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Reply #15 - Jun 10^th, 2012 at 9:49am

Maqqa wrote on Jun 10^th, 2012 at 9:43am:

____ wrote on Jun 10^th, 2012 at 9:38am:

Maqqa wrote on Jun 10^th, 2012 at 9:09am:

If we couldn't believe her when she said "There will be no carbon tax under a government I lead"

Then why is this any more believable?

Greens will try to hang on to ANY hope but the Carbon Tax will go!!!

Bob Brown has abandoned his little penguins so will Gillard

Bob Brown still supports a carbon levy ... unless you have information and are holding out on us?

After the next election does he have a vote?

NO!!!

Brown has abandoned his little penguins - suck it up princess

And Christine Milne has taken over the leadership

Peter Whish-Wilson is Senator.

Now back to the topic

Carbon Levy Repealing requires compensation to industry.

How much has Abbott forecasted the government will pay to industry and how will it be paid for?

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The expert explained that the legislation defined the carbon units created under the law as a unit of personal property, which would make it harder for future national leaders to repeal the carbon tax law without compensation.

http://au.ibtimes.com/articles/232918/20111018/expert-warns-carbon-tax-repeal-wo...

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Reply #16 - Jun 10^th, 2012 at 9:50am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 10^th, 2012 at 7:15am:

Another lie by our lying PM. Abbott is definitely going to be able to repeal the carbon tax and if/when she loses the next election, she should support legislation (if she is still ALP Leader) as the Coalition did with changes to WorhChoices. Also, the tax cuts will do next to nothing to offset the effect of a higher cost of living under the carbon tax.

So when that higher cost of living has come into effect AND Abbott repeals the carbon tax - how will he reduce the cost of living?
It's a simple question. It deserves an answer.

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Reply #17 - Jun 10^th, 2012 at 9:53am

Gist wrote on Jun 10^th, 2012 at 9:50am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 10^th, 2012 at 7:15am:

Another lie by our lying PM. Abbott is definitely going to be able to repeal the carbon tax and if/when she loses the next election, she should support legislation (if she is still ALP Leader) as the Coalition did with changes to WorhChoices. Also, the tax cuts will do next to nothing to offset the effect of a higher cost of living under the carbon tax.

So when that higher cost of living has come into effect AND Abbott repeals the carbon tax - how will he reduce the cost of living?
It's a simple question. It deserves an answer.

You are as moronic as Greens or you are deliberately trying to mix two unrelated issue

Cost of living generally increases every year i.e. the CPI.

The Carbon Tax is an added increase on top of the normal increases

The lefties are trying to imply the Carbon Tax are the same as normal increases when it's not.

Why would you do that?

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Reply #18 - Jun 10^th, 2012 at 9:54am

____ wrote on Jun 10^th, 2012 at 9:49am:

Maqqa wrote on Jun 10^th, 2012 at 9:43am:

____ wrote on Jun 10^th, 2012 at 9:38am:

Maqqa wrote on Jun 10^th, 2012 at 9:09am:

If we couldn't believe her when she said "There will be no carbon tax under a government I lead"

Then why is this any more believable?

Greens will try to hang on to ANY hope but the Carbon Tax will go!!!

Bob Brown has abandoned his little penguins so will Gillard

Bob Brown still supports a carbon levy ... unless you have information and are holding out on us?

After the next election does he have a vote?

NO!!!

Brown has abandoned his little penguins - suck it up princess

And Christine Milne has taken over the leadership

Peter Whish-Wilson is Senator.

Now back to the topic

Carbon Levy Repealing requires compensation to industry.

How much has Abbott forecasted the government will pay to industry and how will it be paid for?

Quote:

The expert explained that the legislation defined the carbon units created under the law as a unit of personal property, which would make it harder for future national leaders to repeal the carbon tax law without compensation.

http://au.ibtimes.com/articles/232918/20111018/expert-warns-carbon-tax-repeal-wo...

