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Question: Why has Abbott voted against stopping the boats.

Concern for asylum seekers    
  2 (8.3%)
Political advantage    
  18 (75.0%)
Other    
  4 (16.7%)




Total votes: 24
« Created by: MOTR on: Jun 29th, 2012 at 3:23am »

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Re: Why not stop the boats, Tony?
Reply #105 - Jun 30th, 2012 at 7:25pm
 
Avram Horowitz wrote on Jun 30th, 2012 at 6:26pm:
John Smith wrote on Jun 30th, 2012 at 5:39pm:
Avram Horowitz wrote on Jun 30th, 2012 at 5:31pm:
You pay not a cent for us who come on visas. All paid by my family.

Tell me why do you accept paying for these people?
Why do they not pay for themselves?

Hatred? Racism? I told you this is nothing about race, it is about Behaving correctly.
These people offer you nothing. Tell me what do they offer you???


I'd rather pay for them than get you for free ......

And you can pretend you're not being racist now, but your history on here shows you normally stereotype them as Arabs, or paki's or some other group you don't like


Then I am sure you will be glad to know I am leaving for Tel Aviv on Wednesday for 2 weeks.
My views on Arabs are from personal experience on their behavior to me.



Ive never had any personal problems with Arabs, Muslims or Jews..have you thought that maybe its you?
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Re: Why not stop the boats, Tony?
Reply #106 - Jun 30th, 2012 at 7:25pm
 
Another stupid lefty thread.
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Re: Why not stop the boats, Tony?
Reply #107 - Jun 30th, 2012 at 7:26pm
 
Avram Horowitz wrote on Jun 30th, 2012 at 7:18pm:
tonegunman1 wrote on Jun 30th, 2012 at 6:36pm:
Avram Horowitz wrote on Jun 30th, 2012 at 6:26pm:
John Smith wrote on Jun 30th, 2012 at 5:39pm:
Avram Horowitz wrote on Jun 30th, 2012 at 5:31pm:
You pay not a cent for us who come on visas. All paid by my family.

Tell me why do you accept paying for these people?
Why do they not pay for themselves?

Hatred? Racism? I told you this is nothing about race, it is about Behaving correctly.
These people offer you nothing. Tell me what do they offer you???


I'd rather pay for them than get you for free ......

And you can pretend you're not being racist now, but your history on here shows you normally stereotype them as Arabs, or paki's or some other group you don't like


Then I am sure you will be glad to know I am leaving for Tel Aviv on Wednesday for 2 weeks.
My views on Arabs are from personal experience on their behavior to me.



Maybe you should stay there along with your flag rather than march around in your jackboots here with your star of david swastika.



Anti-semitism


every single time you say something stupid (which is often) and someone puts you in your place you resort to calling them anti semitics ..... this , from  you, has just come to mean that you accept defeat and have nothing intelligent to say.
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Re: Why not stop the boats, Tony?
Reply #108 - Jun 30th, 2012 at 7:26pm
 
adelcrow wrote on Jun 30th, 2012 at 7:25pm:
Avram Horowitz wrote on Jun 30th, 2012 at 6:26pm:
John Smith wrote on Jun 30th, 2012 at 5:39pm:
Avram Horowitz wrote on Jun 30th, 2012 at 5:31pm:
You pay not a cent for us who come on visas. All paid by my family.

Tell me why do you accept paying for these people?
Why do they not pay for themselves?

Hatred? Racism? I told you this is nothing about race, it is about Behaving correctly.
These people offer you nothing. Tell me what do they offer you???


I'd rather pay for them than get you for free ......

And you can pretend you're not being racist now, but your history on here shows you normally stereotype them as Arabs, or paki's or some other group you don't like


Then I am sure you will be glad to know I am leaving for Tel Aviv on Wednesday for 2 weeks.
My views on Arabs are from personal experience on their behavior to me.



Ive never had any personal problems with Arabs, Muslims or Jews..have you thought that maybe its you?


I doubt it ever occured to him ....
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Our esteemed leader:
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Re: Why not stop the boats, Tony?
Reply #109 - Jun 30th, 2012 at 7:42pm
 
John Smith wrote on Jun 30th, 2012 at 7:26pm:
adelcrow wrote on Jun 30th, 2012 at 7:25pm:
Avram Horowitz wrote on Jun 30th, 2012 at 6:26pm:
John Smith wrote on Jun 30th, 2012 at 5:39pm:
Avram Horowitz wrote on Jun 30th, 2012 at 5:31pm:
You pay not a cent for us who come on visas. All paid by my family.

Tell me why do you accept paying for these people?
Why do they not pay for themselves?

Hatred? Racism? I told you this is nothing about race, it is about Behaving correctly.
These people offer you nothing. Tell me what do they offer you???


I'd rather pay for them than get you for free ......

And you can pretend you're not being racist now, but your history on here shows you normally stereotype them as Arabs, or paki's or some other group you don't like


Then I am sure you will be glad to know I am leaving for Tel Aviv on Wednesday for 2 weeks.
My views on Arabs are from personal experience on their behavior to me.



Ive never had any personal problems with Arabs, Muslims or Jews..have you thought that maybe its you?


I doubt it ever occured to him ....


My wife and I shared a lift while at a conference in Hong Kong last week with a Saudi fella wearing all the traditional Saudi gear, we had quite a nice polite conversation and he didnt try and kill me once or curse my wife for not wearing a burka.
In fact he was quite a nice friendly fella.
I reckon its down to individuals and how they treat each other in their day to day lives
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Re: Why not stop the boats, Tony?
Reply #110 - Jun 30th, 2012 at 7:47pm
 
Yes how would I know?

