1. If someone says something stupid and you say, "Hey, that is stupid BS because ... xyz' - is that abuse?

2. If someone says stupid things because he/she is stupid (ie says says stupid things as a matter of personal policy and outlook), and you say to him: 'you speak like that because you are stupid" - is that abuse?

I mean, are there no idiots any more? Is every point of view, no matter how demonstratively unreasoned, how evidently inconsistent, how obviously blind needs to be respected and treated as 'valid'? Has all this self-esteem mongering that starts in kindy seeped into the life of adults now? Now even adults have to be sheltered from  their stupidity for fear of their developing of self-esteem related 'issues'?
It seems to me to be a result of the feminisation of education and then social interaction and discourse. Everyone now must beat around the bush like girls. No spade is vre called a spade because direct, frank language is seen s too masculine (ie aggressive).. What's happening?

I don't just mean on this forum but in the broader context. Some people should not be sheltered from the fact that they are idiots. As long as you tell them what was stupid and why in what they said or did, this should be seen as a valuable civic, manly virtue, not as abuse, not as bitching.

I have been called all sorts of things on this forum but I have never whined to the Mods. Why is it that only idiots whine to the mods? I am interested in the psychology of the whining idiots.

Whaddaya reckon?

Soren you are prolly the stupidest person on this forum. Dont be offended though mate its for your own good we tell you this.

SOB

It's a real contest as to who is the stupidest here.
There's about a dozen candidates. Just when you think someone takes the prize, along comes another contender that gives them a run for their money.

freediver wrote on Jun 10^th, 2012 at 2:44pm:


Being an adult, this is the only way I have ever identified idiots.

But I must say, when someone says stupid things consistently, unfailingly - I think that needs to be recognised and a citation along the lines of 'you fooking idiot, you are amazingly thick' is in order. I think merit must be recognised and spoken of. It is not easy for some of the people here to show up every day, hail or shine, and be fooking idiots. We must not shy away from recognising such everyday heroes. We can't pat them on the head, so we have only words to encourage them.

Am I too generous? Maybe. But I like to recognise effort. It's good for morale, in my experience.

Okay - you obviously want a bone

Quote:


"you fooking idiot, you are amazingly thick"



SOB

Thats hilarious. Men do exactly the same thing as women. Dramas abound., Just look @ parliament. Look @ abbott. Look @ his whining all the time to the media (and subsequently all of us) about gillard all the time. And what do you talk to with a bunch of mates with beers? Football for a lil while then you talk about other ppl that arent there. you just dont call it "gossip" when you do it.

Maybe women dont talk generally about football so much and men dont talk about dresses so much but the idea and basic premise is the same.

SOB

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 10^th, 2012 at 4:45pm:



There you go, bitching and then  starting a gossip campaign.
What did I tell y'all?

JC Denton wrote on Jun 10^th, 2012 at 7:35pm:


Thank you. I started this for all of us.


I think idiots know they are idiots. If they were really ignorant of it they would have been run over by a truck at age 7. They couldn't possibly go through life not knowing that they are not actually understanding anything going on around them.

That's the dilemma. How can they be idiots yet navigate through daily life?