Brown has abandoned you and you are panicking.

The Carbon Tax will be repealed so suck it up princess

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Reply #19 - Jun 10^th, 2012 at 9:57am

Maqqa wrote on Jun 10^th, 2012 at 9:49am:

John Smith wrote on Jun 10^th, 2012 at 9:47am:

Maqqa wrote on Jun 10^th, 2012 at 9:43am:

John Smith wrote on Jun 10^th, 2012 at 9:41am:

Abbott will NEVER repeal the carbon tax .... the LIB party will replace him before he even tries and then claim that it was Abbotts agenda and the new leader has a different agenda therefore no broken promises .. blah blah blah .. they've got it all worked out

As a leftie you'd know that!!

As a right wing nutjob you had every opportunity to refute my claim ... but you didn't .... speaks volumes ....

I don't need to and I have confronted you with demands for proof the other day which you failed to provide. That speaks volumes

Back under your rock boy!!

Have you taken a stupid pill today? You want proof you'll just have to wait ... if Abbott repeals the carbon tax, you can say I was wrong ... the only rocks are in your head ... whats the matter, are you upset that Abbott will never be PM? ...

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Reply #20 - Jun 10^th, 2012 at 9:58am

John Smith wrote on Jun 10^th, 2012 at 9:57am:

Maqqa wrote on Jun 10^th, 2012 at 9:49am:

John Smith wrote on Jun 10^th, 2012 at 9:47am:

Maqqa wrote on Jun 10^th, 2012 at 9:43am:

John Smith wrote on Jun 10^th, 2012 at 9:41am:

Abbott will NEVER repeal the carbon tax .... the LIB party will replace him before he even tries and then claim that it was Abbotts agenda and the new leader has a different agenda therefore no broken promises .. blah blah blah .. they've got it all worked out

As a leftie you'd know that!!

As a right wing nutjob you had every opportunity to refute my claim ... but you didn't .... speaks volumes ....

I don't need to and I have confronted you with demands for proof the other day which you failed to provide. That speaks volumes

Back under your rock boy!!

Have you taken a stupid pill today? You want proof you'll just have to wait ... if Abbott repeals the carbon tax, you can say I was wrong ... the only rocks are in your head ... whats the matter, are you upset that Abbott will never be PM? ...

Doesn't stop Gillard making the claims it won't happen.

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Reply #21 - Jun 10^th, 2012 at 10:00am

The Opposition’s unrelenting attack on the Government over carbon pricing has been simple and devastatingly effective. But Tony Abbott probably should have told his colleagues to hold off purchasing shares in an industry he has predicted will be shattered.

I do go along with that.. but we all know it isnt the industry that will be shattered..

mining will survive any idiot knows that... its the rest of our manufacturing . steel industry refining.car manufacturing..everything else will be affected by this CARBON TAX of $23

n ot only are we basically alone..with CARBON TAX.....

I see Spain has now bit the bullet!!!!! but we have this

enormous price..

and as we are watching more and more business leave the country or go under..

their first report on what was it $8bn..TAX recovered that they were sharing with the whole country..[ I believe that too has been revised]
will also need revising..

denial denial denial.. live in it all you like..but this TAX will/is changing this country for ever...

I am not in the least convinced for the better.

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Reply #22 - Jun 10^th, 2012 at 10:05am

Maqqa wrote on Jun 10^th, 2012 at 9:54am:

____ wrote on Jun 10^th, 2012 at 9:49am:

Maqqa wrote on Jun 10^th, 2012 at 9:43am:

____ wrote on Jun 10^th, 2012 at 9:38am:

Maqqa wrote on Jun 10^th, 2012 at 9:09am:

If we couldn't believe her when she said "There will be no carbon tax under a government I lead"

Then why is this any more believable?

Greens will try to hang on to ANY hope but the Carbon Tax will go!!!

Bob Brown has abandoned his little penguins so will Gillard

Bob Brown still supports a carbon levy ... unless you have information and are holding out on us?

