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Re: China launches rocket to dock with space station
Reply #45 - Jun 18^th, 2012 at 1:23pm

Bobby. wrote on Jun 18^th, 2012 at 1:06pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 18^th, 2012 at 11:56am:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 18^th, 2012 at 11:54am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 18^th, 2012 at 11:46am:

The United States is, and remains, the shining light of prosperity and freedom for the world to aspire.

I will be honest and say that my current standard of living is infinitely higher in the United States than it was in Australia and at 60% of the cost.

My taxes don't need to pay for others to have healthcare at my expense - instead that is channelled to providing my own healthcare.

I also buy cars, clothes, flights, electrical goods, entertainment systems at a cost of around half what you do in Australia.

I earn about the same or slightly more in the USA than the same role in Australia but I pay about $10,000 less in tax per year as a result of the system.

Petrol?
You fill up for $1.30 per liter. I fill up at 89c.

My friends, I would take the USA any day of the week.

And people live under bridges & suffer constant pain from medical
conditions including rotting teeth.

Not me mate.
I have access through my healthcare plan to the best doctors and surgeons in the world.

Your medical insurance is $5,000 per annum
where as mine is only 1/5th of that.

If you have a job medical insurance is usually paid by your employer in the USA.

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Re: China launches rocket to dock with space station
Reply #46 - Jun 18^th, 2012 at 1:26pm

Bobby. wrote on Jun 18^th, 2012 at 1:06pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 18^th, 2012 at 11:56am:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 18^th, 2012 at 11:54am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 18^th, 2012 at 11:46am:

The United States is, and remains, the shining light of prosperity and freedom for the world to aspire.

I will be honest and say that my current standard of living is infinitely higher in the United States than it was in Australia and at 60% of the cost.

My taxes don't need to pay for others to have healthcare at my expense - instead that is channelled to providing my own healthcare.

I also buy cars, clothes, flights, electrical goods, entertainment systems at a cost of around half what you do in Australia.

I earn about the same or slightly more in the USA than the same role in Australia but I pay about $10,000 less in tax per year as a result of the system.

Petrol?
You fill up for $1.30 per liter. I fill up at 89c.

My friends, I would take the USA any day of the week.

And people live under bridges & suffer constant pain from medical
conditions including rotting teeth.

Not me mate.
I have access through my healthcare plan to the best doctors and surgeons in the world.

Your medical insurance is $5,000 per annum
where as mine is only 1/5th of that.

My employer covers 90% of all my coverage.
I also pay $10,000 less in tax than an Aussie person on the same wage does.

That's money in my back pocket to spend how I like.

Where would I rather it went?
To the Government or to me? Wink

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Re: China launches rocket to dock with space station
Reply #47 - Jun 18^th, 2012 at 1:36pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Jun 18^th, 2012 at 1:09pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jun 18^th, 2012 at 12:35pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Jun 18^th, 2012 at 12:28pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jun 18^th, 2012 at 12:26pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Jun 18^th, 2012 at 12:19pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jun 18^th, 2012 at 12:12pm:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jun 18^th, 2012 at 12:09pm:

Andrei has to say all that bullsh1te, he's living in America, if he says anything UN-American he can be locked up indefinitely without charge.

They've got you stitched up old boy, you sucker.

The freedom!

Come on now, surely you're not that stupid. America is a liberal democracy.
What about China? I hear they love dissenters over there!

You can call the method something else but the product is much the same.

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China is an obvious dictatorship, it uses direct methods such as violence.
The west is a subtle dictatorship, it uses indirect methods such as a monetary system.
That's very basic and their are many other methods especially for the west but you get the idea.

The West votes people in. It cannot be a dictatorship.

You vote for a puppet government who is in the back pocket of transnational corporations. Wake up and smell the roses. The chinese government isn't that corrupt yet Wink

The government is still voted in and can be voted out at the next election.
It's not a dictatorship.

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Re: China launches rocket to dock with space station
Reply #48 - Jun 18^th, 2012 at 1:39pm

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jun 18^th, 2012 at 1:36pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Jun 18^th, 2012 at 1:09pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jun 18^th, 2012 at 12:35pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Jun 18^th, 2012 at 12:28pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jun 18^th, 2012 at 12:26pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Jun 18^th, 2012 at 12:19pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jun 18^th, 2012 at 12:12pm:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jun 18^th, 2012 at 12:09pm:

Andrei has to say all that bullsh1te, he's living in America, if he says anything UN-American he can be locked up indefinitely without charge.

