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Pinning Hope On The Greens Dental Care Plan.
Jun 16th, 2012 at 7:03am
 
Davin Michael never imagined putting his name on the state's dental waiting list would mean four years of pain. Three years into his lengthy wait, two of his molars snapped off.    Sad

The 34-year-old spent the next year taking painkillers and lathering teething gel on his throbbing gums. He even resorted to swishing whisky in his mouth — a trick he had seen in old movies. When things got really bad he stopped smiling; embarrassed to show his teeth.

"It was one of those pains where you just don't know when it will go away," the Pakenham father says. "It gets to the point where it's driving you nuts."



When, after four years, he learnt he would have a longer wait for help, Mr Michael contacted the Brotherhood of St Laurence, which booked him into a dental hospital and paid $5000 for 10 fillings and two extractions.

As the federal government and Greens negotiate reforms to the way Australians access dental care, about 400,000 Australians remain on public dental waiting lists, some waiting up to five years to access treatment.   Sad

"We have basically got to a point where we are looking at Third World conditions in a country like Australia," Consumer Health Forum chief executive Carol Bennett says. "We should have never allowed it to get to this point."

The situation is particularly bad in regional areas. The longest average wait in the state is 38 months at Northeast Health Wangaratta, compared to a state average of 17 months.    Sad

Northeast Health Wangaratta chief executive Margaret Bennett says the service's lengthy waiting list reflects the large area it serves. Patients travel from Beechworth, Yarrawonga and Benalla for anything from routine to emergency care.

"We have very dedicated experts working in a very cramped, rented building," she says.

Margaret Bennett hopes a new $900,000 purpose-built dental facility and the May federal budget's $515 million dental package will reduce waiting lists in clinics like hers. But with Australians waiting an average 27months for dental treatment, some advocates are pinning hopes on the Greens' Medicare-style dental care plan.    Wink

"It's not just a health issue. It's an issue of social justice," Greens health spokesman Richard Di Natale says.

The senator is in talks with the government about a replacement for the Medicare Chronic Disease Dental Scheme, which he says will create a platform for a universal dental system.

Senator Di Natale says a universal scheme would be implemented over five years and cost about $5 billion per annum.

Victorian Health Minister David Davis warns the federal government against axing the Chronic Disease Dental Scheme on September 30, which he says is worth $680 million to Victoria over the next four years.

While Mr Davis says he would work with the federal government if a universal dental scheme was implemented, he can't imagine that any time soon.

"Given the challenge to the Commonwealth budget and the challenge to the state budgets, a broad, universal scheme would be a challenge," Mr Davis says.

Australian Dental Association Victorian Branch president Matthew Hopcraft believes in a targeted dental scheme, where funding helps the 30 to 35 per cent of the population who struggle to access dental care.   

In the meantime, vulnerable Victorians continue to call on charity for help. In the past two years the Brotherhood has helped more than 100 Victorians with dental bills. The Brotherhood's dental program manager Mary Pearce says: "You are holding someone up in their life if they can't get treatment."

"One man was trying to get a job and had impacted wisdom teeth. They had been X-rayed and were getting infected every six weeks. The job network provider said, 'how are we going to get him a job when he has to take time off work every six weeks?"

Mr Hopcraft says the private sector has a "very strong role" to play in reducing waiting lists.

"Our members do a lot of pro bono work and work in different capacities. We are continuing to talk to federal and state governments to make sure the private sector is very involved in this."

Unfortunately, he says, by the time some public patients get to see a dentist their mouths are in a very poor state.   Sad

"If people are on a waiting list for two years before they are seen then that small problem becomes a big problem. We know public dental patients are more likely to have extractions than people who aren't on waiting lists."

This certainly holds true for Sandy Jensen, whose teeth had started to fall out and crumble by the time she got to see a dentist.

Unable to afford all the dental work she needed and unaware that she was eligible for public dental assistance, the mother-of-two says she had no choice but to let her teeth rot.    Sad

"I couldn't eat food properly. I was always in a lot of pain and I was always on antibiotics," she says.

For eight years her diet consisted of soup, custard and pureed meals and she says her two boys were embarassed to walk down the street with her.

An employment agency told Ms Jensen that finding work would be difficult because "the public don't want to be served by someone who doesn't have teeth."

She was eventually referred to the Brotherhood, who helped her with the $500 co-payment for dentures.

