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Reply #90 - Jul 5^th, 2012 at 12:05pm

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Soren Gold Member Offline Posts: 25654 Gender:	Re: Is This What We Can Look Forward To? Reply #91 - Jul 5^th, 2012 at 2:36pm NATO is Christian militants? You are completelt riddled with this religious mania.
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Sir Spot of Borg Gold Member Offline WE ARE BORG Posts: 26509 Australia	Re: Is This What We Can Look Forward To? Reply #92 - Jul 5^th, 2012 at 2:41pm Well its akin to calling all muslims terrorists isnt it. SOB
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Soren Gold Member Offline Posts: 25654 Gender:	Re: Is This What We Can Look Forward To? Reply #93 - Jul 5^th, 2012 at 9:36pm Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 5^th, 2012 at 2:41pm: Well its akin to calling all muslims terrorists isnt it. SOB And as stupid. No - even more stupid.
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49071 At my desk.	Re: Is This What We Can Look Forward To? Reply #94 - Jul 5^th, 2012 at 9:39pm The difference being of course that no-one here has actually said that all Muslims are terrorists.
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Adamant Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1892 Brisbane	Re: Is This What We Can Look Forward To? Reply #95 - Jul 5^th, 2012 at 10:43pm Spot said duhhh
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Reply #96 - Jul 5^th, 2012 at 10:57pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 5^th, 2012 at 2:41pm:

Well its akin to calling all muslims terrorists isnt it.

SOB

Or like calling you an idiot - it may very well be a truth universally recognised, but still, it must not be said out loud.

I am talking of a hypothetical analogy, of course, not you, SOB. You are of course not a universally recognised idiot. Or not recognised universally - I forget which you aren't or are. Neither, probably.

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Re: Is This What We Can Look Forward To?
Reply #97 - Jul 5^th, 2012 at 11:06pm

abu_rashid wrote on Jul 5^th, 2012 at 7:38am:

Adamant wrote on Jul 4^th, 2012 at 9:02pm:

"Mohammed is God's apostle. Those who follow him are ruthless to the unbelievers but merciful to one another" Quran 48:29

This translation is false. If you cannot provide a proper translation, then please refrain from quoting the Qur'an. There is no English translation that renders the word as ruthless, since that is not what it means. It means strong.

Adamant wrote on Jul 4^th, 2012 at 9:02pm:

2012.07.03 (Diwaniya, Iraq) - Sunnis set off a powerful bomb near a Shiite mosque, taking down at least forty Religion of Peace rivals.
2012.07.03 (Karbalah, Iraq) - Eight Shiite worshippers are sent straght to Allah by Sunni bombers at a vegetable market.
2012.07.03 (Yala, Thailand) - A 49-year-old Buddhist is dismantled by Muslim bombers while on his way home.
2012.07.02 (Kandahar, Afghanistan) - A Shahid suicide bomber detonates near the entrance of a university, killing seven students and staff.
2012.07.01 (Maiduguri, Nigeria) - Nine Christian construction workers have their throats cut by Islamists in a 'gruesome' killing.
2012.07.01 (Garissa, Kenya) - Muslims throw grenades into two churches and then shoot fleeing Christians. Some eighteen die in the massacre, including three children..

Not tired yet of posting out of context claims about Muslims? If you're going to quote these incidents, please do provide the sources, and please do provide some evidence that they acted on the basis of their religious affiliation, otherwise, please don't post it.

What is this Abu a bit of righteous indignation spilling out?

Are you getting pissed off at what the ummah is capable of?

Is it that the truth hurts?

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abu_rashid Gold Member Offline Aussie Muslim Posts: 8353	Re: Is This What We Can Look Forward To? Reply #98 - Jul 6^th, 2012 at 7:08am Soren wrote on Jul 5^th, 2012 at 2:36pm: NATO is Christian militants? You are completelt riddled with this religious mania. Well if a bomb in a Shi'ite neighbourhood of Baghdad _must_ be Sunni Muslim Insurgents, then sure, NATO = Christian militants.
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Reply #99 - Jul 6^th, 2012 at 7:14am

MOTR wrote on Jul 5^th, 2012 at 7:45am:

Surely "but merciful" means you are not required to be merciful to the other mob?

