BlOoDy RiPpEr wrote on Jun 27^th, 2012 at 2:52pm:

Type of evil lying crap that comes out of the putrid abusive minds of the atheist socialist left - and guess what all of their abuse and pontificating is all about making themselves richer...surprise surprise...cut funding to Green projects, the Arts and AIDS research - just get on with it.

Dsmithy70 wrote on Jun 27^th, 2012 at 2:30pm:


Gillard is hellbent on her Malaysia deal. It may (will probably) pass the House of Reps, but it is dead in the Senate where the Coalition will vote against it and so will the Greens due to their opposition to any offshore proecessing. The only solution is to adopt the Coalition's policy on this issue, which is TPV's, offshore processing in UN signatory countries, turning back boats when safe to do so and not giving benefit of the doubt to those who destroy their documents.

Here's the link for you...

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/business/breaking-news/abbott-to-bring-in-bill-...

Kevin Rudd inherited a highly successful policy from his predecessor. It was known as the "Pacific Solution" and, through the utilisation of offshore processing in Nauru, temporary protection visa's and turning back boats when it was safe to do so, we all saw the number of boats decrease to absolutely zero in the policy's first full year in operation. Not one boat, not one death on the ocean between Indonesia and Australia. The business model for people smugglers was smashed, and they knew it. Everyone from Australia to Indonesia to the Middle East and South-East Asia knew that Australia was not a soft touch and this was an effective deterrent.

But now we have a Labor government headed by Kevin Rudd, who thinks he can keep the boats away, albeit with a more "humanitarian" policy. The events that have followed speak for themselves - more than 300 boats have arrived carrying more than 19,000 illegal immigrants. The deterrent that preciously existed is no more. Tragically, since Kevin Rudd scrapped the Pacific Solution, at least 1,000 people have died. Today, we see another example of Labor's failure on this policy (or lack thereof).

All we have seen from Labor on this issue is one screw up after another. As I said, Rudd scrapped the Pacific Solution and Australia was again flooded with boats. Then Gillard became PM and she's been much worse. Gillard has had every position known on this issue - except a return to the policies of the Pacific Solution. She wanted to send these people to East Timor and announced as much without even informing the East Timorese, who subsequently told her to go fly her kite. Then came the Malaysia debacle, which ended in a massive slapdown by the full bench of the High Court. Gillard is determined to implement her supposed solution to this farce by sending 800 of these illegal immigrants to Malaysia in return for them sending us 4,000. This policy is doomed to fail because (a) in a couple of weeks we'd have reached our quota of 800 and then we'd be right back at square one and (b) the policy has been ruled as illegal by the full bench of the High Court.

No, the problem is most certainly NOT the Coalition. That party has consistently advocated the same policy for more than a decade - a policy that has been tested and found to be extremely effective. Even people smugglers interviewed by TV programs have admitted so. The problem is Labor and the Greens. Labor because they wrecked what was a highly successful policy and the Greens supported them. The Greens because they support only onshore processing, which is a recipie for absolute disaster and would make the 1,000-1,500 arrivals per month seem like a trickle.

If the ALP truly want to fix this mess, they need to either (a) talk to Christine Milne to get the Malaysia deal passed because the Coalition will not support it or (b) sit down with the Coalition to work out a policy that works and does not include sending any people to Malaysia, such as the one Tony Abbott just tried to table in parliament a few hours ago but was blocked by Gillard and Co.

I will say again Australia has nO obligation to process anyone at all.

By the way, Julia Gillard has said in the past that she would rule out sending people to countries that are not signatories to the UN convention on refugees. Why the change? Another broken promise? Another lie? Abbott is coming to the government's aid to reinstate offswhore processing by attempting to introduce a bill that would allow offshore processing in countries that are signatories to the UN convention on refugees. Why does Gillard refuse to allow that bill and why does she want to send people to Malaysia, a country that refuses to sign the UN convention on refugees?

Malaysia deal cannot be implemented because it strips away the human rights of people taken from our care to Malaysia and that is one reason why it was ruled illegal by the High Court - because Australia would fail in its duty of care to those people by sending them to a place like Malaysia, which is not a signatory to the UN convention on refugees.