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Re: Why the so-called Malaysian Solution will not work
Reply #120 - Jun 28^th, 2012 at 1:09pm

skippy. wrote on Jun 28^th, 2012 at 12:59pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 28^th, 2012 at 12:29pm:

Julia Gillard and Rob Oakeshott's bill is dead in the Senate, that's a given. So, what do you wanna bet that Gillard will single out the Coalition and Tony Abbott for her criticism while completely leaving out any mention of the Greens whatsoever - despite them also voting against this bill?

The Greens have always had onshore processing as their policy, Labor know that, why would Labor expect the GREENS to change their policy when the coalition insist their policy is off shore processing? only a moron would argue that point, I see you living up to your expectations.

Because labor should say they will can the carbon tax that the greens are forcing on us, if the greens do not support the malaysia policy.

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Re: Why the so-called Malaysian Solution will not work
Reply #121 - Jun 28^th, 2012 at 1:10pm

progressiveslol wrote on Jun 28^th, 2012 at 1:09pm:

skippy. wrote on Jun 28^th, 2012 at 12:59pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 28^th, 2012 at 12:29pm:

Julia Gillard and Rob Oakeshott's bill is dead in the Senate, that's a given. So, what do you wanna bet that Gillard will single out the Coalition and Tony Abbott for her criticism while completely leaving out any mention of the Greens whatsoever - despite them also voting against this bill?

The Greens have always had onshore processing as their policy, Labor know that, why would Labor expect the GREENS to change their policy when the coalition insist their policy is off shore processing? only a moron would argue that point, I see you living up to your expectations.

Because labor should say they will can the carbon tax that the greens are forcing on us, if the greens do not support the malaysia policy.

What a retarded comment.

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Re: Why the so-called Malaysian Solution will not work
Reply #122 - Jun 28^th, 2012 at 1:11pm

skippy. wrote on Jun 28^th, 2012 at 1:10pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Jun 28^th, 2012 at 1:09pm:

skippy. wrote on Jun 28^th, 2012 at 12:59pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 28^th, 2012 at 12:29pm:

Julia Gillard and Rob Oakeshott's bill is dead in the Senate, that's a given. So, what do you wanna bet that Gillard will single out the Coalition and Tony Abbott for her criticism while completely leaving out any mention of the Greens whatsoever - despite them also voting against this bill?

The Greens have always had onshore processing as their policy, Labor know that, why would Labor expect the GREENS to change their policy when the coalition insist their policy is off shore processing? only a moron would argue that point, I see you living up to your expectations.

Because labor should say they will can the carbon tax that the greens are forcing on us, if the greens do not support the malaysia policy.

What a retarded comment.

Well you are known for it.

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Re: Why the so-called Malaysian Solution will not work
Reply #123 - Jun 28^th, 2012 at 1:13pm

progressiveslol wrote on Jun 28^th, 2012 at 1:11pm:

skippy. wrote on Jun 28^th, 2012 at 1:10pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Jun 28^th, 2012 at 1:09pm:

skippy. wrote on Jun 28^th, 2012 at 12:59pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 28^th, 2012 at 12:29pm:

Julia Gillard and Rob Oakeshott's bill is dead in the Senate, that's a given. So, what do you wanna bet that Gillard will single out the Coalition and Tony Abbott for her criticism while completely leaving out any mention of the Greens whatsoever - despite them also voting against this bill?

The Greens have always had onshore processing as their policy, Labor know that, why would Labor expect the GREENS to change their policy when the coalition insist their policy is off shore processing? only a moron would argue that point, I see you living up to your expectations.

Because labor should say they will can the carbon tax that the greens are forcing on us, if the greens do not support the malaysia policy.

What a retarded comment.

Well you are known for it.

You wrote it. Only a moron would think blackmail were the answer, you didn't let us down.

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Re: Why the so-called Malaysian Solution will not work
Reply #124 - Jun 28^th, 2012 at 1:14pm

skippy. wrote on Jun 28^th, 2012 at 1:13pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Jun 28^th, 2012 at 1:11pm:

skippy. wrote on Jun 28^th, 2012 at 1:10pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Jun 28^th, 2012 at 1:09pm:

skippy. wrote on Jun 28^th, 2012 at 12:59pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 28^th, 2012 at 12:29pm:

Julia Gillard and Rob Oakeshott's bill is dead in the Senate, that's a given. So, what do you wanna bet that Gillard will single out the Coalition and Tony Abbott for her criticism while completely leaving out any mention of the Greens whatsoever - despite them also voting against this bill?

The Greens have always had onshore processing as their policy, Labor know that, why would Labor expect the GREENS to change their policy when the coalition insist their policy is off shore processing? only a moron would argue that point, I see you living up to your expectations.

