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bludger

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Citizen initiated referendum
Jun 6^th, 2012 at 9:43pm

Should Australia have C.I.R.
Let's take control of our destiny. Politicians stand around like a
bunch of dills with no idea what to do. This is because hardly any of them have had a real job amongst people whose vote they crave.
It would be better to send them on holiday for a bit. I have a few ideas I'd like to put up like giving pollies a paycut, getting rid of directors , nationalising banks, water , power, compulsory alternative power.

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bludger Senior Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 314 Gender:	Re: Citizen initiated referendum Reply #1 - Jun 6^th, 2012 at 9:45pm Well?
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nairbe Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2587 Rural NSW Gender:	Re: Citizen initiated referendum Reply #2 - Jun 6^th, 2012 at 9:46pm REFERENDUM When was the last one of those that meant anything.
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49062 At my desk.	Re: Citizen initiated referendum Reply #3 - Jun 6^th, 2012 at 9:56pm Why not switch to voting by delegable proxy? That way every bill is a referendum. And it saves creating a whole extra layer of bureaucracy to decide what should be on the referendum.
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bludger Senior Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 314 Gender:	Re: Citizen initiated referendum Reply #4 - Jun 6^th, 2012 at 10:27pm Oi! My idea is better.
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longweekend58 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 45675 Gender:	Re: Citizen initiated referendum Reply #5 - Jun 7^th, 2012 at 12:13am we have arguably the most stable democracy in the world. id be loathe to change something that works so well in a world where democracy and parliaments are floundering. Id need a more convincing argument than anything here.
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Frances Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3577 In a Castle in the Hills Gender:	Re: Citizen initiated referendum Reply #6 - Jun 7^th, 2012 at 12:33am A lot of bills passed by CIR would require expenditure of public funds - could this be one way to get the budget into red?
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Sir Spot of Borg Gold Member Offline WE ARE BORG Posts: 26509 Australia	Re: Citizen initiated referendum Reply #7 - Jun 7^th, 2012 at 7:33am nairbe wrote on Jun 6^th, 2012 at 9:46pm: REFERENDUM When was the last one of those that meant anything. Back when QLD voted to NOT have fluoride and howard made it illegal for councils to have referendums or states or somebody. Then we got fluoride anyway. SOB
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Re: Citizen initiated referendum
Reply #8 - Jun 7^th, 2012 at 7:50am

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 7^th, 2012 at 7:33am:

nairbe wrote on Jun 6^th, 2012 at 9:46pm:

REFERENDUM

When was the last one of those that meant anything.

Back when QLD voted to NOT have fluoride and howard made it illegal for councils to have referendums or states or somebody. Then we got fluoride anyway.

SOB

somebody has to llok after stupid QLDers including overriding their silly ideas.

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Re: Citizen initiated referendum
Reply #9 - Jun 7^th, 2012 at 8:16am

longweekend58 wrote on Jun 7^th, 2012 at 7:50am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 7^th, 2012 at 7:33am:

nairbe wrote on Jun 6^th, 2012 at 9:46pm:

REFERENDUM

When was the last one of those that meant anything.

Back when QLD voted to NOT have fluoride and howard made it illegal for councils to have referendums or states or somebody. Then we got fluoride anyway.

SOB

somebody has to llok after stupid QLDers including overriding their silly ideas.

So what are you saying there? That referendums should be illegal or that fluoride is a good thing? Or both?

SOB

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Re: Citizen initiated referendum
Reply #10 - Jun 7^th, 2012 at 1:24pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 7^th, 2012 at 8:16am:

longweekend58 wrote on Jun 7^th, 2012 at 7:50am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 7^th, 2012 at 7:33am:

nairbe wrote on Jun 6^th, 2012 at 9:46pm:

REFERENDUM

When was the last one of those that meant anything.

Back when QLD voted to NOT have fluoride and howard made it illegal for councils to have referendums or states or somebody. Then we got fluoride anyway.

SOB

somebody has to llok after stupid QLDers including overriding their silly ideas.

So what are you saying there? That referendums should be illegal or that fluoride is a good thing? Or both?

SOB

more that people liek you shouldnt be permitted to choose your own destiny.

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AUSSIE: "Speaking for myself, I could not care less about 298 human beings having their life snuffed out in a nano-second, or what impact that loss has on Members of their family, their parents..."

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Sir Spot of Borg

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Re: Citizen initiated referendum
Reply #11 - Jun 7^th, 2012 at 1:34pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jun 7^th, 2012 at 1:24pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 7^th, 2012 at 8:16am:

longweekend58 wrote on Jun 7^th, 2012 at 7:50am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 7^th, 2012 at 7:33am:

nairbe wrote on Jun 6^th, 2012 at 9:46pm:

REFERENDUM

When was the last one of those that meant anything.

Back when QLD voted to NOT have fluoride and howard made it illegal for councils to have referendums or states or somebody. Then we got fluoride anyway.

SOB

somebody has to llok after stupid QLDers including overriding their silly ideas.

So what are you saying there? That referendums should be illegal or that fluoride is a good thing? Or both?

SOB

more that people liek you shouldnt be permitted to choose your own destiny.

People like me huh? What are ppl like me? Would you like to be denied the right to a referendum?

SOB

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Swagman Gold Member Offline Beware of cheap imitations...... Posts: 15095 Illawarra NSW Gender:	Re: Citizen initiated referendum Reply #12 - Jun 7^th, 2012 at 2:04pm Only if votes were proportional to tax paid.....
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Re: Citizen initiated referendum
Reply #13 - Jun 7^th, 2012 at 6:01pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 7^th, 2012 at 1:34pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jun 7^th, 2012 at 1:24pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 7^th, 2012 at 8:16am:

longweekend58 wrote on Jun 7^th, 2012 at 7:50am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 7^th, 2012 at 7:33am:

nairbe wrote on Jun 6^th, 2012 at 9:46pm:

REFERENDUM

When was the last one of those that meant anything.

Back when QLD voted to NOT have fluoride and howard made it illegal for councils to have referendums or states or somebody. Then we got fluoride anyway.

SOB

somebody has to llok after stupid QLDers including overriding their silly ideas.

So what are you saying there? That referendums should be illegal or that fluoride is a good thing? Or both?

SOB

more that people liek you shouldnt be permitted to choose your own destiny.

People like me huh? What are ppl like me? Would you like to be denied the right to a referendum?

SOB

you might gain some credibility if you actually detailed (with proof) these idiotic claims. You've made a lot of them in the past and been totally wrong most of the time and you are once again. Quite simply - a referendum is a CONSTITUTIONAL issue which no govt dan ban or remove.

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Sir Spot of Borg Gold Member Offline WE ARE BORG Posts: 26509 Australia	Re: Citizen initiated referendum Reply #14 - Jun 7^th, 2012 at 6:07pm You explain what happened then. In your own words. SOB
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Question: Should Australia have C.I.R?
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