They've got you stitched up old boy, you sucker.

The freedom!

Come on now, surely you're not that stupid. America is a liberal democracy.
What about China? I hear they love dissenters over there!

You can call the method something else but the product is much the same.

Expand.

China is an obvious dictatorship, it uses direct methods such as violence.
The west is a subtle dictatorship, it uses indirect methods such as a monetary system.
That's very basic and their are many other methods especially for the west but you get the idea.

The West votes people in. It cannot be a dictatorship.

You vote for a puppet government who is in the back pocket of transnational corporations. Wake up and smell the roses. The chinese government isn't that corrupt yet Wink

The government is still voted in and can be voted out at the next election.
It's not a dictatorship.

So simple minded but yet so obedient.

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Re: China launches rocket to dock with space station
Reply #49 - Jun 18^th, 2012 at 1:42pm

Andrei,
Quote:

My employer covers 90% of all my coverage.
I also pay $10,000 less in tax than an Aussie person on the same wage does.

That's money in my back pocket to spend how I like.

Where would I rather it went?
To the Government or to me?

The money they use to pay your medical insurance can't be paid directly to you.

For an accountant who can't see that slight of hand -
you're pretty dumb.

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Re: China launches rocket to dock with space station
Reply #50 - Jun 18^th, 2012 at 1:42pm

bobbythefap1 wrote on Jun 18^th, 2012 at 1:39pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jun 18^th, 2012 at 1:36pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Jun 18^th, 2012 at 1:09pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jun 18^th, 2012 at 12:35pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Jun 18^th, 2012 at 12:28pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jun 18^th, 2012 at 12:26pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Jun 18^th, 2012 at 12:19pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jun 18^th, 2012 at 12:12pm:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jun 18^th, 2012 at 12:09pm:

Andrei has to say all that bullsh1te, he's living in America, if he says anything UN-American he can be locked up indefinitely without charge.

They've got you stitched up old boy, you sucker.

The freedom!

Come on now, surely you're not that stupid. America is a liberal democracy.
What about China? I hear they love dissenters over there!

You can call the method something else but the product is much the same.

Expand.

China is an obvious dictatorship, it uses direct methods such as violence.
The west is a subtle dictatorship, it uses indirect methods such as a monetary system.
That's very basic and their are many other methods especially for the west but you get the idea.

The West votes people in. It cannot be a dictatorship.

You vote for a puppet government who is in the back pocket of transnational corporations. Wake up and smell the roses. The chinese government isn't that corrupt yet Wink

The government is still voted in and can be voted out at the next election.
It's not a dictatorship.

So simple minded but yet so obedient.

People choose to vote and choose to vote between several candidates. There's no obedience about it.

Why don't you just come out with it, how are we to think and vote?

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Re: China launches rocket to dock with space station
Reply #51 - Jun 18^th, 2012 at 1:43pm

Bobby. wrote on Jun 18^th, 2012 at 1:42pm:

Andrei,
Quote:

My employer covers 90% of all my coverage.
I also pay $10,000 less in tax than an Aussie person on the same wage does.

That's money in my back pocket to spend how I like.

Where would I rather it went?
To the Government or to me?

The money they use to pay your medical insurance can't be paid directly to you.

For an accountant who can't see that slight of hand -
you're pretty dumb.

This from a guy who refused to believe a multi-national company has more than 1 VP?!

Anyway Bobby - it's called health insurance allowance and is in my package (like a lot of people in the USA).

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Re: China launches rocket to dock with space station
Reply #52 - Jun 18^th, 2012 at 2:16pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 18^th, 2012 at 1:43pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 18^th, 2012 at 1:42pm:

Andrei,
Quote:

My employer covers 90% of all my coverage.
I also pay $10,000 less in tax than an Aussie person on the same wage does.

That's money in my back pocket to spend how I like.

Where would I rather it went?
To the Government or to me?

The money they use to pay your medical insurance can't be paid directly to you.

For an accountant who can't see that slight of hand -
you're pretty dumb.

This from a guy who refused to believe a multi-national company has more than 1 VP?!

Anyway Bobby - it's called health insurance allowance and is in my package (like a lot of people in the USA).

