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Reply #30 - Jun 15th, 2012 at 10:20pm
 
nairbe wrote on Jun 15th, 2012 at 10:16pm:
matty wrote on Jun 15th, 2012 at 9:31pm:
Slipper is guilty until proven innocent, and you can thank JuLIAR for that.


How dose your demented mind come up with that dopey the clown? The only one that has the hang man mentality is Abbott. You are a real choice cut. Angry Angry

Gillard/labor fair work Australia law says, guilty until proven innocent.

The labor party say 'get the hell out of our party until you prove yourself innocent and even then we dont want you back'
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Reply #31 - Jun 15th, 2012 at 10:20pm
 
nairbe wrote on Jun 15th, 2012 at 10:16pm:
matty wrote on Jun 15th, 2012 at 9:31pm:
Slipper is guilty until proven innocent, and you can thank JuLIAR for that.


How dose your demented mind come up with that dopey the clown? The only one that has the hang man mentality is Abbott. You are a real choice cut. Angry Angry


Gillard reversed the onus of proof. Have you seen section 361 of the Fairwork Act?
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Reply #32 - Jun 15th, 2012 at 10:31pm
 
matty wrote on Jun 15th, 2012 at 10:20pm:
nairbe wrote on Jun 15th, 2012 at 10:16pm:
matty wrote on Jun 15th, 2012 at 9:31pm:
Slipper is guilty until proven innocent, and you can thank JuLIAR for that.


How dose your demented mind come up with that dopey the clown? The only one that has the hang man mentality is Abbott. You are a real choice cut. Angry Angry


Gillard reversed the onus of proof. Have you seen section 361 of the Fairwork Act?


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It would seem that there is a very deep misunderstanding between legislative controles and legal proceedings. I deal regularly with a particular Act that has similar such controls. In fact in the Act i use in NSW i have the power to order you to answer questions whether you like it or not. This, if you understood the situation, is not a brief of evidence in a court nor unconditional in it's powers.
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Reply #33 - Jun 15th, 2012 at 10:34pm
 
matty wrote on Jun 15th, 2012 at 9:37pm:
Karnal wrote on Jun 15th, 2012 at 9:30pm:
matty wrote on Jun 15th, 2012 at 7:51pm:
Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jun 15th, 2012 at 5:18pm:
Karnal wrote on Jun 15th, 2012 at 5:08pm:
I've said it before and I'll say it again: it's not sexual harassment if James Ashby is found to be a cutie pie.

Also, if Mr Slipper is a hunk, James Ashby would not have to try very hard to get turned on. At the very least, he could easily lay there and get a hand job - this would save him going to the toilet for a wank. If he closed his eyes, he could imagine it was Mr Abbott in his bicycle pants.

I know Matty has a number of thoughts on this issue, but he's not making any statements at this time as the matter is before the courts.


I wonder if matty will be subpenaed to give evidence. I hope he doesn't get angeleyes mixed up in this, it could backfire on her prospects of getting that all important job.


Matty thinks that Slipper is a low-level sleaze, grub and pervert, and is desperately trying to get the case thrown out of court, because he has no defense. Even if there was a kind of set-up, which Matty doubts, it doesn't excuse, or even account for, the sexual texts sent from Slipper's phone to Mr Ashby's phone. Don't forget, Slipper is guilty until proven otherwise.


That's not what Matty said to me. He said he thought Mr Slipper's a hunk and what was James Ashby complaining about?

He also asked how two red-blooded, consenting males could let this happen to them. How could it possibly be sexual harassment? James Ashby and Mr Slipper were clearly horny. Why didn't they just sort it out between themselves?

Matty said heaps of guys had cracked onto him when he was a secretary in the city. He said if they bought him cocktails after work, anything was up for negotiation.


Matty isn't into 60 year-old men.


Why not? If they're high-earning specialists, Matty would do whatever it takes. That's just simple common sense.

It's also why Matty doesn't blame James Ashby for working his way up the Liberal ranks. James Ashby will get a staffer's job in Mr Pyne's next ministerial office, and then, who knows?

Matty didn't come down in the last shower.

