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Re: 270 illegal boats in 2 and a half years
Reply #150 - Jun 26^th, 2012 at 9:55pm

nairbe wrote on Jun 26^th, 2012 at 7:54pm:

And if the Liberal party could accept that they lost the election and behave like adults instead of spoilt children then they would have allowed the changes to the act knowing they can change it when they ascend to power as is their right.

We accept it

And we love the way Labor is destroying the country

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Bill 14% is not the alcohol content of that wine. It's your poll number

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Re: 270 illegal boats in 2 and a half years
Reply #151 - Jun 26^th, 2012 at 9:58pm

nairbe wrote on Jun 26^th, 2012 at 7:54pm:

And if the Liberal party could accept that they lost the election and behave like adults instead of spoilt children then they would have allowed the changes to the act knowing they can change it when they ascend to power as is their right.

Not according to the greens and the carbon tax. Actually not according to labor either.

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Reply #152 - Jun 26^th, 2012 at 10:12pm

Gist wrote on Jun 26^th, 2012 at 3:51pm:

Maqqa wrote on Jun 26^th, 2012 at 3:31pm:

Gist wrote on Jun 26^th, 2012 at 3:17pm:

Never mind the PS numbnut. We're talking about today, not when your grandad was at school. TODAY.

TODAY the Noalition demands that all asylum seekers be sent to Nauru for processing. No exceptions.

My question to all you righties is - what happens to them once they are processed?

PS. You can run but you can't hide Cheesy

The same that happened back in 2007

THEY GOT SENT TO AUSTRALIA IN 2007. EVERY LAST FVCKIN' ONE!!

What a USELESS policy THAT is! YOUR LOT demands we spend megabucks running a detention centre in Nauru to keep them there for a few years just to bring them here? WE MAY AS WELL STOP DICKING AROUND AND JUST ACCEPT THEM HERE IN THE FIRST PLACE YOU MORON!

Can't resist telling lies, eh? By the way, this year we passed 19,000 illegal immigrants since Rudd scrapped the Pacific Solution. That's one hell of an epic failure by Labor, and you know it!

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Re: 270 illegal boats in 2 and a half years
Reply #153 - Jun 27^th, 2012 at 8:30am

A poll in the Daily Telegraph shows that the overwhelming majority believe Gillard should change Labor's policy on border protection, with just under 14,000 voting yes (to change ALP policy) while only just over 1,000 voted no (don't change ALP policy). Labor got it wrong, with the help of the Greens and continues getting it wrong. So let Labor talk to the Greens and fix this mess they created, because the Coalition had a working policy and the Labor Party under Rudd and now Gillard wrecked it.

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Reply #155 - Jun 27^th, 2012 at 8:42am

BlOoDy RiPpEr wrote on Jun 27^th, 2012 at 8:39am:

If Labor was serious about fixing the problem that would put the whole Libs Pacific Solution policy back on the table.

Yep, instead of an ultimatum that the Coalition support her illegal Malaysia deal. She knows Abbott would never support that no matter what (rightly so) and is trying to position herself as reasonable and to look like she wants to fix this problem. In reality, she's the one playing politics with people's lives.

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Re: 270 illegal boats in 2 and a half years
Reply #156 - Jun 27^th, 2012 at 9:05am

Gist wrote on Jun 26^th, 2012 at 5:52pm:

cods wrote on Jun 26^th, 2012 at 5:41pm:

61% ended up in Australia.. why dont you try getting some facts right..even your PM admits to getting that fact wrong.

as far as I know none of them ever came up as being the actual people smugglers???????during the Libs term..

you happy to send them to MALAYSIA in exchange for 4000 where they stand a good chance of being whipped by mega maniac police..and you call that being warm and fuzzy..

no they cannot just come straight here....that means them waiting behind a lot of others.. and having the right papers and all the stuff they dont want to deal with..

this way the people smugglers way and rickety boats means they get here by hook or by crook...and when they do they can make all sorts of demands and this govt has no choice but to comply.. legal aid will see to that.

if you think they will all get in a nice queue in java and wait for Qantas to pick them up then I am sure you will be disappointed.

You're right cods, I was using a bit of artistic license with those numbers. According to the Age:

[quote]More than 95 per cent of asylum seekers who were processed at Nauru's detention centre under the Howard government were resettled in Australia, the foreign affairs minister says.

http://news.theage.com.au/breaking-news-national/refugees-in-nauru-settled-in-au...

So it was only 95% not 100% as I said. Mea culpa. I didn't want to quibble with small change.

And no... I didn't say anything about Malaysia. You're putting words in my mouth. If in fact you'd been following my posts these past week, I'm pretty sure I have mentioned along the way that I don't think Malaysia is an acceptable answer either. Although if the aim is to act as a deterrent then I'm pretty damn sure that Malaysia is a far bigger deterrent than Nauru.
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think you will find thats old news sport I would look it up but cant be bothered to be honest.. you believe whatever you want.hence my comment YOUR PM admitted getting it wrong.

however who would dispute the all knowing everything left!!!

