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Reply #150 - Jun 19^th, 2012 at 1:57pm

Gist wrote on Jun 19^th, 2012 at 1:44pm:

matty wrote on Jun 19^th, 2012 at 1:40pm:

PoliticalReality wrote on Jun 19^th, 2012 at 1:35pm:

matty wrote on Jun 19^th, 2012 at 1:24pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 19^th, 2012 at 1:23pm:

matty wrote on Jun 19^th, 2012 at 11:11am:

Gist wrote on Jun 19^th, 2012 at 11:09am:

matty wrote on Jun 19^th, 2012 at 10:24am:

Yet I have asked for proof of your claims many times, and have thus far benn given NOTHING.

And many times have I explained it to you, yet you fail to understand. I can't help it if you are too stupid to understand.

No, you haven't.

When you PROVE the claims against Slipper are true, we may feel a need to prove our claims, but since you haven't proven anything you can't ask others to do what you yourself refuse to do ... now do you get it?

I'm not making allegations though, and that is the difference. Gist and others are saying that it's a clear conspiracy, and have no evidence whatsoever. I am saying that the texts clearly demonstrate a sexual interest in Mr Ashby, which they do.

Ummm no they don't

Trying reading them again without

1. Assuming he's guilty and
2. Your obvious fear of all things gay

They don't show a sexual interest? Have you even read them?

That's not proof of anything. Where's your PROOF dimwit.

The sexually explicit texts. You're really that thick, aren't you?

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Reply #151 - Jun 19^th, 2012 at 2:18pm

matty wrote on Jun 19^th, 2012 at 1:24pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 19^th, 2012 at 1:23pm:

matty wrote on Jun 19^th, 2012 at 11:11am:

Gist wrote on Jun 19^th, 2012 at 11:09am:

matty wrote on Jun 19^th, 2012 at 10:24am:

Yet I have asked for proof of your claims many times, and have thus far benn given NOTHING.

And many times have I explained it to you, yet you fail to understand. I can't help it if you are too stupid to understand.

No, you haven't.

When you PROVE the claims against Slipper are true, we may feel a need to prove our claims, but since you haven't proven anything you can't ask others to do what you yourself refuse to do ... now do you get it?

I'm not making allegations though, and that is the difference. Gist and others are saying that it's a clear conspiracy, and have no evidence whatsoever. I am saying that the texts clearly demonstrate a sexual interest in Mr Ashby, which they do.

but you are ... everytime you call lab or it's supporters names because they say that its a set up, your assuming that the allegations are true ... where is the proof if that is the case? It has as much possibility of being a set up as it has of anything else. .... I would tend to think that if there was any truth to the claims he would have been charged, and if there is no truth to it, then in all likely hood its a set up ... what was Ashby promised in exchange? he has already proven he can't be trusted .... why would you believe soemthing just because he says so?

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Reply #152 - Jun 19^th, 2012 at 2:37pm

matty wrote on Jun 19^th, 2012 at 1:40pm:

PoliticalReality wrote on Jun 19^th, 2012 at 1:35pm:

matty wrote on Jun 19^th, 2012 at 1:24pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 19^th, 2012 at 1:23pm:

matty wrote on Jun 19^th, 2012 at 11:11am:

Gist wrote on Jun 19^th, 2012 at 11:09am:

matty wrote on Jun 19^th, 2012 at 10:24am:

Yet I have asked for proof of your claims many times, and have thus far benn given NOTHING.

And many times have I explained it to you, yet you fail to understand. I can't help it if you are too stupid to understand.

No, you haven't.

When you PROVE the claims against Slipper are true, we may feel a need to prove our claims, but since you haven't proven anything you can't ask others to do what you yourself refuse to do ... now do you get it?

I'm not making allegations though, and that is the difference. Gist and others are saying that it's a clear conspiracy, and have no evidence whatsoever. I am saying that the texts clearly demonstrate a sexual interest in Mr Ashby, which they do.

Ummm no they don't

Trying reading them again without

1. Assuming he's guilty and
2. Your obvious fear of all things gay

They don't show a sexual interest? Have you even read them?

