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Re: Asylum shopping 101
Reply #15 - Jun 15^th, 2012 at 7:06pm

Avram Horowitz wrote on Jun 15^th, 2012 at 6:51pm:

Uncle Meat wrote on Jun 15^th, 2012 at 6:44pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Jun 15^th, 2012 at 6:29pm:

The crisis of lots of undesired refugees coming to Australia.

There is no such crisis. You have been misinformed.

I am in Australia this year I can see with my own eyes your population mix.
You have a lot of people I can see in sydney from these places.

Often too I can hear Iraqis speak on the bus.

So do you just assume that because they don't look like typical blond haired blue eyed Aussies, they must be refugees ? laughable especially considering your a stupid isreali here legally ... do you think that your the only one australia would allow in ... why would they let anyone else in when Avram is already here .....

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Reply #16 - Jun 15^th, 2012 at 7:07pm

Avram Horowitz wrote on Jun 15^th, 2012 at 6:52pm:

Gist wrote on Jun 15^th, 2012 at 6:49pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Jun 15^th, 2012 at 6:29pm:

The crisis of lots of undesired refugees coming to Australia.
In Israel we limit non jew people allowed to come for refugees.

Yes. Israel creates refugees. Other people then have to deal with them. This information is a few years old:

Host country Ratio of refugee population to total population Number of refugees
West Bank + Gaza 1:2 1'739'000
Jordan 1:6 862'700
Lebanon 1:13 294'200
Syria 1:15 1'329'300
Chad 1:35 286'800
Congo (DRC) 1:62 60'000
Ecuador 1:64 207'500
Iran 1:69 1'025'000
Cyprus 1:75 13'400
Pakistan 1:77 2'161'500
Tanzania 1:78 485'700
Saudi Arabia 1:100 241'100

Source: http://www.refugeecouncil.org.au/arp/stats-01.html

Every second person on the West Bank is a refugee. Australia's numbers are even a pimple in comparison.

Like I've said before, when we want to know how to get all our neighbours to bomb us, rest assured we'll come ask for your guidance. Until then...

Don't be stupid.
West Bank is stupid comparison you know that.

yeah Gist ... its a stupid comparison, now choose somewhere else where the figures don't show how full of poo Avram is ....

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Avram Horowitz Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3153 Australia Gender:	Re: Asylum shopping 101 Reply #17 - Jun 15^th, 2012 at 7:21pm West bank is not a country. It is disputed territory not recognised by UN. You think that is sensible to compare? Stupid.
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Reply #18 - Jun 15^th, 2012 at 7:26pm

Avram Horowitz wrote on Jun 15^th, 2012 at 7:21pm:

West bank is not a country. It is disputed territory not recognised by UN.
You think that is sensible to compare? Stupid.

So nobody lives there? The people that do don't have to deal with the refugees YOU create? You can ignore the problem because it is a "disputed territory"?

OK, fine with me. No sweat. We'll ignore Gaza too lest our little student of stupidity finds some other irrelevancy.

So... as I was saying... JORDAN... one in six people is a refugee. Australia's "crisis" is a pimple in comparison.

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Reply #19 - Jun 15^th, 2012 at 7:31pm

But why do you care about Jordan?
I don't and they are our neighbour.

Care about your own refugee problem and leave every one else to their own problem?

You know your problem? I see this in immigration centre in Sydney,. You are much too nice.
You give these people money homes and they can ride the bus free etc.

I cannot believe you spend so much on these people who do nothing good for you.

My friend and I, we both Tel Aviv people, we were unbelieving of what we saw!

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Avram Horowitz Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3153 Australia Gender:	Re: Asylum shopping 101 Reply #20 - Jun 15^th, 2012 at 7:34pm Have you thought if you were more hard in your rules then they would not come? Think. Why do they not stay in Asia? Because they are not as soft as you. In Israel we would never give like you. We are sending back our non jew undesireds.
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Reply #21 - Jun 15^th, 2012 at 7:40pm

Avram Horowitz wrote on Jun 15^th, 2012 at 7:31pm:

But why do you care about Jordan?
I don't and they are our neighbour.

Care about your own refugee problem and leave every one else to their own problem?
You know your problem? I see this in immigration centre in Sydney,. You are much too nice.
You give these people money homes and they can ride the bus free etc.

I cannot believe you spend so much on these people who do nothing good for you.

My friend and I, we both Tel Aviv people, we were unbelieving of what we saw!

I could tell you the same thing stupid ..... you have enough problems to worry about .. the guilt from murdering all those women and children must weight heavilly ... leave Australias refugee problem to Australia and worry about your own ....

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Reply #22 - Jun 15^th, 2012 at 7:41pm

Avram Horowitz wrote on Jun 15^th, 2012 at 7:31pm:

But why do you care about Jordan?
I don't and they are our neighbour.

Care about your own refugee problem and leave every one else to their own problem?

