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Question: Bigger liar.

Gillard.    
  1 (7.7%)
O'Farrell.    
  10 (76.9%)
Both as bad as each other.    
  2 (15.4%)




Total votes: 13
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Re: Who's the bigger liar - Gillard or O'Farrell?
Reply #15 - Jun 6th, 2012 at 3:03pm
 
john_g wrote on Jun 6th, 2012 at 2:59pm:
adelcrow wrote on Jun 6th, 2012 at 2:54pm:
By this time next year the Liberal states will so so sick of being lied to by their premiers that Gillard will look like a saviour


Adel, are you on here to just take the piss?


You dont agree?
Why not?
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Re: Who's the bigger liar - Gillard or O'Farrell?
Reply #16 - Jun 6th, 2012 at 3:06pm
 
TheGreenLight wrote on Jun 6th, 2012 at 3:02pm:
I am not from NSW, can someone please enlighten me - what are O'Farrell's lies? Like I have stated before, Gillard's lie is not bad at all. She has clearly become aware, thanks in most part to the Greens, that climate change is real, and we need to take positive action on it. She may have lied, but it's for our own good, and the good of the nation. I am confident that most Australians will come to see that, and Labor will be elected next election. Hopefully we will have another Labor/Green government. That would be great, and a positive step forward for Australia.


Well the latest one was he went to the election promising not to sell the power generators.

He also promised not to allow hunting in national parks.

He just now did a deal with The Shooters Party in the Upper House which allows him to sell the Power Generators in exchange for allowing shooting in National Parks  Cheesy
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Re: Who's the bigger liar - Gillard or O'Farrell?
Reply #17 - Jun 6th, 2012 at 3:50pm
 
I think neither.

While O'farrell's performance has been dismal to this point I do not think he has been any less honest than you would expect from a Liberal.
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Re: Who's the bigger liar - Gillard or O'Farrell?
Reply #18 - Jun 6th, 2012 at 3:56pm
 
I give allowances for those not long in govt.. I think two years is ample.. lets face it..it takes me that long to move into a new home..ha.ha.. well almost.


anyway I think in all fairness you need to give some examples of what you mean..

gillard has been in power 5 years.. she was in power over 3 years when she made the biggest lie of the century..

she did have an enormous amount of advisers and back up.. to tell her NO NO NO Juliia..when she pulled the wool over everyones eyes..

when someone tell you you will have transparency in gvt..... one kind of looks forward to that
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Re: Who's the bigger liar - Gillard or O'Farrell?
Reply #19 - Jun 6th, 2012 at 3:57pm
 
Dnarever wrote on Jun 6th, 2012 at 3:50pm:
I think neither.

While O'farrell's performance has been dismal to this point I do not think he has been any less honest than you would expect from a Liberal.




yes he hasnt been brilliant.. but what has a liberal got to do with it..


I bet if anyone keeps stats.. the Labs would win hands down when it comes to broken promises and lies..

I dont recall Howard getting a tongue lashing after the GST election????
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Reply #20 - Jun 6th, 2012 at 4:15pm
 
TheGreenLight wrote on Jun 6th, 2012 at 3:02pm:
I am not from NSW, can someone please enlighten me - what are O'Farrell's lies? Like I have stated before, Gillard's lie is not bad at all. She has clearly become aware, thanks in most part to the Greens, that climate change is real, and we need to take positive action on it. She may have lied, but it's for our own good, and the good of the nation. I am confident that most Australians will come to see that, and Labor will be elected next election. Hopefully we will have another Labor/Green government. That would be great, and a positive step forward for Australia.


This was in one of Sydney papers just after the NSW election

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The Australia Democrats tradition of “Keeping the bastard honest.” So how about a thread of “Keeping Barry honest”

Here are 12 things that Barry O’Farrell and the Liberal Party promise before the election. Let mark off any that they back-down on, do back flips on, retreats on because of no money left by Labor, flip-flops or wimp out on for any other reason.

1)      “We are not closing schools, hospital or planning massive privatisation or job cuts.”

2)      “We will not cut the number of public holidays in NSW.”

3)      “We don’t have a default position that says privatisation is in our blood.”

4)      “There are no plans to hire Peter Costello, Gary Stugess or Ken Baxter.”