He just accessorized in a clear raincoat and hat and a pair of heeled galoshes from Shooz, Wynyard concourse.
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Re: Ashby case about to explode IN Liberals face.
Reply #34 - Jun 15th, 2012 at 10:34pm
 
nairbe wrote on Jun 15th, 2012 at 10:31pm:
matty wrote on Jun 15th, 2012 at 10:20pm:
nairbe wrote on Jun 15th, 2012 at 10:16pm:
matty wrote on Jun 15th, 2012 at 9:31pm:
Slipper is guilty until proven innocent, and you can thank JuLIAR for that.


How dose your demented mind come up with that dopey the clown? The only one that has the hang man mentality is Abbott. You are a real choice cut. Angry Angry


Gillard reversed the onus of proof. Have you seen section 361 of the Fairwork Act?


OH dear! Sad Sad Sad
It would seem that there is a very deep misunderstanding between legislative controles and legal proceedings. I deal regularly with a particular Act that has similar such controls. In fact in the Act i use in NSW i have the power to order you to answer questions whether you like it or not. This, if you understood the situation, is not a brief of evidence in a court nor unconditional in it's powers.

How does that change the fact that fair work australia, the baby of labor, says in its law, you are guilty until proven innocent. How does it change the fact that labor said 'get out of our party until you prove yourself innocent' and we all know they are not going to endorse him anymore.
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Reply #35 - Jun 15th, 2012 at 10:42pm
 
How indeed. Matty isn't jealous of James Ashby, let's make that perfectly clear.

Matty thinks he did a good job on Mr Slipper and did his bit for the party, that's all.

If he gets a staffer's job in Mr Pyne's ministerial office for that, good luck to him. It's money for jam, really.

It doesn't prove he's got what it takes, that's for sure. He's still a lightweight Young Liberal wet. Nothing can change that, no matter how many massages he gives or how many dicks he wanks.

Matty's not some slut who will sell himself off to the highest bidder. Matty wants to save himself for Mr Right. Matty believes in governing in the interest of all Australians. If that means waiting in the sauna for Alan to finish, so be it.
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Reply #36 - Jun 16th, 2012 at 6:25am
 
http://www.waginargus.com.au/news/national/national/general/slipper-labor-hits-b...

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THE federal government has accused former aides of Peter Slipper, a News Ltd journalist, the former Howard government minister Mal Brough and other senior Queensland Coalition identities of formulating a sexual harassment claim with the aim of destroying the Speaker.

Following a Federal Court hearing yesterday about sexual harassment allegations against Mr Slipper by his former aide James Ashby, the Attorney-General, Nicola Roxon, said the action was a politically motivated abuse of process.

''The Commonwealth strongly believes that this process has been one which is really for an ulterior purpose, not for purposes of an ordinary workplace complaint,'' she said.

''A number of other participants other than the applicant [Mr Ashby] were party to formulating this complaint with the clear intent of publicising it before it was filed, with the clear intention of harming Mr Slipper and advantaging his political opponents.'' The Commonwealth will test its abuse-of-process application claim on July 23.

Ms Roxon said Commonwealth lawyers had obtained ''a vast amount of material'', including text messages and phone records, which are contained in an affidavit filed with the court.

''It will be clearly shown … that there were in fact clear intentions to harm Mr Slipper and to bring his reputation into disrepute and to assist his political opponents and that was the purpose for the bringing of this claim,'' she said.

Mr Ashby's lawyer, Michael Lee, SC, argued yesterday his client had not launched legal action for any financial or political purpose, but to seek relief from the court following the alleged sexual harassment and to ensure other staff members were not subjected to similar conduct.

Mr Lee said claims that Mr Ashby had ulterior motives would be contested on July 23.

Mr Slipper defected from the Liberal National Party last year to become Speaker and buttress Labor's slender majority in the House of Representatives.


thats just page 1. go to the link for the rest.

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Reply #37 - Jun 16th, 2012 at 7:54am
 
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 16th, 2012 at 6:25am:
http://www.waginargus.com.au/news/national/national/general/slipper-labor-hits-b...

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THE federal government has accused former aides of Peter Slipper, a News Ltd journalist, the former Howard government minister Mal Brough and other senior Queensland Coalition identities of formulating a sexual harassment claim with the aim of destroying the Speaker.



thats just page 1. go to the link for the rest.

