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Re: Why should Labor vote to repeal the carbon tax?
Reply #60 - Jun 15^th, 2012 at 9:14pm

matty wrote on Jun 15^th, 2012 at 8:57pm:

TheGreenLight wrote on Jun 14^th, 2012 at 8:30pm:

If the Coalition win the next election, which is improbable in my view, then why should Labor vote for the carbon tax to be repealed? Everyone who votes for them will have voted knowing that they want the carbon tax to remain, so they will be in effect voting for the carbon tax. Why should those Labor MPs turn their back on their constituents?

I'm happy to discuss the topic, but firstly could you please explain the bolded? Huh

Explain what? your ignorance of the primary statement?? come on Matty we all; know you are an idiot but that really is waving not drowning.

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corporate_whitey Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 8896 Archivist	Re: Why should Labor vote to repeal the carbon tax? Reply #61 - Jun 15^th, 2012 at 9:15pm The Carbon Tax should be declared illegitimate by the High Court, that is one way to repeal it, then Tony Abbott can put it to a referendum. That is my preferred way of resolving this once and for all. A once only winner takes all vote.
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Re: Why should Labor vote to repeal the carbon tax?
Reply #62 - Jun 15^th, 2012 at 9:39pm

nairbe wrote on Jun 15^th, 2012 at 9:14pm:

matty wrote on Jun 15^th, 2012 at 8:57pm:

TheGreenLight wrote on Jun 14^th, 2012 at 8:30pm:

If the Coalition win the next election, which is improbable in my view, then why should Labor vote for the carbon tax to be repealed? Everyone who votes for them will have voted knowing that they want the carbon tax to remain, so they will be in effect voting for the carbon tax. Why should those Labor MPs turn their back on their constituents?

I'm happy to discuss the topic, but firstly could you please explain the bolded? Huh

Explain what? your ignorance of the primary statement?? come on Matty we all; know you are an idiot but that really is waving not drowning.

Yes, it is highly probable that the Coalition are going to lose the next election, isn't it?

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Re: Why should Labor vote to repeal the carbon tax?
Reply #63 - Jun 15^th, 2012 at 9:44pm

corporate_whitey wrote on Jun 15^th, 2012 at 9:15pm:

The Carbon Tax should be declared illegitimate by the High Court, that is one way to repeal it, then Tony Abbott can put it to a referendum. That is my preferred way of resolving this once and for all. A once only winner takes all vote.

Well then sh1t for brains, if it is winner takes all you and all your dumb arse sh1t that you sprook are out the door. The whitie has defeated your idiotic rubbish and you are extinct. Grin

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Re: Why should Labor vote to repeal the carbon tax?
Reply #64 - Jun 15^th, 2012 at 9:46pm

matty wrote on Jun 15^th, 2012 at 9:39pm:

nairbe wrote on Jun 15^th, 2012 at 9:14pm:

matty wrote on Jun 15^th, 2012 at 8:57pm:

TheGreenLight wrote on Jun 14^th, 2012 at 8:30pm:

If the Coalition win the next election, which is improbable in my view, then why should Labor vote for the carbon tax to be repealed? Everyone who votes for them will have voted knowing that they want the carbon tax to remain, so they will be in effect voting for the carbon tax. Why should those Labor MPs turn their back on their constituents?

I'm happy to discuss the topic, but firstly could you please explain the bolded? Huh

Explain what? your ignorance of the primary statement?? come on Matty we all; know you are an idiot but that really is waving not drowning.

Yes, it is highly probable that the Coalition are going to lose the next election, isn't it?

MMM, incapable of answering the question. Possibly one should get some remedial learning classes to help you. Tongue

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Re: Why should Labor vote to repeal the carbon tax?
Reply #65 - Jun 15^th, 2012 at 10:01pm

nairbe wrote on Jun 15^th, 2012 at 9:46pm:

matty wrote on Jun 15^th, 2012 at 9:39pm:

nairbe wrote on Jun 15^th, 2012 at 9:14pm:

matty wrote on Jun 15^th, 2012 at 8:57pm:

TheGreenLight wrote on Jun 14^th, 2012 at 8:30pm:

If the Coalition win the next election, which is improbable in my view, then why should Labor vote for the carbon tax to be repealed? Everyone who votes for them will have voted knowing that they want the carbon tax to remain, so they will be in effect voting for the carbon tax. Why should those Labor MPs turn their back on their constituents?

I'm happy to discuss the topic, but firstly could you please explain the bolded? Huh

Explain what? your ignorance of the primary statement?? come on Matty we all; know you are an idiot but that really is waving not drowning.

Yes, it is highly probable that the Coalition are going to lose the next election, isn't it?

MMM, incapable of answering the question. Possibly one should get some remedial learning classes to help you. Tongue

What question? I asked how it was improbable that the Coalition would win the next election.

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Re: Why should Labor vote to repeal the carbon tax?
Reply #66 - Jun 16^th, 2012 at 7:18am

____ wrote on Jun 14^th, 2012 at 10:16pm:

If the coalition lose the next election, which is looking more likely by the day, this means they must allow a conscious vote on marriage equality.

If not, then they have no grounds to demand anything of any other party.

What do you actually mean that if the Lib/Nat colilsion LOSE the Election.

What that means is we have a HUNG parliment and many minor partys fighting for control

One nation red necks and the like, maybe family first party members and GREENS

There has to be a outcome labor OR Lib/ nats colilsion we either continue with the carbon tax and the hardships entaled in that or we don't have a carbon tax , but we still have the hardships of the economy.