Andrei,
Don't you have any compassion for all the people
dying from medical problems who live under bridges?
(because they have no money for medical treatment)

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Re: China launches rocket to dock with space station
Reply #53 - Jun 18^th, 2012 at 2:17pm

Bobby. wrote on Jun 18^th, 2012 at 2:16pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 18^th, 2012 at 1:43pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 18^th, 2012 at 1:42pm:

Andrei,
Quote:

My employer covers 90% of all my coverage.
I also pay $10,000 less in tax than an Aussie person on the same wage does.

That's money in my back pocket to spend how I like.

Where would I rather it went?
To the Government or to me?

The money they use to pay your medical insurance can't be paid directly to you.

For an accountant who can't see that slight of hand -
you're pretty dumb.

This from a guy who refused to believe a multi-national company has more than 1 VP?!

Anyway Bobby - it's called health insurance allowance and is in my package (like a lot of people in the USA).

Andrei,
Don't you have any compassion for all the people
dying from medical problems who live under bridges?
(because they have no money for medical treatment)

I think he has made it fairly clear that he does not.

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Re: China launches rocket to dock with space station
Reply #54 - Jun 18^th, 2012 at 3:15pm

bobbythefap1 wrote on Jun 18^th, 2012 at 2:17pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 18^th, 2012 at 2:16pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 18^th, 2012 at 1:43pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 18^th, 2012 at 1:42pm:

Andrei,
Quote:

My employer covers 90% of all my coverage.
I also pay $10,000 less in tax than an Aussie person on the same wage does.

That's money in my back pocket to spend how I like.

Where would I rather it went?
To the Government or to me?

The money they use to pay your medical insurance can't be paid directly to you.

For an accountant who can't see that slight of hand -
you're pretty dumb.

This from a guy who refused to believe a multi-national company has more than 1 VP?!

Anyway Bobby - it's called health insurance allowance and is in my package (like a lot of people in the USA).

Andrei,
Don't you have any compassion for all the people
dying from medical problems who live under bridges?
(because they have no money for medical treatment)

I think he has made it fairly clear that he does not.

Andrei has extreme right wing attitudes.
It's not until he can't work for whatever reason that he'll see the
true side of American society.
Yankyland is a tough place when you're without work.

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Re: China launches rocket to dock with space station
Reply #55 - Jun 18^th, 2012 at 3:19pm

Bobby. wrote on Jun 18^th, 2012 at 3:15pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Jun 18^th, 2012 at 2:17pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 18^th, 2012 at 2:16pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 18^th, 2012 at 1:43pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 18^th, 2012 at 1:42pm:

Andrei,
Quote:

My employer covers 90% of all my coverage.
I also pay $10,000 less in tax than an Aussie person on the same wage does.

That's money in my back pocket to spend how I like.

Where would I rather it went?
To the Government or to me?

The money they use to pay your medical insurance can't be paid directly to you.

For an accountant who can't see that slight of hand -
you're pretty dumb.

This from a guy who refused to believe a multi-national company has more than 1 VP?!

Anyway Bobby - it's called health insurance allowance and is in my package (like a lot of people in the USA).

Andrei,
Don't you have any compassion for all the people
dying from medical problems who live under bridges?
(because they have no money for medical treatment)

I think he has made it fairly clear that he does not.

Andrei has extreme right wing attitudes.
It's not until he can't work for whatever reason that he'll see the
true side of American society.
Yankyland is a tough place when you're without work.

He is just ignorant, its not his fault I suppose.
Even without work they do have it a lot better then most places, which once again is only possible because billions of people are economic slaves in 3rd world nations.

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Re: China launches rocket to dock with space station
Reply #56 - Jun 18^th, 2012 at 5:22pm

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jun 18^th, 2012 at 1:36pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Jun 18^th, 2012 at 1:09pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jun 18^th, 2012 at 12:35pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Jun 18^th, 2012 at 12:28pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jun 18^th, 2012 at 12:26pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Jun 18^th, 2012 at 12:19pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jun 18^th, 2012 at 12:12pm:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jun 18^th, 2012 at 12:09pm:

Andrei has to say all that bullsh1te, he's living in America, if he says anything UN-American he can be locked up indefinitely without charge.

They've got you stitched up old boy, you sucker.

The freedom!

Come on now, surely you're not that stupid. America is a liberal democracy.
What about China? I hear they love dissenters over there!

