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Re: "The face of terror...not the true faith of Islam.
Reply #15 - Jun 24th, 2012 at 3:10pm
 

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 24th, 2012 at 2:26pm:
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Because it is clearly demonstratable


A couple of news articles from worntorn countries is not a demonstration of your theory. What about all the peaceful muslims of which there are millions?

When will you answer my question?

Where do the westboro baptists get their extremism from? Hmmm? Are they mainstream xtian?


SOB



westboro, westboro, westboro, westboro, westboro, westboro.

SOB,

How many members does the westboro church have ?

AND, can you tell me; How many people did the members do the westboro church slaughter last week ?????????????????





SOB,

Here is a real challenge for you......

THE RELIGION OF PEACE

http://thereligionofpeace.com/


SOB,

I want you to post the link to a WWW site [like THE RELIGION OF PEACE] which catalogs all of the daily atrocities which Christians are committing every day around the world.


Give us a site which is directly comparable with the 'THE RELIGION OF PEACE' WWW site in its vastness of incidents of atrocities committed by MAINSTREAM moslems [ <--- i.e. moslems following the urgings of their religion].


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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
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Re: "The face of terror...not the true faith of Islam.
Reply #16 - Jun 24th, 2012 at 3:14pm
 
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 24th, 2012 at 2:26pm:
Why do you have to be so rude? What xtian neighbourly love you are demonstrating. Makes me want to join mainstream xtianity so i can be as hateful as you.



SOB,

Huhhh ????

Why would you want to be like me ???

No.

You, SOB, have clearly demonstrated that YOU, would much rather stand beside those who belong to a philosophy [ISLAM] which promotes
'lawful' political supremacism [i.e. intolerance of 'others' not like themselves],
'lawful' murder,
'lawful' pillage and rape,
'lawful' stealing of property of others.

SOB, THAT, is who you would rather stand with.



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"Allah Akbar!! We moslems are holy people when we murder you, because you reject ISLAM."
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"Allah Akbar!! We moslems are holy people when we steal your wives, and your daughters, and rape them.   Allah Akbar!!"
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"Allah Akbar!! We moslems are holy people when we steal your property. Because in any case, your property lawfully belongs to we moslems."



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"Allah Akbar!! We moslems are holy people when we murder you, because you reject ISLAM."


FROM ISLAMIC LAW

"Ibn 'Abbas reported that the Prophet said: "The bare essence of Islam and the basics of the religion are three [acts], upon which Islam has been established. Whoever leaves one of them becomes an unbeliever and his blood may legally be spilled. [The acts are:] Testifying that there is no God except Allah, the obligatory prayers, and the fast of Ramadan."...."
fiqhussunnah/#3.110

n.b. "Whoever......becomes an unbeliever.....his blood may legally be spilled."


"...A harbi has no rights, not even the right to live."


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harbi


Who, or what, is a harbi ???


Harbi is an Arabic/ISLAMIC word, it means "one under a declaration of war".



n.b.
"....those who reject Allah have no protector."

Koran 47.008
v. 8-11




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"Allah Akbar!! We moslems are holy people when we steal your wives, and your daughters, and rape them."


The example of the conduct of Allah's prophet....

Quote:
FROM THE HADITH.....

"We went out with Allah's Messenger"
= = Mohammed was in the company of these men.

"on the expedition to the Bi'l-Mustaliq and took captive some excellent Arab women"
= = describing some form of raiding party, where Mohammed, and his men, 'took captive some excellent Arab women'.

"and we desired them"
= = hmmmm, i wonder what this means?

"for we were suffering from the absence of our wives"
= = ah, in the absence they wives, they desired these women for sex, to satisfy their sexual lust. This sounds like fornication to me. So why weren't Mohammed and his men stoned to death???

"(but at the same time) we also desired ransom for them."
= = in their minds, their moslem captors sought to sexually 'use', and shame, these captive Arab women, and then let their menfolk redeem them. How honourable of these moslem men. /sarc off

"So we decided to have sexual intercourse with them"
= = yep, Allah's finest, sought to sexually 'use' these 'excellent' captive Arab women.