I only talked to around 500 per day at the border.
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Re: Why not stop the boats, Tony?
Reply #111 - Jul 1st, 2012 at 6:09am
 
chicken_lipsforme wrote on Jun 30th, 2012 at 7:25pm:
Another stupid lefty thread.



What exactly makes this thread "lefty"?

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Re: Why not stop the boats, Tony?
Reply #112 - Jul 1st, 2012 at 6:10am
 
Avram Horowitz wrote on Jun 30th, 2012 at 7:47pm:
Yes how would I know?

I only talked to around 500 per day at the border.


With a gun on your arm and a nasty attitude. What do you expect?

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Re: Why not stop the boats, Tony?
Reply #113 - Jul 1st, 2012 at 8:25am
 
Back on Topic, Tony Abbott is not the one to blame for the Boat people situation, he is not the prime minister or the imigration.

the situation starts and finishs with the labor party government and their indepenent supporters.

How you stop the boats is you get the fn imigration dept, staff out of there fn officers in sydney and melbourne get them off their arses and over to Indonesia to set up a administration centre and go looking for Boats leaving Indonesia and stop them.
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Re: Why not stop the boats, Tony?
Reply #114 - Jul 1st, 2012 at 9:44am
 
Tony is happy to tow boats back to Indonesia but baulks at sending asylum seekers to Malaysia. Neither are signatories to the UNHCR convention. The Malaysian solution would break the business model of the people smugglers, Nauru won't. Tony won't work towards stopping the boats because he believes they are a political asset.
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Re: Why not stop the boats, Tony?
Reply #115 - Jul 1st, 2012 at 10:22am
 
Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 30th, 2012 at 9:06am:
MOTR wrote on Jun 30th, 2012 at 9:01am:
progressiveslol wrote on Jun 29th, 2012 at 6:34pm:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 29th, 2012 at 6:32pm:
this is complete bulls1t. abbott is opposition not government. he has no right to block gillards policy and insist she use his. she is pm. her policy is the one that he needs to let pass to save lives.

The assumption here that abbotts policy should pass is wrong. Gillard is the government. Her policy should pass and abbott is blocking it. He is responsible fpor the deaths - all in the name of politics.

Of course imo the greens idea is the best but they arent the goernment either and also cant demand thier policy be adopted.

Howards policy was removed because it was inhumane. Reinstating it is more inhumane because now we know its inhumane. Malaysia is just as bad but the government has the call. Not abbott. He is just obstructing.

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Yeh yeh. If labor wanted to save lives like liberals do, then she would pass a policy that would save lives, has a track record of a raging success. She would not at this stage in the game, play experiments(malaysia policy) against peoples lives.

Pacific solution is called solution because it is.

malaysia policy is a policy, an experiment, not a solution.


Progs, why would interning people in Malaysia be less effective than interning people in Nauru.



Also, this month has seen 1,641 arrivals. The Malaysia deal is useless in just over a week. Swan budgeted for 450 arrivals per month. We're currently getting nearly four times that.


So Nauru takes 1,200 people. It can be expanded to 1,500 people at most and can't be expanded beyond that.

By your numbers it would be full in under a month.

Then what are you going to do moron? What do you do with all the people coming after Nauru is full???
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Re: Why not stop the boats, Tony?
Reply #116 - Jul 1st, 2012 at 7:37pm
 
Avram Horowitz wrote on Jun 30th, 2012 at 7:18pm:
tonegunman1 wrote on Jun 30th, 2012 at 6:36pm:
Avram Horowitz wrote on Jun 30th, 2012 at 6:26pm:
John Smith wrote on Jun 30th, 2012 at 5:39pm:
Avram Horowitz wrote on Jun 30th, 2012 at 5:31pm:
You pay not a cent for us who come on visas. All paid by my family.

Tell me why do you accept paying for these people?
Why do they not pay for themselves?

Hatred? Racism? I told you this is nothing about race, it is about Behaving correctly.
These people offer you nothing. Tell me what do they offer you???


I'd rather pay for them than get you for free ......

And you can pretend you're not being racist now, but your history on here shows you normally stereotype them as Arabs, or paki's or some other group you don't like


Then I am sure you will be glad to know I am leaving for Tel Aviv on Wednesday for 2 weeks.
My views on Arabs are from personal experience on their behavior to me.



Maybe you should stay there along with your flag rather than march around in your jackboots here with your star of david swastika.



Anti-semitism


Anti-bigot...anti-you!


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Re: Why not stop the boats, Tony?
Reply #117 - Jul 1st, 2012 at 8:33pm
 
Avram Horowitz wrote on Jun 30th, 2012 at 7:47pm:
Yes how would I know?

I only talked to around 500 per day at the border.



Was that on PS2 or PS3?

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Re: Why not stop the boats, Tony?
Reply #118 - Jul 1st, 2012 at 8:47pm
 
Why not stop the boats, Tony?

If elected on the first day he wil cancel the Manly Ferry.
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Re: Why not stop the boats, Tony?
Reply #119 - Jul 1st, 2012 at 9:01pm
 
Dnarever wrote on Jul 1st, 2012 at 8:47pm:
Why not stop the boats, Tony?

If elected on the first day he wil cancel the Manly Ferry.

That is the best greens policy ever.
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