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Re: Citizen initiated referendum
Reply #15 - Jun 7^th, 2012 at 6:20pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 7^th, 2012 at 6:07pm:

You explain what happened then. In your own words.

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sigh... thats not how this works. You made a nebulous, barely coherent claim which i reject as having NOT happened. THAT is my explanation. Now if you wish to make an actual detailed statement of events then we can discuss it. But at the moment we seem to be relying on your 'memory' of events which may or may not have happened and for which you are disturbingly light on in the detail deparment.

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Re: Citizen initiated referendum
Reply #16 - Jun 7^th, 2012 at 6:30pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jun 7^th, 2012 at 6:20pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 7^th, 2012 at 6:07pm:

You explain what happened then. In your own words.

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sigh... thats not how this works. You made a nebulous, barely coherent claim which i reject as having NOT happened. THAT is my explanation. Now if you wish to make an actual detailed statement of events then we can discuss it. But at the moment we seem to be relying on your 'memory' of events which may or may not have happened and for which you are disturbingly light on in the detail deparment.

No. I didnt make a claim. I said something happened and i wasnt sure what. There was a referendum and ppl in qld rejected fluoride then something happened and bligh (if it was bligh - no i think it was that other one) put it through anyway with no further referendums. Howard did something make something illegal or something I dont remember what. Maybe you do.

you keep doing this. Your reading comprehension isnt very good is it.

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Re: Citizen initiated referendum
Reply #17 - Jun 7^th, 2012 at 6:41pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 7^th, 2012 at 6:30pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jun 7^th, 2012 at 6:20pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 7^th, 2012 at 6:07pm:

You explain what happened then. In your own words.

SOB

sigh... thats not how this works. You made a nebulous, barely coherent claim which i reject as having NOT happened. THAT is my explanation. Now if you wish to make an actual detailed statement of events then we can discuss it. But at the moment we seem to be relying on your 'memory' of events which may or may not have happened and for which you are disturbingly light on in the detail deparment.

No. I didnt make a claim. I said something happened and i wasnt sure what. There was a referendum and ppl in qld rejected fluoride then something happened and bligh (if it was bligh - no i think it was that other one) put it through anyway with no further referendums. Howard did something make something illegal or something I dont remember what. Maybe you do.

you keep doing this. Your reading comprehension isnt very good is it.

SOB

talking of comprehension difficulties... you come on with a dithering comment about Howard and flouride and then you post the above which is... a dithering comment where you claim you have no idea at all what you are talking about.

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Re: Citizen initiated referendum
Reply #18 - Jun 7^th, 2012 at 6:45pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jun 7^th, 2012 at 6:41pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 7^th, 2012 at 6:30pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jun 7^th, 2012 at 6:20pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 7^th, 2012 at 6:07pm:

You explain what happened then. In your own words.

SOB

sigh... thats not how this works. You made a nebulous, barely coherent claim which i reject as having NOT happened. THAT is my explanation. Now if you wish to make an actual detailed statement of events then we can discuss it. But at the moment we seem to be relying on your 'memory' of events which may or may not have happened and for which you are disturbingly light on in the detail deparment.

No. I didnt make a claim. I said something happened and i wasnt sure what. There was a referendum and ppl in qld rejected fluoride then something happened and bligh (if it was bligh - no i think it was that other one) put it through anyway with no further referendums. Howard did something make something illegal or something I dont remember what. Maybe you do.

you keep doing this. Your reading comprehension isnt very good is it.

SOB

talking of comprehension difficulties... you come on with a dithering comment about Howard and flouride and then you post the above which is... a dithering comment where you claim you have no idea at all what you are talking about.

lol. I cant help it if your memory is worse than mine.

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Re: Citizen initiated referendum
Reply #19 - Jun 7^th, 2012 at 6:49pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 7^th, 2012 at 6:45pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jun 7^th, 2012 at 6:41pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 7^th, 2012 at 6:30pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jun 7^th, 2012 at 6:20pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 7^th, 2012 at 6:07pm:

You explain what happened then. In your own words.

SOB

sigh... thats not how this works. You made a nebulous, barely coherent claim which i reject as having NOT happened. THAT is my explanation. Now if you wish to make an actual detailed statement of events then we can discuss it. But at the moment we seem to be relying on your 'memory' of events which may or may not have happened and for which you are disturbingly light on in the detail deparment.

No. I didnt make a claim. I said something happened and i wasnt sure what. There was a referendum and ppl in qld rejected fluoride then something happened and bligh (if it was bligh - no i think it was that other one) put it through anyway with no further referendums. Howard did something make something illegal or something I dont remember what. Maybe you do.

you keep doing this. Your reading comprehension isnt very good is it.

SOB

talking of comprehension difficulties... you come on with a dithering comment about Howard and flouride and then you post the above which is... a dithering comment where you claim you have no idea at all what you are talking about.

lol. I cant help it if your memory is worse than mine.

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It aint me dredging silt up from the back of my memory and throwing it onthe ground and pretending there is something there.

I think you are having a 80+ senior moment. there is a reason we have google. Why dont you try it.

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Re: Citizen initiated referendum
Reply #20 - Jun 7^th, 2012 at 6:54pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jun 7^th, 2012 at 6:49pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 7^th, 2012 at 6:45pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jun 7^th, 2012 at 6:41pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 7^th, 2012 at 6:30pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jun 7^th, 2012 at 6:20pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 7^th, 2012 at 6:07pm:

You explain what happened then. In your own words.

