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Re: Islamophobophobia: Politically Correct Persecution
Reply #90 - Jul 31^st, 2012 at 12:29pm

Yadda wrote on Jul 31^st, 2012 at 12:12pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 31^st, 2012 at 5:38am:

Why would you call me a "lefty" and what is a "collectivist"? Your definition please.

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Collectivism, the practice of giving priority to..
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1343700582/0#0

Not a link, your definition. What did YOU mean by it.

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Re: Islamophobophobia: Politically Correct Persecution
Reply #91 - Jul 31^st, 2012 at 12:37pm

Yadda wrote on Jul 31^st, 2012 at 10:48am:

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And moslems [AS ALWAYS] are fighting to take possession of something which is not theirs.

I dont know about muslims since there are plenty in australia not fighting for anything and in america and in other countries but the palestinians are fighting in self defence.

SPOT,

Moslems [by definition], must come into conflict with those who are not moslems.

That is the undeniable truth.

Study their Mohammedan philosophy.

SPOT,

YOU ARE LIVING A LIFE, IN DENIAL.
YOU REJECT THE TRUTH - WHENEVER TRUTH DOES NOT ALIGN WITH, AND SUPPORT, YOUR OPINION.
AND YOUR CONTENTION IS THAT; YOU ARE CORRECT, ....AND EVERYONE ELSE IS WRONG.
YOU INSIST THAT YOU ARE CORRECT, .....EVEN WHEN >> WHAT IS APPARENT << DOES NOT ALIGN WITH, AND SUPPORT, YOUR OPINION.
YOU ARE LIVING IN DENIAL.

Yadda said,
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Moslems [by definition], must come into conflict with those who are not moslems.

An example from France;

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France: Muslims who attacked police refused to recognize French law

As the number of Muslims in France and other Western countries continues to rise, we will see more and more of this rejection of Infidel law. Muslims will demand more and more accommodation to Sharia, and increasingly ignore the laws of the secular society -- and once their numbers grow large enough, some of these Muslims will attempt to impose Sharia in its entirety upon the Infidel polity.

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2012/07/france-muslims-who-attacked-police-refused-to-...

Hey SPOT,

She [this French moslem woman] was a 'Palestinian'.

So she was obviously 'justified'.

Right ?

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
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Re: Islamophobophobia: Politically Correct Persecution
Reply #92 - Jul 31^st, 2012 at 12:40pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 31^st, 2012 at 12:29pm:

Yadda wrote on Jul 31^st, 2012 at 12:12pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 31^st, 2012 at 5:38am:

Why would you call me a "lefty" and what is a "collectivist"? Your definition please.

SOB

Collectivism, the practice of giving priority to..
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1343700582/0#0

Not a link, your definition. What did YOU mean by it.

SOB

If you want to know, then follow the link.

Duh.

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Re: Islamophobophobia: Politically Correct Persecution
Reply #93 - Jul 31^st, 2012 at 1:03pm

So you are saying that because i dont think the israelis are being fair to the palestinians i must think palestinians can do no wrong? What kind of dick are you? Oh i know a whacko kooky religious black and white dick. No middle ground black or white thats it.

YADDA,

YOU ARE LIVING A LIFE, IN DENIAL.
YOU REJECT THE TRUTH - WHENEVER TRUTH DOES NOT ALIGN WITH, AND SUPPORT, YOUR OPINION.
AND YOUR CONTENTION IS THAT; YOU ARE CORRECT, ....AND EVERYONE ELSE IS WRONG.
YOU INSIST THAT YOU ARE CORRECT, .....EVEN WHEN >> WHAT IS APPARENT << DOES NOT ALIGN WITH, AND SUPPORT, YOUR OPINION.
YOU ARE LIVING IN DENIAL.

Meanwhile why dont you want to explain what you meant by "collectivism" is it because you know it wasnt appropriate?

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Re: Islamophobophobia: Politically Correct Persecution
Reply #94 - Jul 31^st, 2012 at 1:47pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 31^st, 2012 at 1:03pm:

So you are saying that because i dont think the israelis are being fair to the palestinians i must think palestinians can do no wrong?

What kind of dick are you? Oh i know a whacko kooky religious black and white dick. No middle ground black or white thats it.

YADDA,

YOU ARE LIVING A LIFE, IN DENIAL.
YOU REJECT THE TRUTH - WHENEVER TRUTH DOES NOT ALIGN WITH, AND SUPPORT, YOUR OPINION.
AND YOUR CONTENTION IS THAT; YOU ARE CORRECT, ....AND EVERYONE ELSE IS WRONG.
YOU INSIST THAT YOU ARE CORRECT, .....EVEN WHEN >> WHAT IS APPARENT << DOES NOT ALIGN WITH, AND SUPPORT, YOUR OPINION.
YOU ARE LIVING IN DENIAL.