Ms Jensen says her life is now back on track — she works part-time as a cleaner and has applied to retrain in animal studies.

"My son was so excited when I was finally getting my teeth," she says. "He threw a little party. We had party pies, something I could eat for a change."    Smiley

Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/dental-care-leaves-a-bad-taste-in-many-mouths-20120615-20f6k.html#ixzz1xthrMV2Z
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Re: Pinning Hope On The Greens Dental Care Plan.
Reply #1 - Jun 16th, 2012 at 7:14am
 
There's no bounce in their step when their teeth are hanging by a thread. Who said we were a third world country?

Hopefully the Greens can save the day. The Greens care about people, unlike the right and far right parties.
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Reply #2 - Jun 16th, 2012 at 7:45am
 
A few years ago I was living in a small town in QLD and there was only 1 dentist in the area. It was not a free dentist - it was a very rich charging dentist. The waiting list was 3 months.

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Reply #3 - Jun 16th, 2012 at 8:27am
 
I should assume that the Greens will pay for other people's dental care. I mean, certainly they wouldn't expect hard-working tax-payers to pay the bills of those who don't care/bother to take care of their own teeth?!
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Reply #4 - Jun 16th, 2012 at 8:30am
 
"It's not just a health issue. It's an issue of social justice," Greens health spokesman Richard Di Natale says.    Wink
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Reply #5 - Jun 16th, 2012 at 9:03am
 
Imcrook - who do you expect should pay for the dental plan?

Tell me, why should taxpayers pay for people who don't pay much tax to have free dental care?

In America I pay for myself mate.
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Reply #6 - Jun 16th, 2012 at 9:08am
 
What about the unemployed, the poor, the sick, the disabled.  The people that cant afford dental care?.  Not everyone can.   Huh  
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Reply #7 - Jun 16th, 2012 at 9:09am
 
Why are there so many on here who support welfare?

I can only imagine the fact is that people on here don't work too much and don't pay much in tax?

Of all my friends and work colleagues in Australia, none believe paying more welfare and offering free dental/health care is a good thing.

Then again, my friends all paid a fair amount of tax and believed the AUS Government was screwing them badly.

I just wonder why the demographic on here is so different to anything I hear from people I know in my time in Melbourne?

Nobody I know is as pro-welfare as some of you.
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Reply #8 - Jun 16th, 2012 at 9:09am
 
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What about the unemployed, the poor, the sick, the disabled.  The people that cant afford dental care?.  Not everyone can.   Huh  



So, I'll ask you again.
Why should those of us who pay our own way pay for them as well?

Why do they do for me?
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Reply #9 - Jun 16th, 2012 at 9:11am
 
Because we don't want the poor to lose their teeth.   Wink
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Reply #10 - Jun 16th, 2012 at 9:13am
 
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Because we don't want the poor to lose their teeth.   Wink



Sorry but I couldn't care less about the poor if they don't help themselves.
How about they get off their backsides get a job and pay to go see the dentist like I do?

Novel thought isn't it? Working and paying your own way?
Why do that when they can live off the backs of people like me who 70 hours per week?

Last time my healthcare picked up all but $10 of my 30 mins of work at the dentist.
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Reply #11 - Jun 16th, 2012 at 9:14am
 
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Because we don't want the poor to lose their teeth.   Wink



Well give the idiots toothpaste, a toothbrush and teach the d!ckheads how to brush their friggin teeth.


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Reply #12 - Jun 16th, 2012 at 9:17am
 
angeleyes wrote on Jun 16th, 2012 at 9:14am:
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Because we don't want the poor to lose their teeth.   Wink



Well give the idiots toothpaste, a toothbrush and teach the d!ckheads how to brush their friggin teeth.





It's a very good point actually.

I am fed up of the society of people who want something for nothing.

Give me this, give me that....

How much do these pr!cks pay into society in tax to pay for all this?

Most of the losers that Imcrook is always banging on about pay in next to bugger all and still want the same things I have that I pay for???
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Reply #13 - Jun 16th, 2012 at 9:18am
 
Even with regular brushing of the teeth.  People still will need to to see a dentist, on a fairly regular basis.   Wink
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Reply #14 - Jun 16th, 2012 at 9:23am
 
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Even with regular brushing of the teeth.  People still will need to to see a dentist, on a fairly regular basis.   Wink


Then if they can afford it, they should pay for it.

If they can't then they don't.

Stop sticking up for losers mate.
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