After the next election does he have a vote?

NO!!!

Brown has abandoned his little penguins - suck it up princess

And Christine Milne has taken over the leadership

Peter Whish-Wilson is Senator.

Now back to the topic

Carbon Levy Repealing requires compensation to industry.

How much has Abbott forecasted the government will pay to industry and how will it be paid for?

Quote:

The expert explained that the legislation defined the carbon units created under the law as a unit of personal property, which would make it harder for future national leaders to repeal the carbon tax law without compensation.

http://au.ibtimes.com/articles/232918/20111018/expert-warns-carbon-tax-repeal-wo...

Brown has abandoned you and you are panicking.

The Carbon Tax will be repealed so suck it up princess

I am not the one willing to discuss this topic.

It is the right that has overstretched

It is abbott that has made the noose and put it over his own neck and now climbing out on a limb.

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Maqqa Gold Member Offline 14% - that low?! Posts: 16000	Re: "Carbon Levy Will Never Be Repealed" PM Reply #23 - Jun 10^th, 2012 at 10:11am Nothing to discuss - the carbon tax will be repealed by the LIBs 63% of Australians rejects the Carbon Tax 57% of Australians want the LIBs to repeal it So suck it up princess!!!
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Reply #24 - Jun 10^th, 2012 at 10:12am

Maqqa wrote on Jun 10^th, 2012 at 9:58am:

John Smith wrote on Jun 10^th, 2012 at 9:57am:

Maqqa wrote on Jun 10^th, 2012 at 9:49am:

John Smith wrote on Jun 10^th, 2012 at 9:47am:

Maqqa wrote on Jun 10^th, 2012 at 9:43am:

John Smith wrote on Jun 10^th, 2012 at 9:41am:

Abbott will NEVER repeal the carbon tax .... the LIB party will replace him before he even tries and then claim that it was Abbotts agenda and the new leader has a different agenda therefore no broken promises .. blah blah blah .. they've got it all worked out

As a leftie you'd know that!!

As a right wing nutjob you had every opportunity to refute my claim ... but you didn't .... speaks volumes ....

I don't need to and I have confronted you with demands for proof the other day which you failed to provide. That speaks volumes

Back under your rock boy!!

Have you taken a stupid pill today? You want proof you'll just have to wait ... if Abbott repeals the carbon tax, you can say I was wrong ... the only rocks are in your head ... whats the matter, are you upset that Abbott will never be PM? ...

Doesn't stop Gillard making the claims it won't happen.

Doesn't stop Abbott making claims that he will .... and guess what, it's easy for him to prove it in advance .. all he has toi do is explain how he plans on paying for it, how he plans on making up the budget shortfall repealing it will create .... something tells me he won't explain because he has no idea

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Reply #25 - Jun 10^th, 2012 at 10:13am

cods wrote on Jun 10^th, 2012 at 10:00am:

The Opposition’s unrelenting attack on the Government over carbon pricing has been simple and devastatingly effective. But Tony Abbott probably should have told his colleagues to hold off purchasing shares in an industry he has predicted will be shattered.

I do go along with that.. but we all know it isnt the industry that will be shattered..

mining will survive any idiot knows that... its the rest of our manufacturing . steel industry refining.car manufacturing..everything else will be affected by this CARBON TAX of $23

n ot only are we basically alone..with CARBON TAX.....

I see Spain has now bit the bullet!!!!! but we have this

enormous price..

and as we are watching more and more business leave the country or go under..

their first report on what was it $8bn..TAX recovered that they were sharing with the whole country..[ I believe that too has been revised]
will also need revising..

denial denial denial.. live in it all you like..but this TAX will/is changing this country for ever...

I am not in the least convinced for the better.

So the Euro protecting Spain before Greece votes is your best you can do to promote Abbott's Regressive and Costly Agenda.

You are a lightweight cods.