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Interesting that they used the word "formulating" rather than "fabricating"

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Reply #38 - Jun 16th, 2012 at 8:29am
 
Maqqa wrote on Jun 16th, 2012 at 7:54am:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 16th, 2012 at 6:25am:
http://www.waginargus.com.au/news/national/national/general/slipper-labor-hits-b...

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THE federal government has accused former aides of Peter Slipper, a News Ltd journalist, the former Howard government minister Mal Brough and other senior Queensland Coalition identities of formulating a sexual harassment claim with the aim of destroying the Speaker.



thats just page 1. go to the link for the rest.

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Interesting that they used the word "formulating" rather than "fabricating"




Heh yeah what do you expect from the media?

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Reply #39 - Jun 16th, 2012 at 8:49am
 
So, where's the proof of the conspiracy? I've seen (disgusting) proof on the other side. "If you want we could be closer", "Have you ever cummed in a guy's arse?"
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Reply #40 - Jun 16th, 2012 at 9:33am
 
funny how all the liberal monkeys try to justify it ..... the libs tried to set up Pauline Hanson with bull shite and sent an innocent woman to jail, they made up the whole Gretch thing, and now they are trying to set up Slipper .... I wouldn't be surprised if in another 12 months the truth will come out that they set up Thompson as well .... they don't deserve government .. they call everyone else liars but they are more deceitful than all the inmates at long bay jail combined .....
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Reply #41 - Jun 16th, 2012 at 9:35am
 
John Smith wrote on Jun 16th, 2012 at 9:33am:
funny how all the liberal monkeys try to justify it ..... the libs tried to set up Pauline Hanson with bull shite and sent an innocent woman to jail, they made up the whole Gretch thing, and now they are trying to set up Slipper .... I wouldn't be surprised if in another 12 months the truth will come out that they set up Thompson as well .... they don't deserve government .. they call everyone else liars but they are more deceitful than all the inmates at long bay jail combined .....



What is it that the LIBs arre trying to justify?
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Reply #42 - Jun 16th, 2012 at 9:35am
 
John Smith wrote on Jun 16th, 2012 at 9:33am:
funny how all the liberal monkeys try to justify it ..... the libs tried to set up Pauline Hanson with bull shite and sent an innocent woman to jail, they made up the whole Gretch thing, and now they are trying to set up Slipper .... I wouldn't be surprised if in another 12 months the truth will come out that they set up Thompson as well .... they don't deserve government .. they call everyone else liars but they are more deceitful than all the inmates at long bay jail combined .....


Interesting post. I eagerly await your evidence and/or proof.
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Reply #43 - Jun 16th, 2012 at 9:36am
 
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 16th, 2012 at 8:29am:
Maqqa wrote on Jun 16th, 2012 at 7:54am:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 16th, 2012 at 6:25am:
http://www.waginargus.com.au/news/national/national/general/slipper-labor-hits-b...

Quote:
THE federal government has accused former aides of Peter Slipper, a News Ltd journalist, the former Howard government minister Mal Brough and other senior Queensland Coalition identities of formulating a sexual harassment claim with the aim of destroying the Speaker.



thats just page 1. go to the link for the rest.

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Interesting that they used the word "formulating" rather than "fabricating"




Heh yeah what do you expect from the media?

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Sorry it was Nicola who said it:

''A number of other participants other than the applicant [Mr Ashby] were party to formulating this complaint with the clear intent of publicising it before it was filed, with the clear intention of harming Mr Slipper and advantaging his political opponents.'' The Commonwealth will test its abuse-of-process application claim on July 23.
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Reply #44 - Jun 16th, 2012 at 9:39am
 
matty wrote on Jun 16th, 2012 at 9:35am:
John Smith wrote on Jun 16th, 2012 at 9:33am:
funny how all the liberal monkeys try to justify it ..... the libs tried to set up Pauline Hanson with bull shite and sent an innocent woman to jail, they made up the whole Gretch thing, and now they are trying to set up Slipper .... I wouldn't be surprised if in another 12 months the truth will come out that they set up Thompson as well .... they don't deserve government .. they call everyone else liars but they are more deceitful than all the inmates at long bay jail combined .....


Interesting post. I eagerly await your evidence and/or proof.


Since when were you interested in proof? An article in a murdock paper barely rates as information let alone proof ... you're all ready to hang Thompson and Slipper and so far you've seen no proof ... bit of a double standard isn't it?
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