SOB

sigh... thats not how this works. You made a nebulous, barely coherent claim which i reject as having NOT happened. THAT is my explanation. Now if you wish to make an actual detailed statement of events then we can discuss it. But at the moment we seem to be relying on your 'memory' of events which may or may not have happened and for which you are disturbingly light on in the detail deparment.

No. I didnt make a claim. I said something happened and i wasnt sure what. There was a referendum and ppl in qld rejected fluoride then something happened and bligh (if it was bligh - no i think it was that other one) put it through anyway with no further referendums. Howard did something make something illegal or something I dont remember what. Maybe you do.

you keep doing this. Your reading comprehension isnt very good is it.

SOB

talking of comprehension difficulties... you come on with a dithering comment about Howard and flouride and then you post the above which is... a dithering comment where you claim you have no idea at all what you are talking about.

lol. I cant help it if your memory is worse than mine.

SOB

It aint me dredging silt up from the back of my memory and throwing it onthe ground and pretending there is something there.

I think you are having a 80+ senior moment. there is a reason we have google. Why dont you try it.

Nah. Learned long ago its not worth it for you. Your opinion would have to matter for you to be able to insult me. I expect most others here remember the incident. Certainly anyone in queensland would. Its not worth it because its just another of your strawmen.

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Reply #21 - Jun 7^th, 2012 at 6:56pm

Ok..back on topic, as a younger fella I was all for Citizen Initiated Referendums but these days I reckon they are completely stupid.
We elect govts to run the country for 3 yrs and we should just let them get on with it, love it or loath it.
There are plenty of times legislation has ticked me off but in the long run it turned out best for the country so I realise these days that govts are not there to be popular, they are there to govern.
The answer is NO to CIR's

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freediver Gold Member Online www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49069 At my desk.	Re: Citizen initiated referendum Reply #22 - Jun 7^th, 2012 at 6:56pm Spot, if you have no idea what actually happened, why did you bring it up?
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Reply #23 - Jun 7^th, 2012 at 7:02pm

freediver wrote on Jun 7^th, 2012 at 6:56pm:

Spot, if you have no idea what actually happened, why did you bring it up?

im not scrolling back this time of night to see what it was but it was prolly not even the point. something happened it referendums. Who cares. Maybe in the morning ill look it up but the way you idiots are acting i dont see any reason to bother with you. It was just part of another point.

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freediver Gold Member Online www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49069 At my desk.	Re: Citizen initiated referendum Reply #24 - Jun 7^th, 2012 at 7:07pm Do you back up all of your points with other points that you know nothing about and which disappear into thin air as soon as people question you on them?
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Reply #25 - Jun 7^th, 2012 at 7:25pm

freediver wrote on Jun 7^th, 2012 at 7:07pm:

Do you back up all of your points with other points that you know nothing about and which disappear into thin air as soon as people question you on them?

Only time anything disappears into thin air is when you take the quotes out. It was a strawman by your sock. What does it matter? QLD now has fluoride against the ppls wishes. No referendums anymore. That was the point. I didnt even claim to know how it happened just that it did happen. If you think it didnt happen then come to QLD and have a drink of water.

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freediver Gold Member Online www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49069 At my desk.	Re: Citizen initiated referendum Reply #26 - Jun 7^th, 2012 at 7:46pm So you do know, but you don't 'actually' know? Is your only point that QLD has flouridated water, and you are making no claims about how they got there?
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longweekend58 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 45675 Gender:	Re: Citizen initiated referendum Reply #27 - Jun 7^th, 2012 at 8:35pm freediver wrote on Jun 7^th, 2012 at 6:56pm: Spot, if you have no idea what actually happened, why did you bring it up? My point exactly. How can you complain about an event you cant remember and have no idea what happened?
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Reply #28 - Jun 7^th, 2012 at 8:36pm

adelcrow wrote on Jun 7^th, 2012 at 6:56pm:

Ok..back on topic, as a younger fella I was all for Citizen Initiated Referendums but these days I reckon they are completely stupid.
We elect govts to run the country for 3 yrs and we should just let them get on with it, love it or loath it.
There are plenty of times legislation has ticked me off but in the long run it turned out best for the country so I realise these days that govts are not there to be popular, they are there to govern.
The answer is NO to CIR's

Generally I agree. We choose MPs to govern so let them. It would however be nice if they took the truly major policies to elections and then followed thru. it is failure of that principle that leads to CIR. And there is still the principle that most people are idiots. Do you really want them voting on policy???

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Reply #29 - Jun 7^th, 2012 at 8:38pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 7^th, 2012 at 7:25pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 7^th, 2012 at 7:07pm:

Do you back up all of your points with other points that you know nothing about and which disappear into thin air as soon as people question you on them?

Only time anything disappears into thin air is when you take the quotes out. It was a strawman by your sock. What does it matter? QLD now has fluoride against the ppls wishes. No referendums anymore. That was the point. I didnt even claim to know how it happened just that it did happen. If you think it didnt happen then come to QLD and have a drink of water.

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and I thought your private school funding 'argument' was obtuse. This time we cant even worl out what point you are referring to or if you even know yourself!

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