They talk about "getting closer" = that's not sexual

They talk about "giving massages" = that's not sexual

Slipper talks about Ashby "getting rocks off" but he's clearing talking in reference to with someone else

Slipper obviously drinks a lot and appears to be somewhat odd but none of that adds up to sexual harassment

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Reply #153 - Jun 19^th, 2012 at 4:01pm

PoliticalReality wrote on Jun 19^th, 2012 at 2:37pm:

matty wrote on Jun 19^th, 2012 at 1:40pm:

PoliticalReality wrote on Jun 19^th, 2012 at 1:35pm:

matty wrote on Jun 19^th, 2012 at 1:24pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 19^th, 2012 at 1:23pm:

matty wrote on Jun 19^th, 2012 at 11:11am:

Gist wrote on Jun 19^th, 2012 at 11:09am:

matty wrote on Jun 19^th, 2012 at 10:24am:

Yet I have asked for proof of your claims many times, and have thus far benn given NOTHING.

And many times have I explained it to you, yet you fail to understand. I can't help it if you are too stupid to understand.

No, you haven't.

When you PROVE the claims against Slipper are true, we may feel a need to prove our claims, but since you haven't proven anything you can't ask others to do what you yourself refuse to do ... now do you get it?

I'm not making allegations though, and that is the difference. Gist and others are saying that it's a clear conspiracy, and have no evidence whatsoever. I am saying that the texts clearly demonstrate a sexual interest in Mr Ashby, which they do.

Ummm no they don't

Trying reading them again without

1. Assuming he's guilty and
2. Your obvious fear of all things gay

They don't show a sexual interest? Have you even read them?

They talk about "getting closer" = that's not sexual

They talk about "giving massages" = that's not sexual

Slipper talks about Ashby "getting rocks off" but he's clearing talking in reference to with someone else

Slipper obviously drinks a lot and appears to be somewhat odd but none of that adds up to sexual harassment

And where is Ashby's side of the conversation? I've never seen them. How do I know that these texts aren't bits of a perfectly normal conversation that's been taken completely out of context? Why do we only see one side of the conversation?

These aren't PROOF matty, these are your masturbationary fantasies. Stop fiddling with your dick and give us PROOF.

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Reply #154 - Jun 19^th, 2012 at 4:52pm

matty wrote on Jun 18^th, 2012 at 9:23pm:

Gist wrote on Jun 18^th, 2012 at 1:09pm:

matty wrote on Jun 18^th, 2012 at 10:51am:

Gist wrote on Jun 18^th, 2012 at 10:41am:

matty wrote on Jun 18^th, 2012 at 10:23am:

Thank you very much for yet again proving my point.

You still don't understand it do you?

Yes, I do. You have no evidence for your claims of a conspiracy between Mr Ashby and LNP members.

No, you don't understand that anyone who made soooooo many repeated, baseless claims against others without proof has absolutely lost any right to even hint at asking for proof.

Sit on it and swivel. That's your proof.

I missed this earlier. This is an absolutely and utter lie, and demonstrates the desperation that I would expect from a pathetic ALP supporter. No proof, no evidence, just smear and lying.

Exactly, Matty. This is just the sort of sexual harrassment we have come to expect from these leftards.

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Reply #155 - Jun 19^th, 2012 at 4:55pm

Gist wrote on Jun 19^th, 2012 at 4:01pm:

PoliticalReality wrote on Jun 19^th, 2012 at 2:37pm:

matty wrote on Jun 19^th, 2012 at 1:40pm:

PoliticalReality wrote on Jun 19^th, 2012 at 1:35pm:

matty wrote on Jun 19^th, 2012 at 1:24pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 19^th, 2012 at 1:23pm:

matty wrote on Jun 19^th, 2012 at 11:11am:

Gist wrote on Jun 19^th, 2012 at 11:09am:

matty wrote on Jun 19^th, 2012 at 10:24am:

Yet I have asked for proof of your claims many times, and have thus far benn given NOTHING.

And many times have I explained it to you, yet you fail to understand. I can't help it if you are too stupid to understand.

No, you haven't.

When you PROVE the claims against Slipper are true, we may feel a need to prove our claims, but since you haven't proven anything you can't ask others to do what you yourself refuse to do ... now do you get it?

I'm not making allegations though, and that is the difference. Gist and others are saying that it's a clear conspiracy, and have no evidence whatsoever. I am saying that the texts clearly demonstrate a sexual interest in Mr Ashby, which they do.

Ummm no they don't

Trying reading them again without

1. Assuming he's guilty and
2. Your obvious fear of all things gay

They don't show a sexual interest? Have you even read them?

They talk about "getting closer" = that's not sexual

They talk about "giving massages" = that's not sexual

Slipper talks about Ashby "getting rocks off" but he's clearing talking in reference to with someone else

Slipper obviously drinks a lot and appears to be somewhat odd but none of that adds up to sexual harassment

And where is Ashby's side of the conversation? I've never seen them. How do I know that these texts aren't bits of a perfectly normal conversation that's been taken completely out of context? Why do we only see one side of the conversation?

