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Labor wants to sell the farm
Jun 8^th, 2012 at 8:54am

http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/-/national/13900815/joyce-dragging-us-back-to...

Trade Minister Craig Emerson has dismissed Nationals Senator Barnaby Joyce's concerns about food security in the wake of a Chinese bid for Australia farmland, as an attempt to drag Australia back to the 1950s.

Craig Emerson said Australia should not shun foreign investment in agriculture.

"Put the walls up... back to the 1950s that's what you get with Barnaby Joyce and Tony Abbott," Dr Emerson told the ABC.

Queensland Senator Barnaby Joyce has raised questions about whether Dr Emerson is favouring a Chinese bid to take over the Ord River irrigation scheme in the West Australian Kimberley region because his former boss Bob Hawke is reportedly representing Chinese firm Shanghai Zhongfu.

He rejected accusations of xenophobia and says local companies should be given priority.

Senator Joyce said "state-owned enterprise investment" should considered differently to investments by individuals because they were "arms of another nation's government."

"If you have another nation's government becoming a large scale owner of land in your country are you going to create confusions for yourself in the future," he told ABC radio.

He said Australia should not be naive about potential future disputes with foreign governments over Australian farmland.

Figures from the Australian Bureau of Statistics showing 89 per cent of agricultural land was Australian-owned were wrong, Senator Joyce said.

"If you have two peach trees and a couple of rabbits, they will call you a farmer," he said.
"It's a manipulation of the figures."

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BlOoDy RiPpEr Gold Member Offline aussie-patriot.com Posts: 2475 Sydney Gender:	Re: Labor wants to sell the farm Reply #1 - Jun 8^th, 2012 at 8:59am So what happens if we need the farms back, will china wage war to keep its farm land in Australia?
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lisa.greek Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1595 Cairns QLD	Re: Labor wants to sell the farm Reply #2 - Jun 8^th, 2012 at 8:59am "Figures from the Australian Bureau of Statistics showing 89 per cent of agricultural land was Australian-owned were wrong, Senator Joyce said." And Barnaby Joyce's knowledge and skillsets to make this statement are?
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Re: Labor wants to sell the farm
Reply #3 - Jun 8^th, 2012 at 9:02am

lisa.greek wrote on Jun 8^th, 2012 at 8:59am:

"Figures from the Australian Bureau of Statistics showing 89 per cent of agricultural land was Australian-owned were wrong, Senator Joyce said."

And Barnaby Joyce's knowledge and skillsets to make this statement are?

"If you have two peach trees and a couple of rabbits, they will call you a farmer," he said.

"It's a manipulation of the figures."

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Maqqa Gold Member Offline 14% - that low?! Posts: 16000	Re: Labor wants to sell the farm Reply #4 - Jun 8^th, 2012 at 9:09am BlOoDy RiPpEr wrote on Jun 8^th, 2012 at 8:59am: So what happens if we need the farms back, will china wage war to keep its farm land in Australia? Based on what the Chinese Military was asking Stephen Smith yesterday - it looks like war
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Gist Gold Member Offline I am not a sock, I am a human being! Posts: 5476	Re: Labor wants to sell the farm Reply #5 - Jun 8^th, 2012 at 9:21am lisa.greek wrote on Jun 8^th, 2012 at 8:59am: "Figures from the Australian Bureau of Statistics showing 89 per cent of agricultural land was Australian-owned were wrong, Senator Joyce said." And Barnaby Joyce's knowledge and skillsets to make this statement are? Unlike Joe, he can count past eleventy.
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Re: Labor wants to sell the farm
Reply #6 - Jun 8^th, 2012 at 10:21am

The "selling the farm"
syndrome is by NO MEANS one that began with the present Government
It began in - and was nurtured by ALL governments - for the bulk of the 20th century

ONE leader - in ALL of those decades - vocally and actively OPPOSED it

... and look at what we thought of his "socialist" agenda
for future generations

FOREIGN INVESTMENT

Rural industries no longer hold the dominating position in Australia’s export trade that they once did.
But they have been traditionally and overwhelmingly the industries which Australians have controlled, industries from which Australians – all Australians – have derived the benefit and profit, and industries for which Australians – all Australians – have shared the burden in times of hardship and difficulty.

Now, the most profitable and significant of Australia’s industries and resources are under foreign control.
Sir John McEwen described this process as selling a bit of the farm year by year to pay our way.
Mr McMahon, more than any other Liberal, prevented any effort to limit foreign investment in those years.
More than any other Australian, Mr McMahon bears the responsibility for Australia “selling the farm”.
But in truth, it has not been the “farm” which has been sold – not the industries like wheat or wool or fruit or dairying or gold, the industries which have faced the crisis and hardships of recent years. It is the strongest and richest of our own industries and services which have been bought up from overseas.

It’s time to stop the great takeover of Australia.

But more important,
it’s time to start buying Australia back.

A Labor Government will
enable Australia and ordinary Australians to take part in the ownership, development and use of Australian industries and resources

.

