on Jun 11th, 2012 at 12:28pm:
abu_rashid wrote on Jun 10th, 2012 at 2:02pm:
Ok so nothing for you to worry about, go back to your dreary old miserable life and stop concerning yourself with the affairs of Muslims.

By your own admission we cannot amount to anything, so you are safe, carry on then.



Believe me, I would love to be oblivious to Muslims beyond bellydancing and fantastic tales of flying carpets.  But the bvggers never cease get into our faces and push their primitive and aggressive and stupid ideology onto us. We might not be much interested in Muslims and Islam but they are interested in us.
I'd love you all to go to your 'Muslim lands' and live there. 
Over here you are nothing but trouble.



Oh? How are they in your face? Do they knock on your door and try to convert you? Do they accost you in the street and tell you you will go to hell if you dont go to their church? Do they hand you pieces of paper when you are trying to shop? Is their religious crap all over the tv on sunday and is their "god" mentioned all the time in the media? do they attempt to brainwash your kids @ school with their religion?

SOB



Muslims are aggressive.

You can even see it in the unsaid words.

See the immigration office in Sydney.

Two Arabs sit close to my friend and myself. We can see their face as they view the documents in my hand and they see passport with "State of Israel" on front of our books.

You should see their face. You can see what they are thinking.

They have burning hatred of the Jews. We can see it in their eyes.
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Reply #85 - Jun 11th, 2012 at 1:00pm
 
Avram Horowitz wrote on Jun 11th, 2012 at 12:55pm:
abu_rashid wrote on Jun 11th, 2012 at 12:09pm:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 11th, 2012 at 10:59am:
Actually according to your logic yes aussies should give australia to the aboriginals and americans should give america to the indians.


Don't count on Avraham actually realising he just made the case against himself.



it does.
We were in the Holy Land first and God Himself gave us the land.

So it does say it should be us by this logic.


Where is this supposed "god" now? Why isnt he fixing your problems?

SOB
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Reply #86 - Jun 11th, 2012 at 1:01pm
 
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Muslims are aggressive.


And the jews are not?

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Reply #87 - Jun 11th, 2012 at 1:03pm
 
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 11th, 2012 at 1:00pm:
Avram Horowitz wrote on Jun 11th, 2012 at 12:55pm:
abu_rashid wrote on Jun 11th, 2012 at 12:09pm:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 11th, 2012 at 10:59am:
Actually according to your logic yes aussies should give australia to the aboriginals and americans should give america to the indians.


Don't count on Avraham actually realising he just made the case against himself.



it does.
We were in the Holy Land first and God Himself gave us the land.

So it does say it should be us by this logic.


Where is this supposed "god" now? Why isnt he fixing your problems?

SOB


He gives us the belief to fix our own problems.
He gives us the strength to defend our land and battle as the little nation against evil.
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Reply #88 - Jun 11th, 2012 at 1:05pm
 
Avram Horowitz wrote on Jun 11th, 2012 at 1:03pm:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 11th, 2012 at 1:00pm:
Avram Horowitz wrote on Jun 11th, 2012 at 12:55pm:
abu_rashid wrote on Jun 11th, 2012 at 12:09pm:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 11th, 2012 at 10:59am:
Actually according to your logic yes aussies should give australia to the aboriginals and americans should give america to the indians.


Don't count on Avraham actually realising he just made the case against himself.



it does.
We were in the Holy Land first and God Himself gave us the land.

So it does say it should be us by this logic.


Where is this supposed "god" now? Why isnt he fixing your problems?

SOB


He gives us the belief to fix our own problems.
He gives us the strength to defend our land and battle as the little nation against evil.


Obviously not a peaceful god

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Reply #89 - Jun 11th, 2012 at 1:07pm
 
It is us that offers the peace.

Do you know we pulled out of Gaza on our own free will.

We were tired of waiting for the Palestinians to agree the terms so we just leave.

What happens?

Gun battles between Fatah and Hamas for control and they start fighting each other and killing each other.

So tell me - who is it that wants peace?
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