You can call the method something else but the product is much the same.

Expand.

China is an obvious dictatorship, it uses direct methods such as violence.
The west is a subtle dictatorship, it uses indirect methods such as a monetary system.
That's very basic and their are many other methods especially for the west but you get the idea.

The West votes people in. It cannot be a dictatorship.

You vote for a puppet government who is in the back pocket of transnational corporations. Wake up and smell the roses. The chinese government isn't that corrupt yet Wink

The government is still voted in and can be voted out at the next election.
It's not a dictatorship.

yes but it's always a major party that is voted back in by fickle voters and both sides of politics have been corrupted. Democracy is just an illusion Sad

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Re: China launches rocket to dock with space station
Reply #57 - Jun 18^th, 2012 at 5:51pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Jun 18^th, 2012 at 5:22pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jun 18^th, 2012 at 1:36pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Jun 18^th, 2012 at 1:09pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jun 18^th, 2012 at 12:35pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Jun 18^th, 2012 at 12:28pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jun 18^th, 2012 at 12:26pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Jun 18^th, 2012 at 12:19pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jun 18^th, 2012 at 12:12pm:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jun 18^th, 2012 at 12:09pm:

Andrei has to say all that bullsh1te, he's living in America, if he says anything UN-American he can be locked up indefinitely without charge.

They've got you stitched up old boy, you sucker.

The freedom!

Come on now, surely you're not that stupid. America is a liberal democracy.
What about China? I hear they love dissenters over there!

You can call the method something else but the product is much the same.

Expand.

China is an obvious dictatorship, it uses direct methods such as violence.
The west is a subtle dictatorship, it uses indirect methods such as a monetary system.
That's very basic and their are many other methods especially for the west but you get the idea.

The West votes people in. It cannot be a dictatorship.

You vote for a puppet government who is in the back pocket of transnational corporations. Wake up and smell the roses. The chinese government isn't that corrupt yet Wink

The government is still voted in and can be voted out at the next election.
It's not a dictatorship.

yes but it's always a major party that is voted back in by fickle voters and both sides of politics have been corrupted. Democracy is just an illusion Sad

But they're still voted in!

What do you mean by fickle and corrupted?

Are voters meant to think another way, perhaps like you? What is that thinking?

I put this to political puppet because he stated the same thing as you, but he didn't have the intellectual integrity to outline how the voters ought to think.

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Re: China launches rocket to dock with space station
Reply #58 - Jun 18^th, 2012 at 8:19pm

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jun 18^th, 2012 at 5:51pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Jun 18^th, 2012 at 5:22pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jun 18^th, 2012 at 1:36pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Jun 18^th, 2012 at 1:09pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jun 18^th, 2012 at 12:35pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Jun 18^th, 2012 at 12:28pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jun 18^th, 2012 at 12:26pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Jun 18^th, 2012 at 12:19pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jun 18^th, 2012 at 12:12pm:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jun 18^th, 2012 at 12:09pm:

Andrei has to say all that bullsh1te, he's living in America, if he says anything UN-American he can be locked up indefinitely without charge.

They've got you stitched up old boy, you sucker.

The freedom!

Come on now, surely you're not that stupid. America is a liberal democracy.
What about China? I hear they love dissenters over there!

You can call the method something else but the product is much the same.

Expand.

China is an obvious dictatorship, it uses direct methods such as violence.
The west is a subtle dictatorship, it uses indirect methods such as a monetary system.
That's very basic and their are many other methods especially for the west but you get the idea.

The West votes people in. It cannot be a dictatorship.

You vote for a puppet government who is in the back pocket of transnational corporations. Wake up and smell the roses. The chinese government isn't that corrupt yet Wink

The government is still voted in and can be voted out at the next election.
It's not a dictatorship.

yes but it's always a major party that is voted back in by fickle voters and both sides of politics have been corrupted. Democracy is just an illusion Sad

But they're still voted in!

What do you mean by fickle and corrupted?

Are voters meant to think another way, perhaps like you? What is that thinking?

I put this to political puppet because he stated the same thing as you, but he didn't have the intellectual integrity to outline how the voters ought to think.

It's a no brainer because the preferential voting system here always makes sure a corrupt major party is running the show. Nobody else will ever get a go Sad

And if if it is a demcoracy like you say it is then why do they make voting compulsory ?

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