5)      100,000 jobs will be “targeted” for creation under Jobs Action Plan.

6)      Work on the north-west rail line will begin in the first term.

7)      As the economy improves there will be a need for “more, not less” public sector jobs to fix NSW.

8)      Family members of politicians will not be hire to work in ministerial offices.

9)      The coalition will depoliticise appointments to the senior ranks of the public service.

10)      Train fares will be cut by more then $100 a year.

11)      The old politics of smear and fear and untruths is in the past.

12)      No offshore outsourcing of public sector jobs or services.
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Re: Who's the bigger liar - Gillard or O'Farrell?
Reply #21 - Jun 6th, 2012 at 4:21pm
 
cods wrote on Jun 6th, 2012 at 3:56pm:
I give allowances for those not long in govt.. I think two years is ample.. lets face it..it takes me that long to move into a new home..ha.ha.. well almost.


anyway I think in all fairness you need to give some examples of what you mean..

gillard has been in power 5 years.. she was in power over 3 years when she made the biggest lie of the century..
she did have an enormous amount of advisers and back up.. to tell her NO NO NO Juliia..when she pulled the wool over everyones eyes..

when someone tell you you will have transparency in gvt..... one kind of looks forward to that


she made the biggest lie of the century..


Was barely a lie at all and certainly not the biggest lie even for that week.
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Re: Who's the bigger liar - Gillard or O'Farrell?
Reply #22 - Jun 6th, 2012 at 4:25pm
 
cods wrote on Jun 6th, 2012 at 3:57pm:
Dnarever wrote on Jun 6th, 2012 at 3:50pm:
I think neither.

While O'farrell's performance has been dismal to this point I do not think he has been any less honest than you would expect from a Liberal.




yes he hasnt been brilliant.. but what has a liberal got to do with it..


I bet if anyone keeps stats.. the Labs would win hands down when it comes to broken promises and lies..

I dont recall Howard getting a tongue lashing after the GST election????



It was his own mates who called him a lying rodent and he was very often cynically refered to as honest John.

He is best known for coining the term non core promise, which means election promises which you do not have to keep.
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Re: Who's the bigger liar - Gillard or O'Farrell?
Reply #23 - Jun 6th, 2012 at 4:27pm
 
john_g wrote on Jun 6th, 2012 at 2:59pm:
adelcrow wrote on Jun 6th, 2012 at 2:54pm:
By this time next year the Liberal states will so so sick of being lied to by their premiers that Gillard will look like a saviour


Adel, are you on here to just take the piss?



Adel is here all day because his mail order bride took him to the cleaners. All she left him with was his old Windows 95 computer.
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Re: Who's the bigger liar - Gillard or O'Farrell?
Reply #24 - Jun 6th, 2012 at 4:27pm
 
Dnarever wrote on Jun 6th, 2012 at 4:21pm:
cods wrote on Jun 6th, 2012 at 3:56pm:
I give allowances for those not long in govt.. I think two years is ample.. lets face it..it takes me that long to move into a new home..ha.ha.. well almost.


anyway I think in all fairness you need to give some examples of what you mean..

gillard has been in power 5 years.. she was in power over 3 years when she made the biggest lie of the century..
she did have an enormous amount of advisers and back up.. to tell her NO NO NO Juliia..when she pulled the wool over everyones eyes..

when someone tell you you will have transparency in gvt..... one kind of looks forward to that


she made the biggest lie of the century..


Was barely a lie at all and certainly not the biggest lie even for that week.


Which century was the WMD lie made?
What century was the children overboard lie made?
What century did Abbott lie and claim a carbon tax was the best way to battle CO2 pollution?
Which century did Abbott lie about the carbon tax ruining this country and its economy?
Which century did Abbott lie about the NBN being a white elephant?
Which century did Abbott lie about the mining super profits tax driving miners away?
Gillards lie was nothing compared to Abbotts litany of lies
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Re: Who's the bigger liar - Gillard or O'Farrell?
Reply #25 - Jun 6th, 2012 at 4:36pm
 
john_g wrote on Jun 6th, 2012 at 1:50pm:
adelcrow wrote on Jun 6th, 2012 at 1:49pm:
john_g wrote on Jun 6th, 2012 at 1:48pm:
Who would you say? Both have proven to be nothing but bluff and out and out liars.


