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Sir Spot of Borg Gold Member Offline WE ARE BORG Posts: 26509 Australia	Hypocrisy Jun 7^th, 2012 at 6:41pm My server is down ATM so I have to file attach this SOB
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nairbe Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2587 Rural NSW Gender:	Re: Hypocrisy Reply #1 - Jun 7^th, 2012 at 6:45pm There will be a very logical and simple explaination for this that you have not realised, i just can not remember it. OH yes that's it... you are a stupid left wing laborite and its all Thompsons fault that Gillard was mis quoted and John Howard should be god. Think that covers it.
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Reply #2 - Jun 7^th, 2012 at 6:48pm

nairbe wrote on Jun 7^th, 2012 at 6:45pm:

There will be a very logical and simple explaination for this that you have not realised, i just can not remember it. OH yes that's it... you are a stupid left wing laborite and its all Thompsons fault that Gillard was mis quoted and John Howard should be god. Think that covers it. Cheesy

Friggin Hitler loving socialist commies..your all the same Tongue

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Reply #3 - Jun 7^th, 2012 at 7:59pm

Silly and pretty dumb really.

The first question should have been lined up professionally if they were only going to ask about one government rebate/subsidy.

The question should have been:

Do you support all/every government rebate/subsidy to be means tested.

Outcome would have been close to 0 hypocritical difference all round.

Did green_loser set this poll up or is this just a progressive thing to try and fool people.

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Sir Spot of Borg Gold Member Offline WE ARE BORG Posts: 26509 Australia	Re: Hypocrisy Reply #4 - Jun 8^th, 2012 at 9:05am Looks pretty straight forward to me. SOB
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cods Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 88048	Re: Hypocrisy Reply #5 - Jun 8^th, 2012 at 9:10am like most things if you dont get the rebate/sub.. then you would be dead set against it...I think.. all those who get it.. in favor say AY!
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Gist Gold Member Offline I am not a sock, I am a human being! Posts: 5476	Re: Hypocrisy Reply #6 - Jun 8^th, 2012 at 9:22am cods wrote on Jun 8^th, 2012 at 9:10am: like most things if you dont get the rebate/sub.. then you would be dead set against it...I think.. all those who get it.. in favor say AY! You have to pay for private health insurance to get the subsidy cods. Do you pay for private health insurance?
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Sir Spot of Borg Gold Member Offline WE ARE BORG Posts: 26509 Australia	Re: Hypocrisy Reply #7 - Jun 8^th, 2012 at 9:37am This is what i have never understood about this thing. Its PRIVATE meaning you pay for it - how the heck can they means test it when you have paid for a service? SOB
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Reply #8 - Jun 8^th, 2012 at 9:41am

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 8^th, 2012 at 9:37am:

This is what i have never understood about this thing. Its PRIVATE meaning you pay for it - how the heck can they means test it when you have paid for a service?

SOB

This rebate was bought in by the Liberals in late 90s (I may be wrong there but i think it was then) It was meant to assist families with the rising cost of private health insurance. Of course - as with most things - the Helath funds increased their prices and the rebate was nugutory. My private health is around $3k a year and I get around $1k back. if they take the rebate away it wouldn't really worry me but I think it would cause a lot of families to reconsider their private health needs.

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Reply #9 - Jun 8^th, 2012 at 11:31am

Gist wrote on Jun 8^th, 2012 at 9:22am:

cods wrote on Jun 8^th, 2012 at 9:10am:

like most things if you dont get the rebate/sub.. then you would be dead set against it...I think..

all those who get it.. in favor say AY!

You have to pay for private health insurance to get the subsidy cods. Do you pay for private health insurance?

no I dont.. as I am looking at getting a hip replacement..I am now going through the first steps..seeing the surgeon.. have been told basically going public and going private doesnt mean a thing..it all depends on how bad your situation is.. and we all have the same surgeon..and even the private patient can end up in the public wards...

when I made my remarks I wsnt thinking about what I will get..I was thinking about how I would vote if I was in that situation..

rebates you vote how they affect you personally in other words..

and whats the point anyway we dont vote on one issue do we?

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Reply #10 - Jun 8^th, 2012 at 2:24pm

cods wrote on Jun 8^th, 2012 at 11:31am:

Gist wrote on Jun 8^th, 2012 at 9:22am:

cods wrote on Jun 8^th, 2012 at 9:10am:

like most things if you dont get the rebate/sub.. then you would be dead set against it...I think..

all those who get it.. in favor say AY!

You have to pay for private health insurance to get the subsidy cods. Do you pay for private health insurance?

no I dont.. as I am looking at getting a hip replacement..I am now going through the first steps..seeing the surgeon.. have been told basically going public and going private doesnt mean a thing..it all depends on how bad your situation is.. and we all have the same surgeon..and even the private patient can end up in the public wards...

when I made my remarks I wsnt thinking about what I will get..I was thinking about how I would vote if I was in that situation..

rebates you vote how they affect you personally in other words..

and whats the point anyway we dont vote on one issue do we?

Wrong again Cods,
I do have private cover, and the difference is you won't get a bill.
I pay over 4k a year insurance (nett after rebates) and have the added bonus of receiving bills for aspects that private insurance does not cover.

Why have it?
Basically so I can always guarantee my loved ones will not be chucked in a queue, when they are in need of medical attention.

Unluckily, we are all disgustingly healthy, always have been, and I am hoping at least I can develop some expensive to treat disease, so I can start feeling like I have not been wasting my money. Grin

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Sir Spot of Borg Gold Member Offline WE ARE BORG Posts: 26509 Australia	Re: Hypocrisy Reply #11 - Jun 8^th, 2012 at 2:31pm Quote: Unluckily, we are all disgustingly healthy, always have been, and I am hoping at least I can develop some expensive to treat disease, so I can start feeling like I have not been wasting my money. Time to adopt a borg SOB
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Reply #12 - Jun 8^th, 2012 at 2:47pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 8^th, 2012 at 9:37am:

This is what i have never understood about this thing. Its PRIVATE meaning you pay for it - how the heck can they means test it when you have paid for a service?

SOB

They're not means testing private health insurance, they're means testing the rebate you get from the government frrom having private health insurance.

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Reply #13 - Jun 8^th, 2012 at 2:57pm

PoliticalReality wrote on Jun 8^th, 2012 at 2:47pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 8^th, 2012 at 9:37am:

This is what i have never understood about this thing. Its PRIVATE meaning you pay for it - how the heck can they means test it when you have paid for a service?

SOB

They're not means testing private health insurance, they're means testing the rebate you get from the government frrom having private health insurance.

Okay. Bit like the private schools thing. Why is govt giving a rebate for something private?

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longweekend58 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 45675 Gender:	Re: Hypocrisy Reply #14 - Jun 8^th, 2012 at 10:11pm Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 8^th, 2012 at 9:05am: Looks pretty straight forward to me. SOB but you are an idiot so that doesnt mean much.
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