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Reply #151 - Jul 16^th, 2012 at 10:03pm

abu_rashid wrote on Jul 16^th, 2012 at 11:21am:

Yadda wrote on Jul 13^th, 2012 at 10:31pm:

Most moslem kids in Australia go to ISLAMIC schools, where they are taught ISLAMIC/KORANIC principles.
e.g. HATRED OF NON-MOSLEMS ['unbelievers'].

What a load of nonsense. There's nowhere near enough Islamic schools in Australia for this to be even remotely factual. You're a delusional twit.

What do you teach your children about Australia's future?

"Respect the democratic process, kiddies. It has given me freedoms and opportunities I could not have under different political and social systems, such as, I dunno, anywhere in the Muslim lands. That's why we are still here and not somewhere Muslimish. Don't forget that, children, even if daddy a;ways does."

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"all this democracy and freedom stuff you hear in school is the work of Shaytan. DO as I say, not as I do - ie staying here and enjoying the benefits of all that democracy and freedom stuff and making sure that you, kiddies, also benefit from it. Be hypochrites like your dad, children, and talk sh!te but make sure you don't actually do what you preach."

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Reply #152 - Jul 16^th, 2012 at 10:50pm

Soren wrote on Jul 16^th, 2012 at 10:03pm:

What do you teach your children about Australia's future?

Asks the tool who admires the Zionist incursion into Palestine, yet lives in constant fear of being "overrun" by Muslims.

I teach my children to be critical thinkers, that will equip them with the ability to see each system for what it is. You on the other hand seem to be the type who'd teach children nothing but hatred and scaremongering, and an ethno-centric view of history of civilisation.

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Reply #153 - Jul 17^th, 2012 at 1:10am

abu_rashid wrote on Jul 16^th, 2012 at 11:21am:

Yadda wrote on Jul 13^th, 2012 at 10:31pm:

Most moslem kids in Australia go to ISLAMIC schools, where they are taught ISLAMIC/KORANIC principles.
e.g. HATRED OF NON-MOSLEMS ['unbelievers'].

What a load of nonsense. There's nowhere near enough Islamic schools in Australia for this to be even remotely factual. You're a delusional twit.

Then clearly, those 'moslem' children who are attending infidel schools are not REAL moslems.

It is haram, for REAL moslems to allow their children to attend infidel schools, and thereby, submit themselves [their children!] to the influence of infidels.

Am i not correct Abu ?

"Let not the believers take for friends or helpers unbelievers rather than believers. If any do that, in nothing will there be help from Allah; except by way of precaution, that ye may guard yourselves from them."
Koran 3.28

" "And believe no one unless he follows your religion." Say: "True guidance is the Guidance of Allah: (Fear ye) Lest a revelation be sent to someone (else) Like unto that which was sent unto you? or that those (Receiving such revelation) should engage you in argument before your Lord?" Say: "All bounties are in the hand of Allah: He granteth them to whom He pleaseth: And Allah careth for all, and He knoweth all things." "
Koran 3.73

"O ye who believe! Take not into your intimacy those outside your ranks: They will not fail to corrupt you. They only desire your ruin: Rank hatred has already appeared from their mouths: What their hearts conceal is far worse....."
Koran 3.118

Hey Abu,

Is Australia full of moslem impersonators too ???

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Reply #154 - Jul 17^th, 2012 at 1:28am

abu_rashid wrote on Jul 16^th, 2012 at 10:50pm:

Soren wrote on Jul 16^th, 2012 at 10:03pm:

What do you teach your children about Australia's future?

Asks the tool who admires the Zionist incursion into Palestine, yet lives in constant fear of being "overrun" by Muslims.

I teach my children to be critical thinkers,

that will equip them with the ability to see each system for what it is. You on the other hand seem to be the type who'd teach children nothing but hatred and scaremongering, and an ethno-centric view of history of civilisation.

I would wish so Abu.

But i cannot believe you.

