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Re: ALP: no to offshore processing in UNHCR countries!
Reply #60 - Jun 27^th, 2012 at 7:58pm

woof woof wrote on Jun 27^th, 2012 at 7:43pm:

A current assylum seeker in detention is concerned about several family members who may have been on the boat that sunk.

This intrigues me, You'd not think that with the supposed costs of buying your passage on a boat that several members of a family are all making the trek, Must cost them 10s of thousands?

Why is it that their are always cases of family members on different boats??

Now remember thes eppl come from countries where the average wag eis $2USD a day how do they accumulate such a large amount of money??

They are not refugees they are leaving a country that they have probably been apart of a corrupt regime and have a massive stash of cash secreted away.

All of the boat people I have seen are poor and unskilled.
See how they are all young men? Run away and leave behind the women.

I can not believe people here want more to come! Insane people!

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Re: ALP: no to offshore processing in UNHCR countries!
Reply #61 - Jun 27^th, 2012 at 8:00pm

Avram Horowitz wrote on Jun 27^th, 2012 at 7:58pm:

woof woof wrote on Jun 27^th, 2012 at 7:43pm:

A current assylum seeker in detention is concerned about several family members who may have been on the boat that sunk.

This intrigues me, You'd not think that with the supposed costs of buying your passage on a boat that several members of a family are all making the trek, Must cost them 10s of thousands?

Why is it that their are always cases of family members on different boats??

Now remember thes eppl come from countries where the average wag eis $2USD a day how do they accumulate such a large amount of money??

They are not refugees they are leaving a country that they have probably been apart of a corrupt regime and have a massive stash of cash secreted away.

All of the boat people I have seen are poor and unskilled.
See how they are all young men? Run away and leave behind the women.

I can not believe people here want more to come! Insane people!

why are you here? why aren't you defending your women? coward

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I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.

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Avram Horowitz Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3153 Australia Gender:	Re: ALP: no to offshore processing in UNHCR countries! Reply #62 - Jun 27^th, 2012 at 8:01pm Asyl policy should be to make it as difficult as possible to get in. Not make it easier!
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Re: ALP: no to offshore processing in UNHCR countries!
Reply #63 - Jun 27^th, 2012 at 8:01pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 27^th, 2012 at 7:57pm:

Gist wrote on Jun 27^th, 2012 at 6:46pm:

Phallic Baldwin wrote on Jun 27^th, 2012 at 6:36pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 27^th, 2012 at 5:49pm:

Phallic Baldwin wrote on Jun 27^th, 2012 at 5:32pm:

Phallic Baldwin wrote on Jun 27^th, 2012 at 2:47pm:

Question to Labor supporters for my own awareness - is there something that I am missing that would make Malaysia a more viable option despite it not being a signatory?

I'm not trying to start a flame war here - I'm genuinely interested.

whilst they aren't a signatory the government has been able to negotiate certain human rights guarantees as part of the package .... no one will get whipped or whatever other crap the libs are claiming

Thanks for answering. However I have to also ask from your response, how does that make Malaysia a more viable option? It appears to be, at best, no different to what the Libs are proposing?

My understanding is that part of the deal is that once they are processed in Malaysia, they are not guaranteed to be sent to Australia. They could be resettled anywhere. This removes the incentive for the journey to Australia in the first place.

Whereas for Nauru, the majority were resettled in Australia.

Although certainly NZ took some, most of those people ended up here anyway. This is why the bureaucrats in the Dept. Immigration themselves are advising that Nauru is not a deterrent. People smugglers can point to the evidence that anyone sailing to Australia will almost certainly end up in Australia.

Not much of a disincentive, given the fact that once the 800 is reached (which is within a couple of weeks or so at the current rate) we will be right back where we are now. All we will see is people smugglers sending more people on more boats more often to wipe out that 800 quota as fast as possible.

This is just wrong. You've been shown proof of this, Labor has admitted they were wrong when they claimed this. End of story.

where's your proof that they admitted they were wrong?

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Re: ALP: no to offshore processing in UNHCR countries!
Reply #64 - Jun 27^th, 2012 at 8:02pm

John Smith wrote on Jun 27^th, 2012 at 8:00pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Jun 27^th, 2012 at 7:58pm:

woof woof wrote on Jun 27^th, 2012 at 7:43pm:

A current assylum seeker in detention is concerned about several family members who may have been on the boat that sunk.

