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Re: ALP: no to offshore processing in UNHCR countries!
Reply #31 - Jun 27^th, 2012 at 4:06pm

Phallic Baldwin wrote on Jun 27^th, 2012 at 4:04pm:

Phallic Baldwin wrote on Jun 27^th, 2012 at 2:47pm:

Question to Labor supporters for my own awareness - is there something that I am missing that would make Malaysia a more viable option despite it not being a signatory?

I'm not trying to start a flame war here - I'm genuinely interested.

I have never understood it. Like i said 800 for 4000? WTF? Its weird. Are they just not telling us what the policy is?

Oh and it seems turning the boats around will send them to indonesia which isnt a signatory for human rights either. So both parties are trying to get around human rights.

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Reply #32 - Jun 27^th, 2012 at 4:13pm

Thanks for the link.

Reading the story it would seem Tony has overruled Scott Morrison & will vote with the Government if they implement the Coalitions policy in full with no amendments.

A pox on both their houses.

But you reap what you sow.

I hope Tony never requires consensus whilst his in government.

Then again they'll probably fold. Angry

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Reply #33 - Jun 27^th, 2012 at 4:15pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 27^th, 2012 at 4:06pm:

Phallic Baldwin wrote on Jun 27^th, 2012 at 4:04pm:

Phallic Baldwin wrote on Jun 27^th, 2012 at 2:47pm:

Question to Labor supporters for my own awareness - is there something that I am missing that would make Malaysia a more viable option despite it not being a signatory?

I'm not trying to start a flame war here - I'm genuinely interested.

I have never understood it. Like i said 800 for 4000? WTF? Its weird. Are they just not telling us what the policy is?

Oh and it seems turning the boats around will send them to indonesia which isnt a signatory for human rights either. So both parties are trying to get around human rights.

SOB

People smugglers currently send from Indonesia 800 people in the space of a week or two. Then what? What would the government do for the other 50 weeks in the year? Labor's position on this issue is ridiculous. Gillard said she would never send anyone to a non UN signatory country, yet now she is hellbent on sending them to one - Malaysia. She wants offshore processing, but refuses to support Coalition attempts to put forward a policy that would allow just that. Labor and the Left haven't got a leg to stand on on this issue.

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Reply #34 - Jun 27^th, 2012 at 4:28pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 27^th, 2012 at 4:00pm:

Malaysia deal cannot be implemented because it strips away the human rights of people taken from our care to Malaysia and that is one reason why it was ruled illegal by the High Court - because Australia would fail in its duty of care to those people by sending them to a place like Malaysia, which is not a signatory to the UN convention on refugees.

Really? what rights do the refugees have if Tony tirns the boats around and sends them back to Indonesia? ... where is his concern for the rights of refugees then? they aren't a signatory to the refugee convention either ....

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Reply #35 - Jun 27^th, 2012 at 4:31pm

Dsmithy70 wrote on Jun 27^th, 2012 at 4:13pm:

Thanks for the link.

Reading the story it would seem Tony has overruled Scott Morrison & will vote with the Government if they implement the Coalitions policy in full with no amendments.

A pox on both their houses.

But you reap what you sow.

I hope Tony never requires consensus whilst his in government.

Then again they'll probably fold. Angry

By that time the socialist left will be quietly being moved on and having their preselections torn up....
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Re: ALP: no to offshore processing in UNHCR countries!
Reply #36 - Jun 27^th, 2012 at 4:34pm

Prevailing wrote on Jun 27^th, 2012 at 4:31pm:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Jun 27^th, 2012 at 4:13pm:

Thanks for the link.

Reading the story it would seem Tony has overruled Scott Morrison & will vote with the Government if they implement the Coalitions policy in full with no amendments.

A pox on both their houses.

But you reap what you sow.

I hope Tony never requires consensus whilst his in government.

