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progressiveslol Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17029	Re: Gillard did very well, on Q&A Reply #15 - Jun 12^th, 2012 at 9:53am Apprently Gillard lied in almost every sentence she uttered and typically ABC did not hold her to account. I can see why Abbott is not interested in going on the ABC.
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Armchair_Politician Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 26063 Gender:	Re: Gillard did very well, on Q&A Reply #16 - Jun 12^th, 2012 at 9:53am Gillard also said that TPV's under the Howard governments' Pacific Solution did not work. She's living in la-la land!!! Boats virtually stopped under Howard, yet take a look at the following since Labor won office... Uploaded with ImageShack.us
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Re: Gillard did very well, on Q&A
Reply #17 - Jun 12^th, 2012 at 10:00am

Yes, Miss Gillard did extremely well on Q&A and, yet again, campaigned very successfully for the soon to be returned Coalition.

Miss Gillard is indeed the Coalition's most valuable election winning asset and last night's Q&A only increased Miss Gillard's value as Q&A's few viewers were left gasping with incredulous disbelief.

The Coalition's greatest fear is that Miss Gillard will be replaced as "Prime Minister" and stop campaigning so tirelessly and brilliantly for them.

A heartfelt thanks is due to Miss Gillard, Mr Thomson, and Mr Slipper - thank you very much for your efforts to restore the rightful Coalition government in Australia.

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Re: Gillard did very well, on Q&A
Reply #18 - Jun 12^th, 2012 at 10:04am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 12^th, 2012 at 6:03am:

progressiveslol wrote on Jun 12^th, 2012 at 1:49am:

mozzaok wrote on Jun 12^th, 2012 at 12:06am:

progressiveslol wrote on Jun 11^th, 2012 at 11:51pm:

mozzaok wrote on Jun 11^th, 2012 at 11:40pm:

I watched the PM on Q&A tonight, and I am pleased that she finally has seen fit to try and develop a more personal style of dialogue with the electorate.
I bemoan the fact that she is far less politically aggressive than I would like, and that she did not begin to try and develop this type of engagement a lot sooner.

When she used the example of the Mabo case, to highlight the disgusting, divisive fear mongering, engaged in by the Liberal Nationals coalition, she did so with understated dignity.
I would have loved to see her stick the boot in, like Keating would have.

The Libs are likely going to win on the false perception that they hold a high ground on moral issues, and before people blindly accept that, the immoral fear mongering, championed and spread with lies and misinformation, that they seem to take so much delight in, should be held up before all, and shown as the lowly behaviour that it really is.

Thats an hysterically inaccurate claim. Wayne Swan said so.

REALLY?
Gee, ALAN JONES the spruiking coalition cheerleader, telling people day in day out, they would lose their farms, that no back yards are safe. Claims it would open the floodgates to native title claims across the nation, that would put every property owner in jeopardy?????

Never happened????

I guess that leopard must have changed his spots.
You must be right progs, the Libs would never engage in such deceitful, divisive fear mongering, after all, they are the ones sitting on the Moral High Ground, they hate liars.
Unless of course the lies happen to suit their political aspirations at the time.
What is that H word again?

No-one claims that any politician is free of lies. Just too bad for labor and gillard that their timing, a new tax lie and extent (extremists for not liking our lie) were bad.

BTW the highlighted text was a reference to labor saying Abbott was fear mongering, when in fact he was telling the truth. That alone, played over and over, would go a long way to winning him the election.

Truth is on Abbott's side. The electorate is fed-up with the lies of Gillard.

your kidding?? the man even admits he lies and that you can't hold him to it unless it's in writing ..... whilst I heard julia say no carbon tax, she didn't write it down as far as I know ... why don't you hold her to the same standard? hypocrite

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Re: Gillard did very well, on Q&A
Reply #19 - Jun 12^th, 2012 at 10:04am

John Smith wrote on Jun 12^th, 2012 at 10:04am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 12^th, 2012 at 6:03am:

progressiveslol wrote on Jun 12^th, 2012 at 1:49am:

mozzaok wrote on Jun 12^th, 2012 at 12:06am:

progressiveslol wrote on Jun 11^th, 2012 at 11:51pm:

mozzaok wrote on Jun 11^th, 2012 at 11:40pm:

I watched the PM on Q&A tonight, and I am pleased that she finally has seen fit to try and develop a more personal style of dialogue with the electorate.
I bemoan the fact that she is far less politically aggressive than I would like, and that she did not begin to try and develop this type of engagement a lot sooner.