This intrigues me, You'd not think that with the supposed costs of buying your passage on a boat that several members of a family are all making the trek, Must cost them 10s of thousands?

Why is it that their are always cases of family members on different boats??

Now remember thes eppl come from countries where the average wag eis $2USD a day how do they accumulate such a large amount of money??

They are not refugees they are leaving a country that they have probably been apart of a corrupt regime and have a massive stash of cash secreted away.

All of the boat people I have seen are poor and unskilled.
See how they are all young men? Run away and leave behind the women.

I can not believe people here want more to come! Insane people!

why are you here? why aren't you defending your women? coward

I spent 3years defending our people thank you including a role in Operation Cast Lead in Gaza.

I am a student but I am still open reservist if my county needs.

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Re: ALP: no to offshore processing in UNHCR countries!
Reply #65 - Jun 27^th, 2012 at 8:03pm

We are a BIG COUNTRY.!!

WE have LOTS of room ..... we NEED more population, according to economic growth indicators.

TURN THE BOATS AROUND.!!
PROCESS THEM OFFSHORE. !!

THESE IDEAS are simply grasping at straws. .. trying to preserve Australia for the old folks... that is .. their somewhat benign view of recent Australian history.

THEY CANNOT WORK.
We are just now BEGINNING to see the START of the influx. It really is inevitable, -- and the desperation of the pollies (both sides) is embarrassing to see, BECAUSE they fail to see the truth.
THEY ACTUALLY BELIEVE they can do this crap.
They're wrong.
We need to take RESPONSIBLE action. knowing as we do that people are dying as we dawdle.!

WE MUST allow them onto our mainland, assess them fairly, .. and DEAL with them in an appropriate positive and humane way. IT WOULD BE MUCH MORE COST EFFECTIVE... for those who think money....
That way,, they become Australians, ...with everything to protect, and work for.

Rather than increasing numbers of people incarcerated and learning to hate us. We have no excuse .... but xenophobia.!!

We should be actively intercepting these people, before they depart in a leaky boat. For that we need Indonesia to come on board. NOT MALAYSIA, ?? or NAURU??? ...both of which are illegal under current recent high court Law. And could never be an EFFECTIVE solution.

Forget it... do the right thing.... AND HOPE for the F'N BEST.!!!
We.. cannot stop this mass movement of people, and we become more and more WRONG...
all of the time we try to ignore the inevitable.!!

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Re: ALP: no to offshore processing in UNHCR countries!
Reply #66 - Jun 27^th, 2012 at 8:05pm

Avram Horowitz wrote on Jun 27^th, 2012 at 8:02pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 27^th, 2012 at 8:00pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Jun 27^th, 2012 at 7:58pm:

woof woof wrote on Jun 27^th, 2012 at 7:43pm:

A current assylum seeker in detention is concerned about several family members who may have been on the boat that sunk.

This intrigues me, You'd not think that with the supposed costs of buying your passage on a boat that several members of a family are all making the trek, Must cost them 10s of thousands?

Why is it that their are always cases of family members on different boats??

Now remember thes eppl come from countries where the average wag eis $2USD a day how do they accumulate such a large amount of money??

They are not refugees they are leaving a country that they have probably been apart of a corrupt regime and have a massive stash of cash secreted away.

All of the boat people I have seen are poor and unskilled.
See how they are all young men? Run away and leave behind the women.

I can not believe people here want more to come! Insane people!

why are you here? why aren't you defending your women? coward

I spent 3years defending our people thank you including a role in Operation Cast Lead in Gaza.

I am a student but I am still open reservist if my county needs.

your a reservist who has run to where it's safe ... go home and defend your women you coward ...

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Our esteemed leader:
I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.

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Avram Horowitz Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3153 Australia Gender:	Re: ALP: no to offshore processing in UNHCR countries! Reply #67 - Jun 27^th, 2012 at 8:08pm I study for one year at invitation of exchange between governments. Remember Australia is strong ally of Israel? I defend my people from the scum who attack us yes.
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Re: ALP: no to offshore processing in UNHCR countries!
Reply #68 - Jun 27^th, 2012 at 8:47pm