Abu,

I am sure that you are already aware that the Koran [in fact Allah] commands believers to NOT enquire for themselves, about truth, and about the source of ISLAM's moral authority,
.....because for a moslem, faith is entirely dependent upon, obedience [submission] to Allah, AND, obedience [submission] to the clerics.

"O ye who believe! Ask not questions about things which, if made plain to you, may cause you trouble.....
Some people before you did ask such questions, and on that account lost their faith."
Koran 5.101, 102

AND;

The Koran [in fact Allah] instructs believers to follow the instruction and guidance of their clerics, implicitly,

"We sent not a messenger, but to be obeyed..........they ['believers'] can have no (real) Faith, until they make thee judge in all disputes between them, and find in their souls no resistance against Thy decisions, but accept them with the fullest conviction."
Koran 4.64, 65

And today, obviously, moslem clerics stand in Mohammed's 'place'.

AND;

Moslems are COMMANDED BY ALLAH, NOT TO SEEK, OR TO ACKNOWLEDGE ANY TRUTH, outside of ISLAM....

" "And believe no one unless he follows your religion." Say: "True guidance is the Guidance of Allah:....." "
Koran 3.73

Abu,

As a good, a REAL moslem, you are encouraging your children to embrace critical thinking ?

ROFLOL

Pull the other one Abu, it plays "Jihad Bells."

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
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Reply #155 - Jul 17^th, 2012 at 3:53am

freediver wrote on Jul 14^th, 2012 at 10:44am:

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Family first wanted to burn lesbians too but they cant because they will go to jail if they do.

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Prolly - i couldn't be bothered figgering it out. I didnt mention war in that quote.

You did mention violence. Are you suggesting there are no muggings or extremist Muslims in Muslim countries that have a decent education?

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Malaysia

Indonesia is improving with better education too.

Can you explain how these countries "don't seem to have violence"? Does Bali count as violence? Or is it more a matter of you pretending the problem disappears, hence your claim that they merely "seem" to have less violence.

As you know full well i was talking about religious violence.

Now you answer some questions for a change. What do you think? Tell me your opnion.

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Reply #156 - Jul 17^th, 2012 at 3:56am

Yadda wrote on Jul 16^th, 2012 at 12:08am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 14^th, 2012 at 9:49am:

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Name one moslem majority country that has,
1/ 'decent education',

Malaysia

Indonesia is improving with better education too.

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2/ doesn't have incidents of ISLAMIC violence [directed towards minorities].

Everywhere has occasional violence towards minorities.

SOB

Hey spot,

AGAIN.....

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As per usual you are talking unsubstantiated shite.

What a lot of absolute untruth and lies you always speak......

Unsubstantiated twaddle.[/size]

"...quack, quack!"

Malaysia eh ?

Spot,

Why do you keep spouting YOUR falsehoods and untruths, in your posts ?

Google;
malaysia, muslim authority, persecution of minorities

Google;
malaysia, muslim authority, persecution of hindus

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Spot,

How can your arguments 'impress', if they are always based upon falsehoods and lies ???

Hey Spot,

Your moslem nature [of lying, falsehood] is breaking through your façade.

Everyone can see, 'where' you are coming from.

"...quack, quack!"

What falsehood did i speak yadda?

Malaysia may have persecution of minorities but so does every country. I have never been persecuted in malaysia but i have here in australia. Go figger. Thats a global thing. you just dont like the fact that muslims are not ALL terrorists as you claim. You need them to focus your hate on.

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Reply #157 - Jul 17^th, 2012 at 8:25am

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As you know full well i was talking about religious violence.

Spot why do you keep assuming people know what you are talking about, even if you say something different?

Does Bali count as religious violence?

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Now you answer some questions for a change. What do you think? Tell me your opnion.

Lesbians are cool. You shouldn't burn them.

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you just dont like the fact that muslims are not ALL terrorists as you claim.

Abu and Falah are not terrorists either, apparently. But they still want to destroy freedom and democracy and stone people to death, even fellow Muslims.