Because labor should say they will can the carbon tax that the greens are forcing on us, if the greens do not support the malaysia policy.

What a retarded comment.

Well you are known for it.

You wrote it. Only a moron would think blackmail were the answer, you didn't let us down.

Oh, you mean the blackmailing for labor to gain power and greens offering up that blackmail in the order of the carbon tax?

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Re: Why the so-called Malaysian Solution will not work
Reply #125 - Jun 28^th, 2012 at 1:20pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 28^th, 2012 at 12:54pm:

You think the Malaysia deal will be a deterrent, eh? Okay, lets examine that deal. Each year, in return for Malaysia accepting 800 illegal immigrants from us, we will take from Malaysia 4,000 people.

So, when people smugglers get wind of this deal they will realise that the first 800 people they send a flotilla of boats with people crammed in like sardines. Currently, we get on average around 1,000 people come by boat per month. Under the Malaysia deal, this number is sure to increase - probably double. That would mean we'd reach the 800 quota within weeks.

Then what? After those 800 people have been sent to Malaysia, what then? I guess we'll return to onshore processing of the others who come during the other 11 months of the year.

Malaysia simply won't work and will increase the cost to taxpayers. Currently, the government is spending (wasting) about $1.2bn per year. Wayne Swan has budgeted for a meagre 450 arrivals per month. We see that many people arrive in little more than a week or so.

No, the so-called "Malaysian Solution" is no solution. It is, in fact, an incentive for people smugglers to send more people more quickly on their leaky boats. That Gillard, Swan, Bowen and all the other Leftards in this country cannot comprehend this (yet people smugglers certainly do) just demonstrates how comprehensively brain-dead stupid you lot all are. Unbelievable!

So... 800 people get sent to Malaysia after which they don't know where they will end up. Good chance it won't be Australia because our intake is piss-poor. Great incentive to pay someone to get onto a boat to Australia there? I think not.

Nauru - pretty much everyone gets sent to Australia as happened before. Great incentive to pay someone to get onto a boat to Australia there? I think so.

Oh.. and for the Malaysia solution after the 800 we presumably go to onshore processing and most go to Australia. So no different to Nauru - as long as you're not one of the unlucky 800.

I think you need to revisit your idea of brain dead because there is a high level of deterrence in the Malaysia solution for a while at least. And virtually none ever in your much-loved Nauru solution.

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Re: Why the so-called Malaysian Solution will not work
Reply #126 - Jun 28^th, 2012 at 1:22pm

progressiveslol wrote on Jun 28^th, 2012 at 12:40pm:

Gist wrote on Jun 28^th, 2012 at 12:35pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Jun 28^th, 2012 at 12:26pm:

Gist wrote on Jun 28^th, 2012 at 12:19pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Jun 28^th, 2012 at 12:10pm:

Gist wrote on Jun 28^th, 2012 at 12:06pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Jun 28^th, 2012 at 11:45am:

It was pure partisanship getting rid of the pacific solution by labor in the first place.

It is pure partisanship to not bring back the liberal policy that worked, but instead to bring in a far worse policy when it comes to human rights, in the Malaysia solution.

Labor = partisan
Labor = poor policies

Well there ya go. Perfect example of what I was talking about. You illustrate it nicely - never mind a solution just try to score points.

And then you pretend to care about asylum seekers. Yeah right.

And for what it's worth, scrapping Howard's detestable offshore processing policy was not only the right thing to do, it was the inevitable thing to do. You see, for those of us who can read charts, there was a marked increase in the numbers of boat arrivals in the last years of the Pacific Solution. Your so-called "deterrent" wasn't much of a deterrent any more by then. We can see it. The Immigration Department can see it. But Lieberal cheerleaders are of course another story altogether.

To replace it with the malaysian solution. lol good on ya.

The malaysian solution is stupid and I've never supported it. But at least I can understand the reasoning behind it.

Nauru is beyond stupid. It's a universe of stupid all of its own because there is no logic behind it at all other than Tony The Twat's perception that it'll score him points on the board.

It worked and even when they have gotten the UNHCR signage, it still isnt good enough. You lot are just pure partisan hacks.

Malaysia solution is way more cruel than the previous liberal policy was without the UNHCR signage and now with the signage, malaysia solution is on a different planet.

Like I say, I don't support the Malaysia solution. But YOU guys are the ones who keep talking about deterrence. Malaysia will stand a chance at deterring people from getting on boats. Nauru won't.

So what is it you're after? Your choice:

Deterrence?

Or proper treatment of asylum seekers.

You can only choose one.

All of the above, hence the UNHCR signage

What the matter? Can't count to ONE?