When she used the example of the Mabo case, to highlight the disgusting, divisive fear mongering, engaged in by the Liberal Nationals coalition, she did so with understated dignity.
I would have loved to see her stick the boot in, like Keating would have.

The Libs are likely going to win on the false perception that they hold a high ground on moral issues, and before people blindly accept that, the immoral fear mongering, championed and spread with lies and misinformation, that they seem to take so much delight in, should be held up before all, and shown as the lowly behaviour that it really is.

Thats an hysterically inaccurate claim. Wayne Swan said so.

REALLY?
Gee, ALAN JONES the spruiking coalition cheerleader, telling people day in day out, they would lose their farms, that no back yards are safe. Claims it would open the floodgates to native title claims across the nation, that would put every property owner in jeopardy?????

Never happened????

I guess that leopard must have changed his spots.
You must be right progs, the Libs would never engage in such deceitful, divisive fear mongering, after all, they are the ones sitting on the Moral High Ground, they hate liars.
Unless of course the lies happen to suit their political aspirations at the time.
What is that H word again?

No-one claims that any politician is free of lies. Just too bad for labor and gillard that their timing, a new tax lie and extent (extremists for not liking our lie) were bad.

BTW the highlighted text was a reference to labor saying Abbott was fear mongering, when in fact he was telling the truth. That alone, played over and over, would go a long way to winning him the election.

Truth is on Abbott's side. The electorate is fed-up with the lies of Gillard.

your kidding?? the man even admits he lies and that you can't hold him to it unless it's in writing ..... whilst I heard julia say no carbon tax, she didn't write it down as far as I know ... why don't you hold her to the same standard? hypocrite

Gillard doesn't have a standard - just a need to be PM and nothing else matters.

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Reply #20 - Jun 12^th, 2012 at 10:05am

mozzaok wrote on Jun 11^th, 2012 at 11:40pm:

I watched the PM on Q&A tonight, and I am pleased that she finally has seen fit to try and develop a more personal style of dialogue with the electorate.
I bemoan the fact that she is far less politically aggressive than I would like, and that she did not begin to try and develop this type of engagement a lot sooner.

When she used the example of the Mabo case, to highlight the disgusting, divisive fear mongering, engaged in by the Liberal Nationals coalition, she did so with understated dignity.
I would have loved to see her stick the boot in, like Keating would have.

The Libs are likely going to win on the false perception that they hold a high ground on moral issues, and before people blindly accept that, the immoral fear mongering, championed and spread with lies and misinformation, that they seem to take so much delight in, should be held up before all, and shown as the lowly behaviour that it really is.

Yes the understated dignity which our PM displayed last night was refreshing.

The 1st questioner was delicately put into her place, whining she gets nothing but admitting shes on an income of over 150K.
Tony tried to divert with stupid leadership & party room infighting but again was put in his place in a calm authoritative way.

She not backing away either with more reforms on the way, others may shirk but it seems she has adopted the "Die on your Feet" attitude & bloody good on her.

Abbott remains absent from any form of serious political program & is happy to have his ass kissed by the morning programs, as alluded too previously he avoids unscripted interviews like the plague.

Anyhoo just my 2 cents worth, if as our Liberal friends say the electorate has stopped listening they have nothing to worry about & we can look forward to having a gutless short sighted PM for at least 3 years.

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Reply #21 - Jun 12^th, 2012 at 10:05am

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Apprently Gillard lied in almost every sentence she uttered and typically ABC did not hold her to account.

What lies?

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Yes, Miss Gillard did extremely well on Q&A and, yet again, campaigned very successfully for the soon to be returned Coalition.

you mean perhaps in 18 months they might get in? Not if abbott is still there.