Abbott


This isn't about Abbott. I was expecting such a reply. He's never been the leader of a state, or nation.


I also vote Abbott ... and he is the leader of a party .....
i know, the liberal party barely rates as anything worthwhile, but nevertheless they are a political party and therefore should be held accountable for what they say
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Re: Who's the bigger liar - Gillard or O'Farrell?
Reply #26 - Jun 6th, 2012 at 5:20pm
 
Dnarever wrote on Jun 6th, 2012 at 3:50pm:
I think neither.

While O'farrell's performance has been dismal to this point I do not think he has been any less honest than you would expect from a Liberal.


To be honest, just off the cuff I can't think of too many promises O'Farell has broken. Mind you, that's probably because he's hardly DONE anything.

I was hopeful he'd be OK but allowing shooting in national parks has meant the hope is withering.
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Reply #27 - Jun 6th, 2012 at 5:21pm
 
cods wrote on Jun 6th, 2012 at 3:56pm:
I give allowances for those not long in govt.. I think two years is ample.. lets face it..it takes me that long to move into a new home..ha.ha.. well almost.


anyway I think in all fairness you need to give some examples of what you mean..

gillard has been in power 5 years.. she was in power over 3 years when she made the biggest lie of the century..

she did have an enormous amount of advisers and back up.. to tell her NO NO NO Juliia..when she pulled the wool over everyones eyes..

when someone tell you you will have transparency in gvt..... one kind of looks forward to that


You must have been asleep the rest of the century !!!!!

you rate that worse than children overboard? she had to change her stance because of the way the election ended .. if she had won on her own right we would be unlikely to get a carbon tax

John Howard on the other hand came up with a con job to try and turn the polls around .. he deliberately fabricated the whole story ...  he made it up, he lied about it and he continued to lie ...
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Reply #28 - Jun 6th, 2012 at 5:26pm
 
Dnarever wrote on Jun 6th, 2012 at 4:21pm:
cods wrote on Jun 6th, 2012 at 3:56pm:
I give allowances for those not long in govt.. I think two years is ample.. lets face it..it takes me that long to move into a new home..ha.ha.. well almost.


anyway I think in all fairness you need to give some examples of what you mean..

gillard has been in power 5 years.. she was in power over 3 years when she made the biggest lie of the century..
she did have an enormous amount of advisers and back up.. to tell her NO NO NO Juliia..when she pulled the wool over everyones eyes..

when someone tell you you will have transparency in gvt..... one kind of looks forward to that


she made the biggest lie of the century..


Was barely a lie at all and certainly not the biggest lie even for that week.




well dna your wife must be able to pull the wool over your eyes very easily..

well said as I have said before gillard needs all the support she can get..

you are one of a few that really feels that way.. my daughters neighbours very left of lef.t. are horrified by this woman.. they feel completely let down.....AND LIED TOO.
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Reply #29 - Jun 6th, 2012 at 5:28pm
 
John Smith wrote on Jun 6th, 2012 at 5:21pm:
cods wrote on Jun 6th, 2012 at 3:56pm:
I give allowances for those not long in govt.. I think two years is ample.. lets face it..it takes me that long to move into a new home..ha.ha.. well almost.


anyway I think in all fairness you need to give some examples of what you mean..

gillard has been in power 5 years.. she was in power over 3 years when she made the biggest lie of the century..

she did have an enormous amount of advisers and back up.. to tell her NO NO NO Juliia..when she pulled the wool over everyones eyes..

when someone tell you you will have transparency in gvt..... one kind of looks forward to that


You must have been asleep the rest of the century !!!!!

you rate that worse than children overboard? she had to change her stance because of the way the election ended .. if she had won on her own right we would be unlikely to get a carbon tax

John Howard on the other hand came up with a con job to try and turn the polls around .. he deliberately fabricated the whole story ...  he made it up, he lied about it and he continued to lie ...




can you produce the evidence where he fabricated that statement.. thank you???

you dont think anyone was conned with the

THERE WILL BE NO CARBON TAX UNDER A GOVT I LEAD
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