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Sir Spot of Borg Gold Member Offline WE ARE BORG Posts: 26513 Australia	Re: Why should Labor vote to repeal the carbon tax? Reply #67 - Jun 16^th, 2012 at 7:28am I doubt that abbott will remove the carbon tax after 18 months. SOB
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imcrookonit Ex Member	Re: Why should Labor vote to repeal the carbon tax? Reply #68 - Jun 16^th, 2012 at 7:34am still a fair way off until the next election. Mr Abbott may not win the 2013 election. The Liberals just can not come to terms with that. Labor might just win another term.
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Re: Why should Labor vote to repeal the carbon tax?
Reply #69 - Jun 16^th, 2012 at 9:59am

corporate_whitey wrote on Jun 15^th, 2012 at 7:47pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 15^th, 2012 at 7:41pm:

corporate_whitey wrote on Jun 15^th, 2012 at 7:38pm:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Jun 15^th, 2012 at 7:27pm:

corporate_whitey wrote on Jun 15^th, 2012 at 7:23pm:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Jun 15^th, 2012 at 7:20pm:

corporate_whitey wrote on Jun 15^th, 2012 at 7:13pm:

You do not get a legitimate mandate for major reform through a general election because there are too many variables in the result. Legitimacy for major reform only comes through a separate referendum requiring a majority of people in a majority of states supporting it. These corrupt politicians are trying to get around that through the general election and often outright lying to the voters then claiming a mandate - it is however tot legitimate.

I'd agree, but we'd be at the polls at least once a year if a referendum was required every time, nothing would get done.

Some things are not supposed to get done, somethings are not about reform, they are about corruption and criminal conspiracy and the public must have its final right of veto through a referendum. Put your carbon tax, your euthanasia and anything else like that to the people in a separate referendum or just leave it alone. Because circumventing the will of the people is not on.

You'd burst a valve Grin

Polls consistently go in favour of both Euthanasia and gay marriage, be careful what you wish for Wink

Bullshyte, the daily poll stats can be manipulated to say what ever you like - I am not afraid of referendum on these subjects..why then are your kind? Why are you always trying to manipulate the political system, flat out lie and anything else to thwart the democratic will of the people? You are gutless that's why and a corrupt toad.

sometimes the democratic will of the people has to be ignored for the benefit of those same people ... lets have a referendum on how much tax we all pay ... and see where that leaves the country .......

Bullshyte, for major reform, the people should always decide in a referendum, that is our only safeguard against political corruption and organized crime. It is not the people who lack common sense it is organized political corruption and crime.

so you ignore my question ... is that because your afraid of the answer? if we have a referendum to scrap taxes I say it would pass in a heartbeat ... where would that leave the country? common sense doesn't come into it .. if they had common sense Abbott would have gone long ago .... Joe publics common sense normally stops at his wallet

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longweekend58 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 45675 Gender:	Re: Why should Labor vote to repeal the carbon tax? Reply #70 - Jun 19^th, 2012 at 6:06pm Quote: still a fair way off until the next election. Mr Abbott may not win the 2013 election. The Liberals just can not come to terms with that. Labor might just win another term. idiot.
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Re: Why should Labor vote to repeal the carbon tax?
Reply #71 - Jun 19^th, 2012 at 6:11pm

John Smith wrote on Jun 16^th, 2012 at 9:59am:

corporate_whitey wrote on Jun 15^th, 2012 at 7:47pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 15^th, 2012 at 7:41pm:

corporate_whitey wrote on Jun 15^th, 2012 at 7:38pm:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Jun 15^th, 2012 at 7:27pm:

corporate_whitey wrote on Jun 15^th, 2012 at 7:23pm:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Jun 15^th, 2012 at 7:20pm:

corporate_whitey wrote on Jun 15^th, 2012 at 7:13pm:

You do not get a legitimate mandate for major reform through a general election because there are too many variables in the result. Legitimacy for major reform only comes through a separate referendum requiring a majority of people in a majority of states supporting it. These corrupt politicians are trying to get around that through the general election and often outright lying to the voters then claiming a mandate - it is however tot legitimate.

I'd agree, but we'd be at the polls at least once a year if a referendum was required every time, nothing would get done.

Some things are not supposed to get done, somethings are not about reform, they are about corruption and criminal conspiracy and the public must have its final right of veto through a referendum. Put your carbon tax, your euthanasia and anything else like that to the people in a separate referendum or just leave it alone. Because circumventing the will of the people is not on.

You'd burst a valve Grin

Polls consistently go in favour of both Euthanasia and gay marriage, be careful what you wish for Wink

Bullshyte, the daily poll stats can be manipulated to say what ever you like - I am not afraid of referendum on these subjects..why then are your kind? Why are you always trying to manipulate the political system, flat out lie and anything else to thwart the democratic will of the people? You are gutless that's why and a corrupt toad.

sometimes the democratic will of the people has to be ignored for the benefit of those same people ... lets have a referendum on how much tax we all pay ... and see where that leaves the country .......

Bullshyte, for major reform, the people should always decide in a referendum, that is our only safeguard against political corruption and organized crime. It is not the people who lack common sense it is organized political corruption and crime.

so you ignore my question ... is that because your afraid of the answer? if we have a referendum to scrap taxes I say it would pass in a heartbeat ... where would that leave the country? common sense doesn't come into it .. if they had common sense Abbott would have gone long ago .... Joe publics common sense normally stops at his wallet

Now there you go again who said anything about scrapping all taxes? He just said the GST and the Carbon tax needed to be rescinded by the High Court or the Parliament because they were unconstitutional and had no mandate. These Taxes did not go to the people in a plebiscite therefore they are illegal. Cool

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