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Re: Why the so-called Malaysian Solution will not work
Reply #127 - Jun 28^th, 2012 at 1:22pm

skippy. wrote on Jun 28^th, 2012 at 1:09pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 28^th, 2012 at 1:07pm:

skippy. wrote on Jun 28^th, 2012 at 12:59pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 28^th, 2012 at 12:29pm:

Julia Gillard and Rob Oakeshott's bill is dead in the Senate, that's a given. So, what do you wanna bet that Gillard will single out the Coalition and Tony Abbott for her criticism while completely leaving out any mention of the Greens whatsoever - despite them also voting against this bill?

The Greens have always had onshore processing as their policy, Labor know that, why would Labor expect the GREENS to change their policy when the coalition insist their policy is off shore processing? only a moron would argue that point, I see you living up to your expectations.

Labor is in government with the Greens. If Gillard wants a bill passed, talk to that lot.

So you admit phony tony doesn't really want a solution he just wants to bitch, like you. Typical f wits.

Tony offered a solution yesterday. Gillard, being the partisan hack that she is, dashed to grab a six month-old piece of legislation gathering dust that was from Oakeshott instead and refused to allow Abbott to offer his bill for debate. Gillard actually dared the Coalition to vote against that very bill six months ago - but was too scared to put it up for debate at the time. Why is now a good time? She is only interested in scoring cheap political points because she knows that the Coalition will never support her toxic Malaysia non-solution. All this is fact and that just eats you up, doesn't it? You idiotic Leftards have no leg to stand on, with only arguments that are weaker than wet paper. Absolutely disgraceful and I hope that when Abbott becomes PM and reintroduces TPVs, offshore processing (the whole smash) and we see the boats stop, I hope he shoves that bill right down the throats of every Leftarded member of parliament and Senator who refused to support his bill yesterday!

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Re: Why the so-called Malaysian Solution will not work
Reply #128 - Jun 28^th, 2012 at 1:22pm

progressiveslol wrote on Jun 28^th, 2012 at 1:14pm:

skippy. wrote on Jun 28^th, 2012 at 1:13pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Jun 28^th, 2012 at 1:11pm:

skippy. wrote on Jun 28^th, 2012 at 1:10pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Jun 28^th, 2012 at 1:09pm:

skippy. wrote on Jun 28^th, 2012 at 12:59pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 28^th, 2012 at 12:29pm:

Julia Gillard and Rob Oakeshott's bill is dead in the Senate, that's a given. So, what do you wanna bet that Gillard will single out the Coalition and Tony Abbott for her criticism while completely leaving out any mention of the Greens whatsoever - despite them also voting against this bill?

The Greens have always had onshore processing as their policy, Labor know that, why would Labor expect the GREENS to change their policy when the coalition insist their policy is off shore processing? only a moron would argue that point, I see you living up to your expectations.

Because labor should say they will can the carbon tax that the greens are forcing on us, if the greens do not support the malaysia policy.

What a retarded comment.

Well you are known for it.

You wrote it. Only a moron would think blackmail were the answer, you didn't let us down.

Oh, you mean the blackmailing for labor to gain power and greens offering up that blackmail in the order of the carbon tax?

Labor negotiated to gain power, something phony tony was incapable of, suck it up,princess. Cry

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Re: Why the so-called Malaysian Solution will not work
Reply #129 - Jun 28^th, 2012 at 1:24pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 28^th, 2012 at 1:22pm:

skippy. wrote on Jun 28^th, 2012 at 1:09pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 28^th, 2012 at 1:07pm:

skippy. wrote on Jun 28^th, 2012 at 12:59pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 28^th, 2012 at 12:29pm:

Julia Gillard and Rob Oakeshott's bill is dead in the Senate, that's a given. So, what do you wanna bet that Gillard will single out the Coalition and Tony Abbott for her criticism while completely leaving out any mention of the Greens whatsoever - despite them also voting against this bill?

The Greens have always had onshore processing as their policy, Labor know that, why would Labor expect the GREENS to change their policy when the coalition insist their policy is off shore processing? only a moron would argue that point, I see you living up to your expectations.

Labor is in government with the Greens. If Gillard wants a bill passed, talk to that lot.

So you admit phony tony doesn't really want a solution he just wants to bitch, like you. Typical f wits.

Tony offered a solution yesterday. Gillard, being the partisan hack that she is, dashed to grab a six month-old piece of legislation gathering dust that was from Oakeshott instead and refused to allow Abbott to offer his bill for debate. Gillard actually dared the Coalition to vote against that very bill six months ago - but was too scared to put it up for debate at the time. Why is now a good time? She is only interested in scoring cheap political points because she knows that the Coalition will never support her toxic Malaysia non-solution. All this is fact and that just eats you up, doesn't it? You idiotic Leftards have no leg to stand on, with only arguments that are weaker than wet paper. Absolutely disgraceful and I hope that when Abbott becomes PM and reintroduces TPVs, offshore processing (the whole smash) and we see the boats stop, I hope he shoves that bill right down the throats of every Leftarded member of parliament and Senator who refused to support his bill yesterday!