It’s Time: Whitlam’s 1972 Election Policy Speech

http://whitlamdismissal.com/1972/11/13/whitlam-1972-election-policy-speech.html

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Had Whitlam's vision been realised, we wouldn't be divided as a nation on the pros and cons of the minerals super profits tax

The Australian mining sector would be OWNED, 100%, by 20 million Australian share-holders

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Re: Labor wants to sell the farm
Reply #7 - Jun 8^th, 2012 at 11:03am

buzzanddidj wrote on Jun 8^th, 2012 at 10:21am:

The "selling the farm"
syndrome is by NO MEANS one that began with the present Government
It began in - and was nurtured by ALL governments - for the bulk of the 20th century

ONE leader - in ALL of those decades - vocally and actively OPPOSED it

... and look at what we thought of his "socialist" agenda
for future generations

FOREIGN INVESTMENT

Rural industries no longer hold the dominating position in Australia’s export trade that they once did.
But they have been traditionally and overwhelmingly the industries which Australians have controlled, industries from which Australians – all Australians – have derived the benefit and profit, and industries for which Australians – all Australians – have shared the burden in times of hardship and difficulty.

Now, the most profitable and significant of Australia’s industries and resources are under foreign control.
Sir John McEwen described this process as selling a bit of the farm year by year to pay our way.
Mr McMahon, more than any other Liberal, prevented any effort to limit foreign investment in those years.
More than any other Australian, Mr McMahon bears the responsibility for Australia “selling the farm”.
But in truth, it has not been the “farm” which has been sold – not the industries like wheat or wool or fruit or dairying or gold, the industries which have faced the crisis and hardships of recent years. It is the strongest and richest of our own industries and services which have been bought up from overseas.

It’s time to stop the great takeover of Australia.

But more important,
it’s time to start buying Australia back.

A Labor Government will
enable Australia and ordinary Australians to take part in the ownership, development and use of Australian industries and resources

.

It’s Time: Whitlam’s 1972 Election Policy Speech

http://whitlamdismissal.com/1972/11/13/whitlam-1972-election-policy-speech.html

If ONLY ...

Had Whitlam's vision been realised, we wouldn't be divided as a nation on the pros and cons of the minerals super profits tax

The Australian mining sector would be OWNED, 100%, by 20 million Australian share-holders

Nope, don't see how thats relevant - labor has been flat out selling the farm since Hawke came into office and Gillard can't speed up the process enough, so you have no case to argue for Gillard or labor here. Gillard is a nutcase turning this country into one soulless socialist economic machine that will never stop. Endless meaningless socialist reform and engineering and remaking of our country and destabilizing lives for its own sake. You off shored your industries, now offshore yourselves from my country, we have no use for you here. Lips Sealed

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Re: Labor wants to sell the farm
Reply #8 - Jun 8^th, 2012 at 11:11am

Prevailing wrote on Jun 8^th, 2012 at 11:03am:

buzzanddidj wrote on Jun 8^th, 2012 at 10:21am:

The "selling the farm"
syndrome is by NO MEANS one that began with the present Government
It began in - and was nurtured by ALL governments - for the bulk of the 20th century

ONE leader - in ALL of those decades - vocally and actively OPPOSED it

... and look at what we thought of his "socialist" agenda
for future generations

FOREIGN INVESTMENT

Rural industries no longer hold the dominating position in Australia’s export trade that they once did.
But they have been traditionally and overwhelmingly the industries which Australians have controlled, industries from which Australians – all Australians – have derived the benefit and profit, and industries for which Australians – all Australians – have shared the burden in times of hardship and difficulty.

Now, the most profitable and significant of Australia’s industries and resources are under foreign control.
Sir John McEwen described this process as selling a bit of the farm year by year to pay our way.
Mr McMahon, more than any other Liberal, prevented any effort to limit foreign investment in those years.
More than any other Australian, Mr McMahon bears the responsibility for Australia “selling the farm”.
But in truth, it has not been the “farm” which has been sold – not the industries like wheat or wool or fruit or dairying or gold, the industries which have faced the crisis and hardships of recent years. It is the strongest and richest of our own industries and services which have been bought up from overseas.

It’s time to stop the great takeover of Australia.

But more important,
it’s time to start buying Australia back.

A Labor Government will
enable Australia and ordinary Australians to take part in the ownership, development and use of Australian industries and resources

.

It’s Time: Whitlam’s 1972 Election Policy Speech

http://whitlamdismissal.com/1972/11/13/whitlam-1972-election-policy-speech.html

If ONLY ...

Had Whitlam's vision been realised, we wouldn't be divided as a nation on the pros and cons of the minerals super profits tax

The Australian mining sector would be OWNED, 100%, by 20 million Australian share-holders

Nope, don't see how thats relevant - labor has been flat out selling the farm since Hawke came into office ...

( ... not to mention COALITION governments - PRE-Hawke)

-buzz

... and Gillard can't speed up the process enough, so you have no case to argue for Gillard or labor here.

Nor DID I

I was PRAISING the much maligned WHITLAM

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Prevailing Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 7169 Stop Men	Re: Labor wants to sell the farm Reply #9 - Jun 8^th, 2012 at 11:14am Whitlam wanted to sell the farm and live off the mining industries back while turning Australia into a quarry, you people do not get it because you are driven by an insanity called greed.
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Prevailing Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 7169 Stop Men	Re: Labor wants to sell the farm Reply #10 - Jun 8^th, 2012 at 11:18am And lets face it, neither whitlam, nor Gillard, nor Abbott, nor Howard believe those mining minerals belong equally to all Australians - they believe they belong to the citizens of the world...the best and the brightest, the aristocracy, the ruling class, the English Queen - get out of my country.
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Maqqa Gold Member Offline 14% - that low?! Posts: 16000	Re: Labor wants to sell the farm Reply #11 - Jun 8^th, 2012 at 12:03pm buzz thinks that the Minerals Resources Tax is actually about redistribution of wealth!!! It's about Labor trying to pay down a $300B Government debt caused by their incompetence We didn't have a resource tax before and GDP doubled during the Howard era - yet now we need it?
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