FROM THE HADITH, END.


Rape your 'war booty', its OK, say ISLAMIC texts
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1251760605/0#0

Bikeway rapist gets 25 years in jail
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1251431040/8#8


These Hadith [which are 'sanctified' ISLAMIC] texts are a witness against Mohammed, [and they prove, by any normal reasoning] that Mohammed was altogether, a rapist, a fornicator, and an adulterer.
n.b.
All of these crimes [of Mohammed,] are supposedly punishable in ISLAM.
But Mohammed, Allah's prophet, was protected by Allah's law.

Why so ???

Because stealing the property of non-moslems, and the rape of captive non-moslem women is 'sanctified', BY ALLAH HIMSELF...

"..Also (prohibited are) women already married, except those whom your right hands possess:..."
Koran 4.22-24

"O Prophet! We have made lawful to thee thy wives to whom thou hast paid their dowers; and those whom thy right hand possesses out of the prisoners of war whom Allah has assigned to thee;..."
Koran 33.50

"those whom your right hands possess" = = female captives, of war.



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"Allah Akbar!! We moslems are holy people when we steal your property. Because in any case, your property lawfully belongs to we moslems."


FROM THE KORAN

The right to take [i.e. steal] the property, of Allah's enemies is 'sanctified', BY ALLAH HIMSELF...

The sanction from Allah, is; "Take EVERYTHING which those 'unbelievers' have, because it belongs to you moslems."...

"Or have they gods that can guard them from Us? They have no power to aid themselves, nor can they be defended from Us.
...See they not that We gradually reduce the land (in their control) from its outlying borders? Is it then they who will win?"
Koran 21:43-44


"And He made you [moslems] heirs to their [non-moslem] land and their dwellings and their property, and (to) a land which you have not yet trodden, and Allah has power over all things."
Koran 33:27



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"So you perverted transgressors [who reject ISLAM] can see, that we moslems are Allah's holy people."

"We moslems are murderers, we moslems are rapists, we moslems are theives,       ....and we moslems, are a holy people."

"Don't you perverted transgressors wish that you were as good and as righteous, as we moslems ?"

/sarc off



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HOW DOES MAINSTREAM ISLAM, AND HOW DO MAINSTREAM MOSLEMS, 'CHARACTERISE' THE 'STATUS' OF NON-MOSLEMS ?
E.G. PEOPLE LIKE MAINSTREAM AUSTRALIANS ?


EXAMPLE #1,
Anjem Choudary is a moslem community leader in the UK....

KILLING OF NON-MUSLIMS IS LEGITIMATE
"...when we say innocent people, we mean moslems."
"....[not accepting ISLAM] is a crime against God."
"...If you are a non-moslem, then you are guilty of not believing in God."
"...as a moslem....i must have hatred towards everything which is non-ISLAM."
"...[moslems] allegiance is always with the moslems, so i will never condemn a moslem for what he does."
"...Britain has always been Dar al Harb [the Land of War]"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maHSOB2RFm4





EXAMPLE #2,
Another UK moslem community leader speaking >> BEFORE << the London 7/7 Bus and Subway bombings....

Attack on London 'inevitable'
April 19, 2004
"We don't make a distinction between civilians and non-civilians, innocents and non-innocents. Only between Muslims and unbelievers. And the life of an unbeliever has no value. It has no sanctity."

http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2004/04/19/1082326119414.html?from=storyrhs&on...




EXAMPLE #3,
Quote:
July 9, 2007
Muslims declare sovereignty over U.S., UK
Across town from the site of the recent attempted car-bomb attacks, several thousand Muslims gathered in front of the London Central Mosque to applaud fiery preachers prophesying the overthrow of the British government – a future vision that encompasses an Islamic takeover of the White House and the rule of the Quran over America.
"One day my dear Muslims," shouted Anjem Choudary, "Islam will govern Britain!"
"......Queen Elizabeth, go to hell!"
......angry Muslim leader Abu Saif, who kept his voice at a fever pitch through declarations such as: "Brothers and sisters, make no mistake. Make no mistake.
The British government, the queen, the MPs in this country, they are enemies to you, enemies to Allah and enemies to the Muslims."