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Reply #158 - Jul 17^th, 2012 at 2:01pm

abu_rashid wrote on Jul 16^th, 2012 at 10:50pm:

Soren wrote on Jul 16^th, 2012 at 10:03pm:

What do you teach your children about Australia's future?

Asks the tool who admires the Zionist incursion into Palestine, yet lives in constant fear of being "overrun" by Muslims.

I teach my children to be critical thinkers

But not as regards Islam. There you teach them to be completely uncritical.

But where the you draw the line? Uncritical of Koran only? But they are not scholars, so that would be dangerous.
Uncritical of scholars only? But which scholars? All scholars? Including Shia and Sufi scholars? Dangerous.
Only Sunni scholars? All sunni scholars? How do they deal with conflicting scholarship?
Take your guidance? Can they be critical about your guidance? On what grounds?

Critical thinking and Islam are incompatible. You are ridiculous.

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Reply #159 - Jul 17^th, 2012 at 2:03pm

Yadda wrote on Jul 17^th, 2012 at 1:10am:

"Let not the believers take for friends or helpers unbelievers rather than believers. If any do that, in nothing will there be help from Allah; except by way of precaution, that ye may guard yourselves from them."
Koran 3.28

So I take it you don't believe in this passage of the Bible either then Yadda?

"Don't team up with those who are unbelievers. How can righteousness be a partner with wickedness? How can light live with darkness?" (2 Corinthians 6:14)

Or do you only espouse this crap when it's someone else's beliefs you're misinterpreting?

In fact if I had posted that same passage but put a Qur'anic reference on it, I'm sure you wouldn't even have known the difference would you? Since you have no idea what either of our religions believe, as your religion is nothing but the doctrine of hatred and bigotry.

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Soren Gold Member Offline Posts: 25654 Gender:	Re: Is This What We Can Look Forward To? Reply #160 - Jul 17^th, 2012 at 2:21pm Yadda wrote on Jul 17^th, 2012 at 1:28am: Abu, As a good, a REAL moslem, you are encouraging your children to embrace critical thinking ? ROFLOL Pull the other one Abu, it plays "Jihad Bells." That is SOOOOO culturally insensitive. It is actually multiculturally hurtful.
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Reply #161 - Jul 17^th, 2012 at 5:11pm

abu_rashid wrote on Jul 17^th, 2012 at 2:03pm:

Yadda wrote on Jul 17^th, 2012 at 1:10am:

"Let not the believers take for friends or helpers unbelievers rather than believers. If any do that, in nothing will there be help from Allah; except by way of precaution, that ye may guard yourselves from them."
Koran 3.28

So I take it you don't believe in this passage of the Bible either then Yadda?

"Don't team up with those who are unbelievers. How can righteousness be a partner with wickedness? How can light live with darkness?" (2 Corinthians 6:14)

Or do you only espouse this crap when it's someone else's beliefs you're misinterpreting?

In fact if I had posted that same passage but put a Qur'anic reference on it, I'm sure you wouldn't even have known the difference would you? Since you have no idea what either of our religions believe, as your religion is nothing but the doctrine of hatred and bigotry.

Be careful, Abu. You'll get a dictionary quote for that one.

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Reply #162 - Jul 17^th, 2012 at 6:12pm

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In fact if I had posted that same passage but put a Qur'anic reference on it, I'm sure you wouldn't even have known the difference would you? Since you have no idea what either of our religions believe, as your religion is nothing but the doctrine of hatred and bigotry.

Abu are you saying that yours is too?

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brumbie Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 994 Gender:	Re: Is This What We Can Look Forward To? Reply #163 - Jul 17^th, 2012 at 8:54pm "as your religion is nothing but the doctrine of hatred and bigotry." oh dear...now theres a thing abu
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brumbie Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 994 Gender:	Re: Is This What We Can Look Forward To? Reply #164 - Jul 17^th, 2012 at 9:06pm you see,to throw rocks is fine,but to put a name on the rock is.......well you know...a bit
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