You know your problem? I see this in immigration centre in Sydney,. You are much too nice.
You give these people money homes and they can ride the bus free etc.

I cannot believe you spend so much on these people who do nothing good for you.

My friend and I, we both Tel Aviv people, we were unbelieving of what we saw!

So which part of that is your problem?

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Re: Asylum shopping 101
Reply #23 - Jun 15^th, 2012 at 7:42pm

John Smith wrote on Jun 15^th, 2012 at 7:40pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Jun 15^th, 2012 at 7:31pm:

But why do you care about Jordan?
I don't and they are our neighbour.

Care about your own refugee problem and leave every one else to their own problem?
You know your problem? I see this in immigration centre in Sydney,. You are much too nice.
You give these people money homes and they can ride the bus free etc.

I cannot believe you spend so much on these people who do nothing good for you.

My friend and I, we both Tel Aviv people, we were unbelieving of what we saw!

I could tell you the same thing stupid ..... you have enough problems to worry about .. the guilt from murdering all those women and children must weight heavilly ... leave Australias refugee problem to Australia and worry about your own ....

I am in Australia now this year.

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Reply #24 - Jun 15^th, 2012 at 7:46pm

Avram Horowitz wrote on Jun 15^th, 2012 at 7:34pm:

Have you thought if you were more hard in your rules then they would not come?
Think. Why do they not stay in Asia?
Because they are not as soft as you.

In Israel we would never give like you. We are sending back our non jew undesireds.

And you get bombs in return.

Go! Live in Israel. Get bombed. See if I care. You created the problem, you live with it. If I wanted to live like fools like you I'd go live in Israel. But I don't!

You know Avram, maybe I'm going about it all wrong. It occurs to me that I should listen very closely to your advice about what we should NOT do. And then I should make sure we do EXACTLY that.

"We should make more refugee centres because Avram said not to."

I like it. I'll call it the Avram Axiom. Grin

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Avram Horowitz Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3153 Australia Gender:	Re: Asylum shopping 101 Reply #25 - Jun 15^th, 2012 at 7:49pm But you support migrants and refugees don't you? Why? Are you one?
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Gist Gold Member Offline I am not a sock, I am a human being! Posts: 5476	Re: Asylum shopping 101 Reply #26 - Jun 15^th, 2012 at 7:51pm Avram Horowitz wrote on Jun 15^th, 2012 at 7:49pm: But you support migrants and refugees don't you? Why? Are you one? I'm not sure. Tell what I shouldn't support...
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Bertram Senior Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 255	Re: Asylum shopping 101 Reply #27 - Jun 15^th, 2012 at 8:28pm refugees should go to their own kind of country. why do asians want to go to australia? if australians had to run away from australia they would go to china or arab countries. they would go to a place that is more like australia. so why dont the chinese and arabs go to their own type of places?
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Reply #28 - Jun 15^th, 2012 at 9:38pm

Bertram wrote on Jun 15^th, 2012 at 8:28pm:

refugees should go to their own kind of country. why do asians want to go to australia? if australians had to run away from australia they would go to china or arab countries. they would go to a place that is more like australia. so why dont the chinese and arabs go to their own type of places?

Yes the Asian run to? that's right australia an Asian country, DER!!! Grin

Really this is such a stupid argument and i do mean stupid with all the demeaning and politically incorrect contradictions. They come here because we offer the best chance of a better life. They come here because this land of opportunity not only supports them but it supports their chance too pay for their family to be smuggled here too.

Do you really want to destroy these peoples hope for a better life and a future filled with possibility for their children and loved ones? then stop your pathetic whinging and vote for the Malaysian solution which is no less cruel or inhumane than the Pacific solution, it just belongs to a different group of Bigots.

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Re: Asylum shopping 101
Reply #29 - Jun 16^th, 2012 at 6:03am

nairbe wrote on Jun 15^th, 2012 at 9:38pm:

Bertram wrote on Jun 15^th, 2012 at 8:28pm:

refugees should go to their own kind of country. why do asians want to go to australia? if australians had to run away from australia they would go to china or arab countries. they would go to a place that is more like australia. so why dont the chinese and arabs go to their own type of places?

Yes the Asian run to? that's right australia an Asian country, DER!!! Grin

Really this is such a stupid argument and i do mean stupid with all the demeaning and politically incorrect contradictions. They come here because we offer the best chance of a better life. They come here because this land of opportunity not only supports them but it supports their chance too pay for their family to be smuggled here too.

Do you really want to destroy these peoples hope for a better life and a future filled with possibility for their children and loved ones? then stop your pathetic whinging and vote for the Malaysian solution which is no less cruel or inhumane than the Pacific solution, it just belongs to a different group of Bigots.

They dont all come here. Some go to UK and NZ and other countries. They go wherever they can.

Israel obviously will not show any compassion so should be shown none.

We accept immigrants and other countries accept australian immigrants.

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