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Reply #22 - Jun 12^th, 2012 at 10:07am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 12^th, 2012 at 10:04am:

John Smith wrote on Jun 12^th, 2012 at 10:04am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 12^th, 2012 at 6:03am:

progressiveslol wrote on Jun 12^th, 2012 at 1:49am:

mozzaok wrote on Jun 12^th, 2012 at 12:06am:

progressiveslol wrote on Jun 11^th, 2012 at 11:51pm:

mozzaok wrote on Jun 11^th, 2012 at 11:40pm:

I watched the PM on Q&A tonight, and I am pleased that she finally has seen fit to try and develop a more personal style of dialogue with the electorate.
I bemoan the fact that she is far less politically aggressive than I would like, and that she did not begin to try and develop this type of engagement a lot sooner.

When she used the example of the Mabo case, to highlight the disgusting, divisive fear mongering, engaged in by the Liberal Nationals coalition, she did so with understated dignity.
I would have loved to see her stick the boot in, like Keating would have.

The Libs are likely going to win on the false perception that they hold a high ground on moral issues, and before people blindly accept that, the immoral fear mongering, championed and spread with lies and misinformation, that they seem to take so much delight in, should be held up before all, and shown as the lowly behaviour that it really is.

Thats an hysterically inaccurate claim. Wayne Swan said so.

REALLY?
Gee, ALAN JONES the spruiking coalition cheerleader, telling people day in day out, they would lose their farms, that no back yards are safe. Claims it would open the floodgates to native title claims across the nation, that would put every property owner in jeopardy?????

Never happened????

I guess that leopard must have changed his spots.
You must be right progs, the Libs would never engage in such deceitful, divisive fear mongering, after all, they are the ones sitting on the Moral High Ground, they hate liars.
Unless of course the lies happen to suit their political aspirations at the time.
What is that H word again?

No-one claims that any politician is free of lies. Just too bad for labor and gillard that their timing, a new tax lie and extent (extremists for not liking our lie) were bad.

BTW the highlighted text was a reference to labor saying Abbott was fear mongering, when in fact he was telling the truth. That alone, played over and over, would go a long way to winning him the election.

Truth is on Abbott's side. The electorate is fed-up with the lies of Gillard.

your kidding?? the man even admits he lies and that you can't hold him to it unless it's in writing ..... whilst I heard julia say no carbon tax, she didn't write it down as far as I know ... why don't you hold her to the same standard? hypocrite

Gillard doesn't have a standard - just a need to be PM and nothing else matters.

thats rich coming from someone from the tony abbott camp ... he believes it to be his birth right .... tell me, why doesn't he do interviews that are NOT pre scripted? afraid of the truth is he?

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Reply #23 - Jun 12^th, 2012 at 10:07am

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 12^th, 2012 at 10:05am:

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Apprently Gillard lied in almost every sentence she uttered and typically ABC did not hold her to account.

What lies?

For one, she claimed that under Howard the TPV's "didn't make a difference", to use her exact words. All the evidence that is freely available to her points to the complete opposite.

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Yes, Miss Gillard did extremely well on Q&A and, yet again, campaigned very successfully for the soon to be returned Coalition.

you mean perhaps in 18 months they might get in? Not if abbott is still there.

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Reply #24 - Jun 12^th, 2012 at 10:11am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 12^th, 2012 at 9:53am:

Gillard also said that TPV's under the Howard governments' Pacific Solution did not work. She's living in la-la land!!! Boats virtually stopped under Howard, yet take a look at the following since Labor won office...

http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/5669/659424asylumseekerseven.jpg

Good of you to totally miss the point she made .... you pick 3 words out of her whole statement and jump up and down like a 2 yr old .. what she said was they didn't work insofar as they didn't allow refugees to bring their families to AUstralia once they were in country (with family reunion visa's) , therefore forcing woman and children onto boats because there was no other way they could join their husbands ..

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Reply #25 - Jun 12^th, 2012 at 10:14am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 12^th, 2012 at 10:07am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 12^th, 2012 at 10:05am:

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Apprently Gillard lied in almost every sentence she uttered and typically ABC did not hold her to account.

What lies?

For one, she claimed that under Howard the TPV's "didn't make a difference", to use her exact words. All the evidence that is freely available to her points to the complete opposite.

Quote:

Yes, Miss Gillard did extremely well on Q&A and, yet again, campaigned very successfully for the soon to be returned Coalition.

you mean perhaps in 18 months they might get in? Not if abbott is still there.

SOB

They didn't, they just forced more women & children onto boats due to their restrictive nature.
Did you miss the answer?
Or don't you care that more women & children got onto boats to reunite with husbands & fathers?

