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Reply #15 - Jul 1st, 2012 at 12:19am
 
muslims can't ever accept western culture. mohammed could have adopted christianity or judaism but went against both. so now we have muslims who are by definition against jews and christians.the hostility will never stop until one side is killed off.
until the muslims are killed off, actually. the christians and the jews are allowing the muslims to live but the muslims will not let live in return. one side will have to be wiped off the map. the muslims want to wipe everyone else off, religiously speaking, so everyone else can either go along with that or unite in the effort to wipe the muslims off the map.


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Reply #16 - Jul 1st, 2012 at 5:55am
 
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA lololololololololololololol

And here i was I thought you had no sense of humour.

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Reply #17 - Jul 1st, 2012 at 10:06am
 
abu_rashid wrote on Jun 27th, 2012 at 8:21pm:
freediver wrote on Jun 27th, 2012 at 12:44pm:
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To me Islam is as Democracy is to you. You believe Democracy must be the foundation of the political system, and that parties which adopt the Democratic ideology can then compete on that platform.


Abu, you take it far further than that by insisting that Islam is democracy and is freedom. I don't try to tell you that our system of government is Shariah law and I consider it blatantly dishonest for you to attempt to argue the corollary.


What nonsense. I would never degrade the good name of Islam by associating it with these disastrous ideals of freedom and democracy.


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Reply #18 - Jul 1st, 2012 at 10:06am
 
freediver wrote on Jul 1st, 2012 at 10:06am:
abu_rashid wrote on Jun 27th, 2012 at 8:21pm:
freediver wrote on Jun 27th, 2012 at 12:44pm:
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To me Islam is as Democracy is to you. You believe Democracy must be the foundation of the political system, and that parties which adopt the Democratic ideology can then compete on that platform.


Abu, you take it far further than that by insisting that Islam is democracy and is freedom. I don't try to tell you that our system of government is Shariah law and I consider it blatantly dishonest for you to attempt to argue the corollary.


What nonsense. I would never degrade the good name of Islam by associating it with these disastrous ideals of freedom and democracy.





You know abu that Islam does not have a good name.

In fact of all the religions it has the worst name of all.
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Reply #19 - Jul 1st, 2012 at 8:24pm
 

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At least 10 people have been killed in attacks on churches in the Kenyan town of Garissa near Somalia, police say.

"So far we have at least 10 killed, and more than 40 wounded," regional deputy police chief Philip Ndolo told Reuters.

He said "goons" dressed in balaclavas lobbed grenades at the town's Catholic church and the African Inland Church (AIC).

Kenya's border region has been tense since it sent troops into Somalia to pursue al-Shabab Islamic militants.

Kenya said the operations, launched last October, were designed to bring an end to kidnappings on Kenyan soil and other violence which it blamed on al-Shabab.

But since then, al-Shabab has claimed responsibility for a string of grenade and bomb blasts across Kenya, many deadly.

Sunday sermons

Sunday's attacks took place during morning sermons at the churches in the garrison town, reports said.

Mr Ndolo said all 10 victims died at the AIC, while three people were injured in the apparently co-ordinated attack at the Catholic church.

He said five AIC attackers used a combination of grenades and gunfire.

"We condemn this act in the strongest terms possible," he said. He said no arrests had been made.

Garissa is the capital of North Eastern province, about 130km (60 miles) from the Somali border.

It is close to the Dadaab refugee camp, where gunmen kidnapped four aid workers and killed a driver on Friday in an attack Mr Ndolo said he suspected al-Shabab sympathisers of carrying out.


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Islamist rebels say they will continue to destroy historic sites in Timbuktu before they implement strict Shariah law, as Mali's government compared the destruction to "war crimes".

Ansar Dine spokesman Sanda Abu Mohamed said that Islamists will continue the destruction they started on Saturday.

"We're going to destroy everything before we apply Shariah in this city," he said.


Resident Moussa Maiga said the Islamists have expressed disapproval of what they think is worship of the tombs of the Muslim saints.

"They say that the population loves the saints like God," he said.

But resident Bouya Ould Sidi Mohamed said the historic city has long had Muslim roots.


"Timbuktu was an Islamic city since the 12th century, and we know what the religion says about the saints' tombs," he said.

"Contrary to what the Islamists or the Wahabis of Ansar Dine say, here in Timbuktu, the people don't love the saints like God, but just seek the saints' blessings because they are our spiritual guides."

Mali's government condemned the destruction, which they say is akin to "war crimes".

"The council of ministers has just approved, in principle, the referral to the International Criminal Court and a working group is working to this end," the government said in a statement.

The UN cultural agency on Saturday called for an immediate halt to the destruction of three sacred Muslim tombs. Irina Bokova, who heads the UN Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organisation, cited in a statement Saturday reports the centuries-old mausoleums of Sidi Mahmoud, Sidi, Moctar and Alpha Moya had been destroyed.

On Thursday, UNESCO's World Heritage Committee, meeting in St Petersburg, Russia, placed the mausoleums of Muslim saints on its list of sites in danger at the request of Mali's government.

Islamist fighters from the Ansar Dine group have declared that they now control the northern half of Mali after driving out an ethnic Tuareg separatist group. The rebel groups took advantage of a power vacuum created by a March coup in the capital to seize ground in the north.