Meanwhile why dont you want to explain what you meant by "collectivism" is it because you know it wasnt appropriate?

SOB

You can't beat my argument, you refuse to address the truth of the issue [....moslem supremacism and violence],

.....so now its disparagement, and abuse of someone who's opinion does not align with your opinion, because, as always, ....
"YOU ARE CORRECT, ....AND EVERYONE ELSE IS WRONG."

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49403 At my desk.	Re: Islamophobophobia: Politically Correct Persecution Reply #95 - Jul 31^st, 2012 at 1:52pm Spot always resorts to insults when he has lost an argument. I think he picked that trick up from Abu.
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Yadda Gold Member Offline Posts: 21894 A cat with a view	Re: Islamophobophobia: Politically Correct Persecution Reply #96 - Jul 31^st, 2012 at 2:01pm freediver wrote on Jul 31^st, 2012 at 1:52pm: Spot always resorts to insults when he has lost an argument. I think he picked that trick up from Abu. That is a moslem trait, which you will witness in all public forums [...which moslems do not control].
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Re: Islamophobophobia: Politically Correct Persecution
Reply #97 - Jul 31^st, 2012 at 2:24pm

Yadda wrote on Jul 31^st, 2012 at 2:01pm:

freediver wrote on Jul 31^st, 2012 at 1:52pm:

Spot always resorts to insults when he has lost an argument. I think he picked that trick up from Abu.

That is a moslem trait, which you will witness in all public forums [...which moslems do not control].

WTF you 2 just crap on without any substance. Freediver twists things and yadda just doesnt address anything @ all just goes on about how everyone is wrong except him. Seriously you guys are weird.

Yadda WTF is it you think is your point? That all ;muslims are bad? Well not all of them are bad. Not unless all xtians are bad too. You are an extremist though so you are bad. You need to be locked away where you wont be a danger to other ppl and yourself. Voices getting louder?

You are so scared of psychiatric drugs i have to wonder if you are supposed to be taking them and you arent. Try it - you never know you might feel better and think clearer.

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Re: Islamophobophobia: Politically Correct Persecution
Reply #98 - Jul 31^st, 2012 at 2:59pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 31^st, 2012 at 2:24pm:

Yadda WTF is it you think is your point?

That all ;muslims are bad?

Well not all of them are bad. Not unless all xtians are bad too. You are an extremist though so you are bad.

Yes.

Exactly so.

ISLAM is an evil and violent philosophy.

e.g.

"Allah 's Apostle said, " I have been ordered to fight with the people till they say, 'None has the right to be worshipped but Allah,' and whoever says, 'None has the right to be worshipped but Allah,' his life and property will be saved by me except for Islamic law....." "
hadithsunnah/bukhari #004.052.196

"If anyone desires a religion other than Islam (submission to Allah), never will it be accepted of him;...."
Koran 3.85

"Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued."
Koran 9.29

"O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are near to you, and let them find harshness in you, and know that Allah is with those who keep their duty (unto Him)."
Koran 9.123

And moslems choose to associate themselves with ISLAM,
.....even though it can be demonstrated that ISLAM is an evil and violent philosophy,
.....which promotes the enslavement and murder of those who are not moslems.

Ergo;
Yes, ys, yes, moslems are bad, wicked, evil.

Hey SPOT,

Once more.....

THE TRUTH.....

There is no 'nice' ISLAM.

And there are no 'moderate', or 'nice' moslems.

All, moslems, imo, are bad, wicked, evil.

Because they choose to be, moslems, to join themselves to, ISLAM.

A moslem, is a moslem.

"Allah is my god, and Mohammed is his prophet."

Period.

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Google;
Shahada, confession of a muslim

"There is no god except for Allah alone; Muhammad is the Apostle of Allah."

"Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain:...."
Koran 9.111

What 'moslems', choose to embrace......

Murdering for 'religion'....

"Allah's Apostle said, "Who is willing to kill Ka'b bin Al-Ashraf who has hurt Allah and His Apostle?" Thereupon Muhammad bin Maslama got up saying, "O Allah's Apostle! Would you like that I kill him?" The Prophet said, "Yes," Muhammad bin Maslama said, "Then allow me to say a (false) thing (i.e. to deceive Kab). "The Prophet said, "You may say it." "
hadithsunnah/bukhari/ #005.059.369

And this....

Murdering for 'religion'....

"...If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him."

hadithsunnah/bukhari/ #004.052.260

And this....

Murdering for 'religion'....

