Australian Politics Forum - Right wing refo rubbish

mozzaok Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 6741 Melbourne Gender:	Right wing refo rubbish Jun 28^th, 2012 at 2:47pm Too many threads repeating the same old garbage, so I am putting them here. Check for the left wing version thread, if you want the other end of the idiocy argument.
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Chris Bowen is an idiot
Reply #1 - Jun 28^th, 2012 at 2:29pm

Bowen is currently talking in the House of Representatives saying that because the Coalition wants to send people only to countries that are signatories to the UNHCR, that this and future governments would send people to countries like Somalia, among others, which is a signatory. Does he really, for one second, think that a Coalition government would send a single person to one of those kinds of countries? The idiocy of what he just said is astounding!

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Shane B Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1473 Canberra Gender:	Re: Chris Bowen is an idiot Reply #2 - Jun 28^th, 2012 at 2:36pm Astonishing. There are people in Somalian refugee camps wishing to be relocated to countries like Australia. Unfortunately, they get pushed out of our humanitarian intake by queue jumpers arriving here on rickety boats.
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Re: Chris Bowen is an idiot
Reply #3 - Jun 28^th, 2012 at 2:39pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 28^th, 2012 at 2:29pm:

Bowen is currently talking in the House of Representatives saying that because the Coalition wants to send people only to countries that are signatories to the UNHCR, that this and future governments would send people to countries like Somalia, among others, which is a signatory. Does he really, for one second, think that a Coalition government would send a single person to one of those kinds of countries? The idiocy of what he just said is astounding!

Not that I'm watching or believe they would, it is a nuance thing.
Surely you can see this or are you really that black & white?
Here it is,
The coalition will not support sending refo's to Malaysia DESPITE the swap refo's having Australia & Malaysian guaranteed protection from caning, education for children & decent accommodation(not tents in camps) because they have not signed the UN charter.

Inferring that they are in danger because these countries(Malaysia) have not signed & they will be safe only in countries that have.
Well this is obviously wrong as you yourself have pointed out.

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Re: Chris Bowen is an idiot
Reply #4 - Jun 28^th, 2012 at 2:41pm

Dsmithy70 wrote on Jun 28^th, 2012 at 2:39pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 28^th, 2012 at 2:29pm:

Bowen is currently talking in the House of Representatives saying that because the Coalition wants to send people only to countries that are signatories to the UNHCR, that this and future governments would send people to countries like Somalia, among others, which is a signatory. Does he really, for one second, think that a Coalition government would send a single person to one of those kinds of countries? The idiocy of what he just said is astounding!

Not that I'm watching or believe they would, it is a nuance thing.
Surely you can see this or are you really that black & white?
Here it is,
The coalition will not support sending refo's to Malaysia DESPITE the swap refo's having Australia & Malaysian guaranteed protection from caning, education for children & decent accommodation(not tents in camps) because they have not signed the UN charter.

Inferring that they are in danger because these countries(Malaysia) have not signed & they will be safe only in countries that have.
Well this is obviously wrong as you yourself have pointed out.

No such protection from caning exists. Even the ALP admit that. There is also no education offered in these detention facilities and they are crammed in like sardines.

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progressiveslol Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17029	Re: Right wing refo rubbish Reply #5 - Jun 28^th, 2012 at 2:49pm mozzaok wrote on Jun 28^th, 2012 at 2:47pm: Too many threads repeating the same old garbage, so I am putting them here. Check for the left wing version thread, if you want the other end of the idiocy argument. Do you somehow think we have not got the idiocy from the other side?
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ALP: no to offshore processing in UNHCR countries!
Reply #6 - Jun 27^th, 2012 at 2:12pm

Tony Abbott has today attempted to introduce to Federal parliament a bill that would allow the government to utilise offshore processing (which I thought the ALP was for, not against) in any country which is a signatory to the UN convention on refugees, but would exclude Malaysia as it is not a signatory. The ALP used its numbers to deny Abbott the opportunity to introduce this bill.

Clearly, Julia Gillard has no intention of solving the problem she and Rudd created and she's content to use every death for her own narrow-minded political gain.

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Armchair_Politician Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 25972 Gender:	Re: ALP: no to offshore processing in UNHCR countries! Reply #7 - Jun 27^th, 2012 at 2:23pm I thought that the ALP was for offshore processing. Apparently I was wrong.
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Dsmithy70 Gold Member Offline ire futuis vobismetipsis Posts: 13147 Newy Gender:	Re: ALP: no to offshore processing in UNHCR countries! Reply #8 - Jun 27^th, 2012 at 2:30pm Got a link?? Not that I don't believe you, but I'd feel better knowing where your information comes from.
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Prevailing Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 7169 Stop Men	Re: ALP: no to offshore processing in UNHCR countries! Reply #9 - Jun 27^th, 2012 at 2:33pm Far too much money thrown around to science research projects, AIDS research, Arts and Green Projects....
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Re: ALP: no to offshore processing in UNHCR countries!
Reply #10 - Jun 27^th, 2012 at 2:37pm

Dsmithy70 wrote on Jun 27^th, 2012 at 2:30pm:

Got a link??

Not that I don't believe you, but I'd feel better knowing where your information comes from.

They were all running around like disgraceful morons an hour ago.

Gillard was giving a speech in the house about pushing ahead with Oakshot’s members bill.

Abbott was having a press conference about introducing his own members bill.

Then the children all started yelling at each other.

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Re: ALP: no to offshore processing in UNHCR countries!
Reply #11 - Jun 27^th, 2012 at 2:40pm

Dsmithy70 wrote on Jun 27^th, 2012 at 2:30pm:

Got a link??

Not that I don't believe you, but I'd feel better knowing where your information comes from.

He is talking about parliament its on TV now ABC24 and ABC1 i expect

Its not over yet and he is jumping the gun

mainly the labs are trying to debate the issue and the libs are just trashing the labs as usual,

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progressiveslol Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17029	Re: ALP: no to offshore processing in UNHCR countries! Reply #12 - Jun 27^th, 2012 at 2:41pm lol Gillard the hypocrit and even more so when it comes to a UNHCR country. No, labor want people to be treated like cattle and be branded, wipped in Malaysia.
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Phallic Baldwin Senior Member Offline Phallic Baldwin Posts: 370 Gender:	Re: ALP: no to offshore processing in UNHCR countries! Reply #13 - Jun 27^th, 2012 at 2:47pm Question to Labor supporters for my own awareness - is there something that I am missing that would make Malaysia a more viable option despite it not being a signatory? I'm not trying to start a flame war here - I'm genuinely interested.
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Re: ALP: no to offshore processing in UNHCR countries!
Reply #14 - Jun 27^th, 2012 at 2:48pm

progressiveslol wrote on Jun 27^th, 2012 at 2:41pm:

lol Gillard the hypocrite and even more so when it comes to a UNHCR country.

No, labor want people to be treated like cattle and be branded, whipped in Malaysia.

Always thought Gillard looked to be in to that kinky stuff, explains her big bum, she likey the spanking.

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