The Islamists' growing reach is more worrying news for the landlocked West African nation.

UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon called the attacks on the mausoleums "totally unjustified" and urged all sides to preserve Mali's cultural heritage, according to a statement.



http://www.smh.com.au/world/were-going-to-destroy-everything-before-we-apply-sha...

muslims, war, islam, shariah, death, destruction.
abus mindset echoes these sentiments.
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Reply #21 - Jul 3rd, 2012 at 1:54pm
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 2nd, 2012 at 3:25pm:
Islamist rebels say they will continue to destroy historic sites in Timbuktu before they implement strict Shariah law, as Mali's government compared the destruction to "war crimes"...

...Resident Moussa Maiga said the Islamists have expressed disapproval of what they think is worship of the tombs of the Muslim saints.

"They say that the population loves the saints like God," he said...





Islam is the only monotheistic religion in the world.



Prophet Abraham destroyed idols in his home town, and was treated like a terrorist, and was forced to flee from his native Iraq.


The rabbis probably would have called Jesus a war criminal or a terrorist too if the term had existed in his time:


Jesus entered the temple area and drove out all who were buying and selling there. He overturned the tables of the money changers and the benches of those selling doves.

"It is written," he said to them, "'My house will be called a house of prayer,' but you are making it a 'den of robbers.'"

Matthew 21:12-3

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Reply #22 - Jul 3rd, 2012 at 2:33pm
 
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 1st, 2012 at 5:55am:
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muslims can't ever accept western culture


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA lololololololololololololol

And here i was I thought you had no sense of humour.

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Here it is from the camel's mouth, mother.

abu_rashid wrote on Jun 27th, 2012 at 8:21pm:
I would never degrade the good name of Islam by associating it with these disastrous ideals of freedom and democracy.

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Reply #23 - Jul 16th, 2012 at 9:43pm
 
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Reply #24 - Jul 17th, 2012 at 4:26am
 
Soren wrote on Jul 3rd, 2012 at 2:33pm:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 1st, 2012 at 5:55am:
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muslims can't ever accept western culture


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA lololololololololololololol

And here i was I thought you had no sense of humour.

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Here it is from the camel's mouth, mother.

abu_rashid wrote on Jun 27th, 2012 at 8:21pm:
I would never degrade the good name of Islam by associating it with these disastrous ideals of freedom and democracy.



And of course he speaks for ALL muslims right? silly woman. Dont you have some cooking or ironing to do?

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Reply #25 - Jul 17th, 2012 at 8:12am
 
There are enough Muslims out there who oppose freedom and democracy to keep two wars going for a decade. There are enough of them to keep a big chunk of the world's population living in oppression. That is real oppression, not the 'oppression' you feel because everyone disagrees with you and you don't get your own way.

For someone who claims to oppose all religion, you make an awful lot of excuses for Muslims.
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Reply #26 - Jul 17th, 2012 at 8:25am
 
freediver wrote on Jul 17th, 2012 at 8:12am:
There are enough Muslims out there who oppose freedom and democracy to keep two wars going for a decade. There are enough of them to keep a big chunk of the world's population living in oppression. That is real oppression, not the 'oppression' you feel because everyone disagrees with you and you don't get your own way.

For someone who claims to oppose all religion, you make an awful lot of excuses for Muslims.


Oh you poor guy. you cant comprehend anything can you. Is it early onset dementia? Knock on the head? No education? What?

I would prolly say the same thing if you were picking on jews or xtians. they arent ALL like that. We have to live with them. If we poke them with a stick they are going to get riled (any religion) so perhaps the media and governments (and militaries) should stop poking them.

You still havent explained to me what you mean by "freedom and democracy" either - yank term anyway. You mean guns are good?

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Reply #27 - Jul 17th, 2012 at 8:31am
 
Do you think the Americans invented freedom and democracy?

Do you think we should ignore it when people actively campaign for the dismantling of freedom and democracy, in case we make them angry?

Would you defend Nazism as automatically as you defend Islam?

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I would prolly say the same thing if you were picking on jews or xtians.


I haven't seen you defend Avram or sprint yet. I have only ever seen you defend Muslims and attack all other religions, while pretending you are opposed to all religion.
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Reply #28 - Jul 17th, 2012 at 9:50am
 
freediver wrote on Jul 17th, 2012 at 8:31am:
Do you think the Americans invented freedom and democracy?

Do you think we should ignore it when people actively campaign for the dismantling of freedom and democracy, in case we make them angry?

Would you defend Nazism as automatically as you defend Islam?

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I would prolly say the same thing if you were picking on jews or xtians.


I haven't seen you defend Avram or sprint yet. I have only ever seen you defend Muslims and attack all other religions, while pretending you are opposed to all religion.


You havent answered my question.

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Reply #29 - Jul 17th, 2012 at 11:13am
 

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...............If we poke them with a stick they are going to get riled (any religion) so perhaps the media and governments (and militaries) should stop poking them......


no, that ain't true. Christianity gets continually poked with a stick. Probably because the pokers know they won't get beheaded live on the net or assassinated by some extremist.

christians do not impose a political system over anyone.
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