"....the death of those who are killed for the cause of God gives more impetus to the cause, which continues to thrive on their blood."

ISLAMIC scholar, Sayyid Qutb, .......A moslem, promoting, justifying, ISLAM's murder of those who do not believe, as they believe.i

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You need to be locked away where you wont be a danger to other ppl and yourself.

How convenient.

I [SPOT!] can't win an argument in a public forum.

Solution ???

I know!!!

I will lobby to 'lock away' those people who express an opinion which does not align with my own opinion.

How clever of me!!!
/sarc off

SPOT,

YOU ARE LIVING A LIFE, IN DENIAL.
YOU REJECT THE TRUTH - WHENEVER TRUTH DOES NOT ALIGN WITH, AND SUPPORT, YOUR OPINION.
AND YOUR CONTENTION IS THAT; YOU ARE CORRECT, ....AND EVERYONE ELSE IS WRONG.
YOU INSIST THAT YOU ARE CORRECT, .....EVEN WHEN >> WHAT IS APPARENT << DOES NOT ALIGN WITH, AND SUPPORT, YOUR OPINION.
YOU ARE LIVING IN DENIAL.

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Re: Islamophobophobia: Politically Correct Persecution
Reply #99 - Jul 31^st, 2012 at 3:13pm

Yadda wrote on Jul 31^st, 2012 at 2:59pm:

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You need to be locked away where you wont be a danger to other ppl and yourself.

How convenient.

I [SPOT!] can't win an argument in a public forum.

Solution ???

I know!!!

I will lobby to 'lock away' those people who express an opinion which does not align with my own opinion.

How clever of me!!!
/sarc off

Hey SPOT,

Do you know what a >> bigot << is?

Open a dictionary;

bigot = = a person who is prejudiced in their views and intolerant of the opinions of others.

Bigots, are those people who are,
".....intolerant of the opinions of others."

And "prejudiced in their views"
???

Hmmm.

I wonder where i could find an example of, 'prejudiced in their views' ???

"If anyone desires a religion other than Islam (submission to Allah), never will it be accepted of him;...."

Koran 3.85

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Re: Islamophobophobia: Politically Correct Persecution
Reply #100 - Jul 31^st, 2012 at 3:29pm

It wasnt a comment on your opinions hateful as they are but on your psychological health. I am worried about you - you may no9t be tkaing your medication.

Xtians are all full of hate. They all are worshipping a murderous god being. The book tells them to kill unbelievers.
/sarc off

your fairy tale book:
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Kill Followers of Other Religions.

1) If your own full brother, or your son or daughter, or your beloved wife, or you intimate friend, entices you secretly to serve other gods, whom you and your fathers have not known, gods of any other nations, near at hand or far away, from one end of the earth to the other: do not yield to him or listen to him, nor look with pity upon him, to spare or shield him, but kill him. Your hand shall be the first raised to slay him; the rest of the people shall join in with you. You shall stone him to death, because he sought to lead you astray from the Lord, your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, that place of slavery. And all Israel, hearing of this, shall fear and never do such evil as this in your midst. (Deuteronomy 13:7-12 NAB)

2) Suppose a man or woman among you, in one of your towns that the LORD your God is giving you, has done evil in the sight of the LORD your God and has violated the covenant by serving other gods or by worshiping the sun, the moon, or any of the forces of heaven, which I have strictly forbidden. When you hear about it, investigate the matter thoroughly. If it is true that this detestable thing has been done in Israel, then that man or woman must be taken to the gates of the town and stoned to death. (Deuteronomy 17:2-5 NLT)

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Reply #101 - Jul 31^st, 2012 at 3:48pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 31^st, 2012 at 3:29pm:

It wasnt a comment on your opinions hateful as they are but on your psychological health. I am worried about you - you may no9t be tkaing your medication.

Xtians are all full of hate. They all are worshipping a murderous god being. The book tells them to kill unbelievers.
/sarc off

your fairy tale book:
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Kill Followers of Other Religions.

1) If your own full brother, or your son or daughter, or your beloved wife, or you intimate friend, entices you secretly to serve other gods, whom you and your fathers have not known, gods of any other nations, near at hand or far away, from one end of the earth to the other: do not yield to him or listen to him, nor look with pity upon him, to spare or shield him, but kill him. Your hand shall be the first raised to slay him; the rest of the people shall join in with you. You shall stone him to death, because he sought to lead you astray from the Lord, your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, that place of slavery. And all Israel, hearing of this, shall fear and never do such evil as this in your midst. (Deuteronomy 13:7-12 NAB)

2) Suppose a man or woman among you, in one of your towns that the LORD your God is giving you, has done evil in the sight of the LORD your God and has violated the covenant by serving other gods or by worshiping the sun, the moon, or any of the forces of heaven, which I have strictly forbidden. When you hear about it, investigate the matter thoroughly. If it is true that this detestable thing has been done in Israel, then that man or woman must be taken to the gates of the town and stoned to death. (Deuteronomy 17:2-5 NLT)

SOB

Ooooh.