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Reply #26 - Jun 10^th, 2012 at 10:17am

Maqqa wrote on Jun 10^th, 2012 at 10:11am:

Nothing to discuss - the carbon tax will be repealed by the LIBs

63% of Australians rejects the Carbon Tax
57% of Australians want the LIBs to repeal it

So suck it up princess!!!

When will he repeal it.

How will he repeal it, since the majority of the senate will oppose it.

How much will Abbott pay in compensation to industry, and how will this compensation be funded?

And if he removes the carbon compensation, what of the carbon pricing in the economy ... how much will Abbott's action push up the cost of living pressures?

How much more expensive will electricity and food be because of Abbott's action of profiteering for the carbon lobby, for Lib's owner, Clive Palmer?

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Reply #27 - Jun 10^th, 2012 at 10:20am

____ wrote on Jun 10^th, 2012 at 10:17am:

Maqqa wrote on Jun 10^th, 2012 at 10:11am:

Nothing to discuss - the carbon tax will be repealed by the LIBs

63% of Australians rejects the Carbon Tax
57% of Australians want the LIBs to repeal it

So suck it up princess!!!

When will he repeal it.

How will he repeal it, since the majority of the senate will oppose it.

How much will Abbott pay in compensation to industry, and how will this compensation be funded?

And if he removes the carbon compensation, what of the carbon pricing in the economy ... how much will Abbott's action push up the cost of living pressures?

How much more expensive will electricity and food be because of Abbott's action of profiteering for the carbon lobby, for Lib's owner, Clive Palmer?

The process starts at the end of the next election

The Greens should just worry about how seats it will retain.

I wonder if Bob Brown is so worried he quit politics - abandon his little penguins when they need him most

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Reply #28 - Jun 10^th, 2012 at 10:21am

____ wrote on Jun 10^th, 2012 at 10:17am:

Maqqa wrote on Jun 10^th, 2012 at 10:11am:

Nothing to discuss - the carbon tax will be repealed by the LIBs

63% of Australians rejects the Carbon Tax
57% of Australians want the LIBs to repeal it

So suck it up princess!!!

When will he repeal it.

How will he repeal it, since the majority of the senate will oppose it.

How much will Abbott pay in compensation to industry, and how will this compensation be funded?

And if he removes the carbon compensation, what of the carbon pricing in the economy ... how much will Abbott's action push up the cost of living pressures?

How much more expensive will electricity and food be because of Abbott's action of profiteering for the carbon lobby, for Lib's owner, Clive Palmer?

Don't wait for an answer green ... they don't have one because the reality is they don't really want to repeal it .... if they did they would have those answers all sorted by now ... they've had plenty of time

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Reply #29 - Jun 10^th, 2012 at 10:33am

Maqqa wrote on Jun 10^th, 2012 at 9:53am:

Gist wrote on Jun 10^th, 2012 at 9:50am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 10^th, 2012 at 7:15am:

Another lie by our lying PM. Abbott is definitely going to be able to repeal the carbon tax and if/when she loses the next election, she should support legislation (if she is still ALP Leader) as the Coalition did with changes to WorhChoices. Also, the tax cuts will do next to nothing to offset the effect of a higher cost of living under the carbon tax.

So when that higher cost of living has come into effect AND Abbott repeals the carbon tax - how will he reduce the cost of living?
It's a simple question. It deserves an answer.

You are as moronic as Greens or you are deliberately trying to mix two unrelated issue

Cost of living generally increases every year i.e. the CPI.

The Carbon Tax is an added increase on top of the normal increases

The lefties are trying to imply the Carbon Tax are the same as normal increases when it's not.

Why would you do that?

Idiot. YOU claim the carbon tax will raise living expenses. OK. So when Abbott repeals the carbon tax HOW WILL HE ENSURE THOSE EXPENSES ARE REDUCED?
It's a simple concept simply put to allow simpletons to understand. So kindly give a simple answer.

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