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Reply #26 - Jun 12^th, 2012 at 10:17am

John Smith wrote on Jun 12^th, 2012 at 10:11am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 12^th, 2012 at 9:53am:

Gillard also said that TPV's under the Howard governments' Pacific Solution did not work. She's living in la-la land!!! Boats virtually stopped under Howard, yet take a look at the following since Labor won office...

http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/5669/659424asylumseekerseven.jpg

Good of you to totally miss the point she made .... you pick 3 words out of her whole statement and jump up and down like a 2 yr old .. what she said was they didn't work insofar as they didn't allow refugees to bring their families to AUstralia once they were in country (with family reunion visa's) , therefore forcing woman and children onto boats because there was no other way they could join their husbands ..

Gillard said that TPV's didn't make a difference at stopping the boats. She was WRONG!!!

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Reply #27 - Jun 12^th, 2012 at 10:24am

Dsmithy70 wrote on Jun 12^th, 2012 at 10:14am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 12^th, 2012 at 10:07am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 12^th, 2012 at 10:05am:

Quote:

Apprently Gillard lied in almost every sentence she uttered and typically ABC did not hold her to account.

What lies?

For one, she claimed that under Howard the TPV's "didn't make a difference", to use her exact words. All the evidence that is freely available to her points to the complete opposite.

Quote:

Yes, Miss Gillard did extremely well on Q&A and, yet again, campaigned very successfully for the soon to be returned Coalition.

you mean perhaps in 18 months they might get in? Not if abbott is still there.

SOB

They didn't, they just forced more women & children onto boats due to their restrictive nature.
Did you miss the answer?
Or don't you care that more women & children got onto boats to reunite with husbands & fathers?

As a father, I know that if I left my wife and kids back home while I go to Australia, it would only be because I was country shopping, not because I or they were in danger.

If I or they were in danger, we would all go.

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Re: Gillard did very well, on Q&A
Reply #28 - Jun 12^th, 2012 at 10:25am

progressiveslol wrote on Jun 12^th, 2012 at 10:24am:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Jun 12^th, 2012 at 10:14am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 12^th, 2012 at 10:07am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 12^th, 2012 at 10:05am:

Quote:

Apprently Gillard lied in almost every sentence she uttered and typically ABC did not hold her to account.

What lies?

For one, she claimed that under Howard the TPV's "didn't make a difference", to use her exact words. All the evidence that is freely available to her points to the complete opposite.

Quote:

Yes, Miss Gillard did extremely well on Q&A and, yet again, campaigned very successfully for the soon to be returned Coalition.

you mean perhaps in 18 months they might get in? Not if abbott is still there.

SOB

They didn't, they just forced more women & children onto boats due to their restrictive nature.
Did you miss the answer?
Or don't you care that more women & children got onto boats to reunite with husbands & fathers?

As a father, I know that if I left my wife and kids back home while I go to Australia, it would only be because I was country shopping, not because I or they were in danger.

If I or they were in danger, we would all go.

Exactly. If the danger was so real in their home country, they would never leave their wife and children behind. I certainly wouldn't!

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Reply #29 - Jun 12^th, 2012 at 10:38am

progressiveslol wrote on Jun 12^th, 2012 at 10:24am:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Jun 12^th, 2012 at 10:14am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 12^th, 2012 at 10:07am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 12^th, 2012 at 10:05am:

Quote:

Apprently Gillard lied in almost every sentence she uttered and typically ABC did not hold her to account.

What lies?

For one, she claimed that under Howard the TPV's "didn't make a difference", to use her exact words. All the evidence that is freely available to her points to the complete opposite.

Quote:

Yes, Miss Gillard did extremely well on Q&A and, yet again, campaigned very successfully for the soon to be returned Coalition.

you mean perhaps in 18 months they might get in? Not if abbott is still there.

SOB

They didn't, they just forced more women & children onto boats due to their restrictive nature.
Did you miss the answer?
Or don't you care that more women & children got onto boats to reunite with husbands & fathers?

As a father, I know that if I left my wife and kids back home while I go to Australia, it would only be because I was country shopping, not because I or they were in danger.

If I or they were in danger, we would all go.

go where? they didn't have definite destinations, they don't know what will happen or even how they will do it .. many go to see what they can find before sending for their wife and kids. ....

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