His bill was to restore howards inhumane solution and add in 10k more refugees to be accepted.

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Re: Why the so-called Malaysian Solution will not work
Reply #130 - Jun 28^th, 2012 at 1:26pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 28^th, 2012 at 1:22pm:

skippy. wrote on Jun 28^th, 2012 at 1:09pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 28^th, 2012 at 1:07pm:

skippy. wrote on Jun 28^th, 2012 at 12:59pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 28^th, 2012 at 12:29pm:

Julia Gillard and Rob Oakeshott's bill is dead in the Senate, that's a given. So, what do you wanna bet that Gillard will single out the Coalition and Tony Abbott for her criticism while completely leaving out any mention of the Greens whatsoever - despite them also voting against this bill?

The Greens have always had onshore processing as their policy, Labor know that, why would Labor expect the GREENS to change their policy when the coalition insist their policy is off shore processing? only a moron would argue that point, I see you living up to your expectations.

Labor is in government with the Greens. If Gillard wants a bill passed, talk to that lot.

So you admit phony tony doesn't really want a solution he just wants to bitch, like you. Typical f wits.

Tony offered a solution yesterday. Gillard, being the partisan hack that she is, dashed to grab a six month-old piece of legislation gathering dust that was from Oakeshott instead and refused to allow Abbott to offer his bill for debate. Gillard actually dared the Coalition to vote against that very bill six months ago - but was too scared to put it up for debate at the time. Why is now a good time? She is only interested in scoring cheap political points because she knows that the Coalition will never support her toxic Malaysia non-solution. All this is fact and that just eats you up, doesn't it? You idiotic Leftards have no leg to stand on, with only arguments that are weaker than wet paper. Absolutely disgraceful and I hope that when Abbott becomes PM and reintroduces TPVs, offshore processing (the whole smash) and we see the boats stop, I hope he shoves that bill right down the throats of every Leftarded member of parliament and Senator who refused to support his bill yesterday!

The only one getting eaten up is you, princess,as usual, we chew you up and spit you out. So suck it up, you should be used to getting screwed by now, the weak, like you always are. Grin

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Re: Why the so-called Malaysian Solution will not work
Reply #131 - Jun 28^th, 2012 at 1:34pm

skippy. wrote on Jun 28^th, 2012 at 1:22pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Jun 28^th, 2012 at 1:14pm:

skippy. wrote on Jun 28^th, 2012 at 1:13pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Jun 28^th, 2012 at 1:11pm:

skippy. wrote on Jun 28^th, 2012 at 1:10pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Jun 28^th, 2012 at 1:09pm:

skippy. wrote on Jun 28^th, 2012 at 12:59pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 28^th, 2012 at 12:29pm:

Julia Gillard and Rob Oakeshott's bill is dead in the Senate, that's a given. So, what do you wanna bet that Gillard will single out the Coalition and Tony Abbott for her criticism while completely leaving out any mention of the Greens whatsoever - despite them also voting against this bill?

The Greens have always had onshore processing as their policy, Labor know that, why would Labor expect the GREENS to change their policy when the coalition insist their policy is off shore processing? only a moron would argue that point, I see you living up to your expectations.

Because labor should say they will can the carbon tax that the greens are forcing on us, if the greens do not support the malaysia policy.

What a retarded comment.

Well you are known for it.

You wrote it. Only a moron would think blackmail were the answer, you didn't let us down.

Oh, you mean the blackmailing for labor to gain power and greens offering up that blackmail in the order of the carbon tax?

Labor negotiated to gain power, something phony tony was incapable of, suck it up,princess. Cry

We all are. Payback is a bitc..

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Maqqa Gold Member Offline 14% - that low?! Posts: 16000	Labor scrapped off-shore processing wants it back Reply #132 - Jun 28^th, 2012 at 10:04am That's the issue right here and now. They want it back and they won't admit it was their fault They want it back and they want to make it look as if it was their idea They want it back and they want to score political points This is the only reason why they doggedly want Malaysia to be included
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____ Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 33410 Australia Gender:	Re: Labor scrapped off-shore processing wants it back Reply #133 - Jun 28^th, 2012 at 10:10am So this thread is an attempt to gain political points from humans dying. You lowlife ... unfortunately no one would be surprised.
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progressiveslol Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17029	Re: Labor scrapped off-shore processing wants it back Reply #134 - Jun 28^th, 2012 at 10:11am ____ wrote on Jun 28^th, 2012 at 10:10am: So this thread is an attempt to gain political points from humans dying. You lowlife ... unfortunately no one would be surprised. Labor did not start this thread!!
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