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2007/07/muslims-declare-sovereignty-over-us-uk.html

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Re: "The face of terror...not the true faith of Islam.
Reply #17 - Jun 24th, 2012 at 3:40pm
 
Welstboro is extremist. KKK is extremist xtian too. There are plenty of them in the world. My POINT (since i know you missed it) is that they arent mainstream and neither are the muslims you are talking about.

Mainstream would be the majority. The majority of muslims are actually less hateful than xtians. As i have said several times i have lived in muslim countries and had no problems. The majority of muslims live peaceful lives and dont bother other ppl - UNLIKE the xtians who bother ppl unprovoked all the friggin time. Accosting you in the streets, trying to get laws passed, coming to your door etc.

I am atheist and i dont like EITHER religion. I want you all to go away but you are full of hate so you are one of the extremist bad ones. @ least ppl can live among the muslims without being accosted and hassled about hell etc.

The exception of course is the countries win political turmoil but most of that is caused by westerners not their religion. Look @ the jews in israel breaking another ceasefire. After only 2 days! How full of religious goodness they are.

No i dont want to be like you. I was being sarcastic. I know you always say "/sarc off" but you have no idea what sarcasm means.

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Reply #18 - Jun 24th, 2012 at 3:57pm
 
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 24th, 2012 at 3:40pm:
Mainstream would be the majority. The majority of muslims are actually less hateful than xtians. As i have said several times i have lived in muslim countries and had no problems.

The majority of muslims live peaceful lives and dont bother other ppl - UNLIKE the xtians who bother ppl unprovoked all the friggin time. Accosting you in the streets, trying to get laws passed, coming to your door etc.

SOB



SOB,

In moslems majority nations, moslems have a solution for the problem of those out and out extremist Christians, you know, the ones who openly, and publicly, show that they are Christians.

YES, MOSLEMS PERSECUTE AND MURDER THOSE CHRISTIANS.

That always puts them in their place.
/sarc off

Google;
turkey, christians attacked

Google;
pakistan, christians attacked

Google;
egypt, christians attacked

Google;
tunisia, christians attacked

Google;
morocco, christians attacked





Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 24th, 2012 at 3:40pm:

No i dont want to be like you. I was being sarcastic. I know you always say "/sarc off"

but you have no idea what sarcasm means.


SOB



That is right SOB,

Coz you are so much smarter than me.

That is the reason that i am so dim, its coz you are really, really, smart.

And i am dumb.



Hey SOB,

Can you help me out ???

If i add 2 + 2, what will i get ?

I think that it is 6

Huhhhhhh ?




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Re: "The face of terror...not the true faith of Islam.
Reply #19 - Jun 24th, 2012 at 4:17pm
 
Those are countries with political problems. Besides it serves the extremists right for taking on other extremists dont you think? If they just minded their own business this crap wouldn't happen.

There are plenty of countries that DONT have those problems though. Even in those countries its the extremists that cause the problems though not the mainstream. Look @ america and all the problems they have with the xtians blowing up abortion centres and stuff. Not mainstream.

Guess what! In australia we have all kinds of religions and there isnt all that violence. 27% wasnt it? muslims in oz? No xtian killing? There is the occasional crime perpetrated by a person that is a muslim but same with any other religion. There are criminals of any religion or even lack of a religion.

I have lived in muslim countries. I didnt try to push my views on anyone else. I didnt try to get laws passed to restrict anyone else. I didnt knock on doors trying to convert anyone. Guess what? I never had any problems. The muslims i knew were fine with me being whatever i was - in fact i dont think they ever asked.

Are you capable of seeing what I am saying? I doubt it.

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Re: "The face of terror...not the true faith of Islam.
Reply #20 - Jun 24th, 2012 at 4:21pm
 
If there were no religion you ppl would have to find another excuse for your hatred and violence and war.

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