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Reply #157 - Jun 27^th, 2012 at 9:24am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 27^th, 2012 at 8:42am:

BlOoDy RiPpEr wrote on Jun 27^th, 2012 at 8:39am:

If Labor was serious about fixing the problem that would put the whole Libs Pacific Solution policy back on the table.

Yep, instead of an ultimatum that the Coalition support her illegal Malaysia deal. She knows Abbott would never support that no matter what (rightly so) and is trying to position herself as reasonable and to look like she wants to fix this problem. In reality, she's the one playing politics with people's lives.

So... when Lieberals vowed NOT to restore the Pacific Solution you have to ask - why won't they support their own policy? Hmm??

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Reply #158 - Jun 27^th, 2012 at 9:26am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 27^th, 2012 at 8:42am:

BlOoDy RiPpEr wrote on Jun 27^th, 2012 at 8:39am:

If Labor was serious about fixing the problem that would put the whole Libs Pacific Solution policy back on the table.

Yep, instead of an ultimatum that the Coalition support her illegal Malaysia deal. She knows Abbott would never support that no matter what (rightly so) and is trying to position herself as reasonable and to look like she wants to fix this problem. In reality, she's the one playing politics with people's lives.

As a cheerleader, you seem to know all about what Lieberals will and will not do. Could you tell us what policy Lieberals WILL support?

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Reply #159 - Jun 27^th, 2012 at 1:07pm

Gist wrote on Jun 27^th, 2012 at 9:24am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 27^th, 2012 at 8:42am:

BlOoDy RiPpEr wrote on Jun 27^th, 2012 at 8:39am:

If Labor was serious about fixing the problem that would put the whole Libs Pacific Solution policy back on the table.

Yep, instead of an ultimatum that the Coalition support her illegal Malaysia deal. She knows Abbott would never support that no matter what (rightly so) and is trying to position herself as reasonable and to look like she wants to fix this problem. In reality, she's the one playing politics with people's lives.

So... when Lieberals vowed NOT to restore the Pacific Solution you have to ask - why won't they support their own policy? Hmm??

Where and when have the Coalition ever suggested they would not restore the Pacific Solution?

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Re: 270 illegal boats in 2 and a half years
Reply #161 - Jun 27^th, 2012 at 1:19pm

... wrote on Jun 27^th, 2012 at 1:14pm:

meanwhile, in that same 2 and a half years, close to half a million people have migrated here legally, with nary a peep from anyone.

Don't they put the same pressures on our infrastructure and society if they're legal?

Clearly not, because those legal arrivals are budgeted for and have or can easily find a job instead of sponging off taxpayers, as these illegal immigrants do when they arrive by boat.

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Reply #162 - Jun 27^th, 2012 at 1:28pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 27^th, 2012 at 1:19pm:

... wrote on Jun 27^th, 2012 at 1:14pm:

meanwhile, in that same 2 and a half years, close to half a million people have migrated here legally, with nary a peep from anyone.

Don't they put the same pressures on our infrastructure and society if they're legal?

Clearly not, because those legal arrivals are budgeted for and have or can easily find a job instead of sponging off taxpayers, as these illegal immigrants do when they arrive by boat.

Jobs, housing, water etc are finite resources, that are needed whether the occupnat is legal or illegal. Thers also the consideration that not all migrants are skilled, and of those that are, not all are skilled in fields that are in demand.
The REAL reason is that asylum seekers are a mere distraction, while the true campaign of demographic replacement is being conducted with tacit approval.

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Reply #163 - Jun 27^th, 2012 at 6:03pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 27^th, 2012 at 1:19pm:

... wrote on Jun 27^th, 2012 at 1:14pm:

meanwhile, in that same 2 and a half years, close to half a million people have migrated here legally, with nary a peep from anyone.

Don't they put the same pressures on our infrastructure and society if they're legal?

Clearly not, because those legal arrivals are budgeted for and have or can easily find a job instead of sponging off taxpayers, as these illegal immigrants do when they arrive by boat.

Scott Morrison shadow minister for immigration, 7.30 on Monday night. Is that specific enough for you or should I dig out the transcript? I know how techno-challenged you righties are.

Leigh was aghast. Said something like "not even if they introduce your own policy?"

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Reply #164 - Jun 27^th, 2012 at 9:34pm

Gist wrote on Jun 27^th, 2012 at 6:03pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 27^th, 2012 at 1:19pm:

... wrote on Jun 27^th, 2012 at 1:14pm:

meanwhile, in that same 2 and a half years, close to half a million people have migrated here legally, with nary a peep from anyone.

Don't they put the same pressures on our infrastructure and society if they're legal?

Clearly not, because those legal arrivals are budgeted for and have or can easily find a job instead of sponging off taxpayers, as these illegal immigrants do when they arrive by boat.

Scott Morrison shadow minister for immigration, 7.30 on Monday night. Is that specific enough for you or should I dig out the transcript? I know how techno-challenged you righties are.

Leigh was aghast. Said something like "not even if they introduce your own policy?"

I think you've quoted the wrong post because contextually, your comment makes no sense with what I wrote...

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