What does "strong" mean to you?

It means to stand firm against them, not to submit to their aggressions and to ensure one has the upper hand.

Quite obviously, non-Muslims, have, since the day the fledgling Muslim community came into existence been generally hostile towards it. There have been rare cases where this wasn't the case, like the Abyssinians who sheltered them, but generally it's the case, and quite clearly today. And so Islam prepares Muslims for this reality, by instructing them to stand firm against this hostility. Quite sound advice if you ask me.

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MOTR Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6646	Re: Is This What We Can Look Forward To? Reply #100 - Jul 6^th, 2012 at 7:18am Do some Muslims interpret this incorrectly?
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Reply #101 - Jul 6^th, 2012 at 7:19am

Soren wrote on Jul 5^th, 2012 at 11:19am:

There you go, context:

That is not context. By context I meant showing the events that preceded it.

Soren wrote on Jul 5^th, 2012 at 11:19am:

2012.07.03 (Diwaniya, Iraq) - Sunnis set off a powerful bomb near a Shiite mosque, taking down at least forty Religion of Peace rivals.
"Initial investigations show that today's bombs bear the fingerprints of al Qaeda terrorist group," Salim Hussain, governor of Diwaniya, told Iraqiya state television.

Does he literally mean fingerprints? Of every single member of the group? Or does he mean "we want to blame them, so we'll just vaguely claim this looks like their work"?

Soren wrote on Jul 5^th, 2012 at 11:19am:

Iraq's al Qaeda wing has claimed responsibility for some of the recent bombings against Shi'ites.

More of this ambiguous newsspeak. No actual claim or evidence about the specific incident, just references to past events, which themselves are to remain unscrutinised, as they are just as vaguely referenced.

Nice work soren, my mind feels at rest now.

The rest of your "references" are just as "sound" as this one.

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Reply #102 - Jul 6^th, 2012 at 7:22am

MOTR wrote on Jul 6^th, 2012 at 7:18am:

Do some Muslims interpret this incorrectly?

MOTR,

I'm sure some people of all persuasions interpret things incorrectly, and act accordingly. That's certainly not particular to this passage, nor to Islam, nor to religions, that's just a fact of human nature.

But I think most of the people interpreting it incorrectly, are those replacing the word "strong" with "ruthless", and I can assure you, no Muslim makes such an inaccurate replacement.

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Reply #103 - Jul 6^th, 2012 at 7:24am

Soren wrote on Jul 5^th, 2012 at 10:57pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 5^th, 2012 at 2:41pm:

Well its akin to calling all muslims terrorists isnt it.

SOB

Or like calling you an idiot - it may very well be a truth universally recognised, but still, it must not be said out loud.

I am talking of a hypothetical analogy, of course, not you, SOB. You are of course not a universally recognised idiot. Or not recognised universally - I forget which you aren't or are. Neither, probably.

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Obviously you cant form a coherent thought.

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Re: Is This What We Can Look Forward To?
Reply #104 - Jul 6^th, 2012 at 7:34am

abu_rashid wrote on Jul 6^th, 2012 at 7:22am:

MOTR wrote on Jul 6^th, 2012 at 7:18am:

Do some Muslims interpret this incorrectly?

MOTR,

I'm sure some people of all persuasions interpret things incorrectly, and act accordingly. That's certainly not particular to this passage, nor to Islam, nor to religions, that's just a fact of human nature.

But I think most of the people interpreting it incorrectly, are those replacing the word "strong" with "ruthless", and I can assure you, no Muslim makes such an inaccurate replacement.

I'm still struggling with the juxtaposition between unbelievers and followers of Mohammed. What are the preceding lines?

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