These aren't PROOF matty, these are your masturbationary fantasies. Stop fiddling with your dick and give us PROOF.

Excuse me, Matty does not fantasize or "fiddle with his dick" as you put it. He is engaged to be married.

I'll be pleased to let you know that none of them have "dicks", so kindly keep your disgusting thoughts and insinuations to yourself.

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matty Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 11055 East Sydney Gender:	Re: Ashby case about to explode IN Liberals face. Reply #156 - Jun 19^th, 2012 at 7:31pm Anyone who's read the texts would see that Slipper was sexually interested in Ash by. It's not my fault if some people are too dumb and/or partisan to see that.
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Dsmithy70 Gold Member Offline ire futuis vobismetipsis Posts: 13147 Newy Gender:	Re: Ashby case about to explode IN Liberals face. Reply #157 - Jun 19^th, 2012 at 7:35pm matty wrote on Jun 19^th, 2012 at 7:31pm: Anyone who's read the texts would see that Slipper was sexually interested in Ash by. It's not my fault if some people are too dumb and/or partisan to see that. And your sure Ashby was not interested in Slipper. Whether for sex or employment advancement?
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Reply #158 - Jun 19^th, 2012 at 7:38pm

matty wrote on Jun 19^th, 2012 at 7:31pm:

Anyone who's read the texts would see that Slipper was sexually interested in Ash by. It's not my fault if some people are too dumb and/or partisan to see that.

What it does not show is if the messages were encouraged by Ashby and if Slipper had a right to believe that the behaviour was reasonable and based on a consensual position.

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Reply #159 - Jun 19^th, 2012 at 7:47pm

Dsmithy70 wrote on Jun 19^th, 2012 at 7:35pm:

matty wrote on Jun 19^th, 2012 at 7:31pm:

Anyone who's read the texts would see that Slipper was sexually interested in Ash by. It's not my fault if some people are too dumb and/or partisan to see that.

And your sure Ashby was not interested in Slipper.
Whether for sex or employment advancement?

Why deflect? Why didn't you respond to my actual post?

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Reply #160 - Jun 19^th, 2012 at 7:48pm

Dnarever wrote on Jun 19^th, 2012 at 7:38pm:

matty wrote on Jun 19^th, 2012 at 7:31pm:

Anyone who's read the texts would see that Slipper was sexually interested in Ash by. It's not my fault if some people are too dumb and/or partisan to see that.

What it does not show is if the messages were encouraged by Ashby and if Slipper had a right to believe that the behaviour was reasonable and based on a consensual position.

Ash by clearly said in at least one text that he wanted no part of a sexual relationship.

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Reply #161 - Jun 19^th, 2012 at 8:36pm

prurient little wnkrs arn't you.

Bet you got a buzz out of 'those' texts..... like wallowing in what you perceive as sexually deviant behaviour.

I wouldn't read those 'texts' ..simply because they are just a part of the whole, and I don't have the power or knowledge to consider them dispassionately... I choose to leave that to the experts.

But go on getting your wee stones off, you jokes.

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Reply #162 - Jun 19^th, 2012 at 9:01pm

Emma wrote on Jun 19^th, 2012 at 8:36pm:

prurient little wnkrs arn't you.

Bet you got a buzz out of 'those' texts..... like wallowing in what you perceive as sexually deviant behaviour.

I wouldn't read those 'texts' ..simply because they are just a part of the whole, and I don't have the power or knowledge to consider them dispassionately... I choose to leave that to the experts.

But go on getting your wee stones off, you jokes.

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Reply #164 - Jun 19^th, 2012 at 10:06pm

matty wrote on Jun 19^th, 2012 at 7:48pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jun 19^th, 2012 at 7:38pm:

matty wrote on Jun 19^th, 2012 at 7:31pm:

Anyone who's read the texts would see that Slipper was sexually interested in Ash by. It's not my fault if some people are too dumb and/or partisan to see that.

What it does not show is if the messages were encouraged by Ashby and if Slipper had a right to believe that the behaviour was reasonable and based on a consensual position.

Ash by clearly said in at least one text that he wanted no part of a sexual relationship.

Yes, Matty, but people say that sort of thing all the time.

You yourself have said that you don't want a sexual relationship. Do we take that at face value, or do we read your body language, your breath, your lips, tongue, fingers caressing, hands feeling, hips poised to, you know, plunge into momentary pleasure into your dear beloved?

Please explain.

And don't deflect. Please answer my original question.

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