Ooooooh.

'That is a hard one.'
/sarc off

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Duh.

Covenant breakers.

The OT bible records that the Hebrew people entered into a covenant, with their God.

"...And ye shall be unto me a kingdom of priests, and an holy nation. These are the words which thou shalt speak unto the children of Israel.
And Moses came and called for the elders of the people, and laid before their faces all these words which the LORD commanded him.
And all the people answered together, and said, All that the LORD hath spoken we will do...."
Exodus 19:5-8

Hey SPOT,

If the Hebrew people transgressed [broke] their side of the covenant, shouldn't those particular people responsible for the transgression of the covenant be punished,
ACCORDING TO THE TERMS OF THE COVENANT ?

And by the way SPOT, YOUR SUPPOSITION IS TOTALLY FALLACIOUS.

"The book tells them to kill unbelievers. ......Kill Followers of Other Religions."

Wrong.

Wrong.

Wrong.

And, fallacious.

Exodus 22:21
Thou shalt neither vex a stranger, nor oppress him...

Exodus 23:9
Also thou shalt not oppress a stranger...

Leviticus 19:33
And if a stranger sojourn with thee in your land, ye shall not vex him.
34 But the stranger that dwelleth with you shall be unto you as one born among you, and thou shalt love him as thyself...

n.b.
.....and thou shalt love him as thyself

Deuteronomy 1:16
And I charged your judges at that time, saying, Hear the causes between your brethren, and judge righteously between every man and his brother, and the stranger that is with him.

Deuteronomy 10:17-19
For the LORD your God... loveth the stranger, ...Love ye therefore the stranger:
for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt.

Deuteronomy 24:17
Thou shalt not pervert the judgment of the stranger, nor of the fatherless; nor take a widow's raiment to pledge:
18 But thou shalt remember that thou wast a bondman in Egypt, and the LORD thy God redeemed thee thence: therefore I command thee to do this thing.

Deuteronomy 27:19
Cursed be he that perverteth the judgment of the stranger...

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Re: Islamophobophobia: Politically Correct Persecution
Reply #103 - Jul 31^st, 2012 at 4:41pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 31^st, 2012 at 3:29pm:

your fairy tale book:
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Kill Followers of Other Religions.

1) If your own full brother, or your son or daughter, or your beloved wife, or you intimate friend, entices you secretly to serve other gods, whom you and your fathers have not known, gods of any other nations, near at hand or far away, from one end of the earth to the other: do not yield to him or listen to him, nor look with pity upon him, to spare or shield him, but kill him. Your hand shall be the first raised to slay him; the rest of the people shall join in with you. You shall stone him to death, because he sought to lead you astray from the Lord, your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, that place of slavery. And all Israel, hearing of this, shall fear and never do such evil as this in your midst. (Deuteronomy 13:7-12 NAB)

2) Suppose a man or woman among you, in one of your towns that the LORD your God is giving you, has done evil in the sight of the LORD your God and has violated the covenant by serving other gods or by worshiping the sun, the moon, or any of the forces of heaven, which I have strictly forbidden. When you hear about it, investigate the matter thoroughly. If it is true that this detestable thing has been done in Israel, then that man or woman must be taken to the gates of the town and stoned to death. (Deuteronomy 17:2-5 NLT)

SOB

Thats your book. Your god telling you to kill unbelievers. Want more?

This is leviticus (the same book you were quoting @ me)
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Death for Cursing Parents

1) If one curses his father or mother, his lamp will go out at the coming of darkness. (Proverbs 20:20 NAB)

2) All who curse their father or mother must be put to death. They are guilty of a capital offense. (Leviticus 20:9 NLT)

Death for Adultery

If a man commits adultery with another man's wife, both the man and the woman must be put to death. (Leviticus 20:10 NLT)

Death for Fornication

A priest's daughter who loses her honor by committing fornication and thereby dishonors her father also, shall be burned to death. (Leviticus 21:9 NAB)

What a violent religion . . . .

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Reply #104 - Jul 31^st, 2012 at 7:32pm

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Well not all of them are bad. Not unless all xtians are bad too.

So spot, which is it? Or does it not matter whether they are good or bad, so long as they are the same and you can tar them all with the same brush? For someone who is so hypersensitive to generalisations about Muslims you sure throw out enough of your own.

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