Then again they'll probably fold. Angry

By that time the socialist left will be quietly being moved on and having their preselections torn up....
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Prevailing Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 7169 Stop Men	Re: ALP: no to offshore processing in UNHCR countries! Reply #37 - Jun 27^th, 2012 at 4:39pm This is the day the Government died in Parliament, they will never recover from this hypocrisy...
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Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 58622 Here Gender:	Re: ALP: no to offshore processing in UNHCR countries! Reply #38 - Jun 27^th, 2012 at 5:03pm Tnoy again caught out being a hypocrite when the Liberal preferred system ran for years without unhcr sanction. Its all about political gain - one-upmanship - the current dishonesty from the Liberals is outstanding. The actions of weasels - it would be funny if it were not so sad.
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Prevailing Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 7169 Stop Men	Re: ALP: no to offshore processing in UNHCR countries! Reply #39 - Jun 27^th, 2012 at 5:05pm The Government still not compromise on its intractable insistence on Malaysia - they are hopeless.
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Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 58622 Here Gender:	Re: ALP: no to offshore processing in UNHCR countries! Reply #40 - Jun 27^th, 2012 at 5:07pm Prevailing wrote on Jun 27^th, 2012 at 5:05pm: The Government still not compromise on its intractable insistence on Malaysia - they are hopeless. The opposition still not compromise on its intractable insistence on Nauru - they are hopeless
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Reply #41 - Jun 27^th, 2012 at 5:13pm

No one answered ... why if Abbott is insistent that he won't support Malaysia because it's not a signatory of the UN refugee convention, does he say if he wins government he will turn the boats back to Indonesia? Indonesia is NOT a SIGNATORY either ... at least the ALP has negotiated certain human rights conditions with Malaysia, the libs want to send them back with no guarantee's that they'll be treated humanely

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Reply #42 - Jun 27^th, 2012 at 5:17pm

I watched the whole saga. Both parties should hang their heads in shame. Neither of them were going to agree on the other parties deal - Gillard wants offshore processing including Malyasia, whilst Abbot wants offshore processing and no Malaysia. The only shining light in a political sewer was Turnbull - he spoke frankly and made sense.

He also reminded them that the Senate would probably block either deal anyway. I think that is when I realsied I had wasted an hour of my life on a bunch of petty people toeing the party lines.

I wonder what both parties would do if Malaysia signed the refugee charter? That would be interesting

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Reply #43 - Jun 27^th, 2012 at 5:20pm

lisa.greek wrote on Jun 27^th, 2012 at 5:17pm:

I watched the whole saga. Both parties should hang their heads in shame. Neither of them were going to agree on the other parties deal - Gillard wants offshore processing including Malyasia, whilst Abbot wants offshore processing and no Malaysia. The only shining light in a political sewer was Turnbull - he spoke frankly and made sense.

He also reminded them that the Senate would probably block either deal anyway. I think that is when I realsied I had wasted an hour of my life on a bunch of petty people toeing the party lines.

I wonder what both parties would do if Malaysia signed the refugee charter? That would be interesting

WTF? Watched? Its over? Its still going here. SPOILERS!

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Re: ALP: no to offshore processing in UNHCR countries!
Reply #44 - Jun 27^th, 2012 at 5:26pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 27^th, 2012 at 4:06pm:

Phallic Baldwin wrote on Jun 27^th, 2012 at 4:04pm:

Phallic Baldwin wrote on Jun 27^th, 2012 at 2:47pm:

Question to Labor supporters for my own awareness - is there something that I am missing that would make Malaysia a more viable option despite it not being a signatory?

I'm not trying to start a flame war here - I'm genuinely interested.

I have never understood it. Like i said 800 for 4000? WTF? Its weird. Are they just not telling us what the policy is?

Oh and it seems turning the boats around will send them to indonesia which isnt a signatory for human rights either. So both parties are trying to get around human rights.

SOB

Me and you both. Indonesia not being a signatory is contradictory as you are either sending them or turning them back to a non-signatory country.

I'm not giving up on an answer with this

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