Australian Politics Forum - Why not stop the boats, Tony?

MOTR Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6646	Re: Why not stop the boats, Tony? Reply #135 - Jul 2^nd, 2012 at 10:22am Processing asylum seekers offshore hides the harsh reality of mandatory detention.
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Sir Spot of Borg Gold Member Offline WE ARE BORG Posts: 26512 Australia	Re: Why not stop the boats, Tony? Reply #136 - Jul 2^nd, 2012 at 10:41am MOTR wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2012 at 10:22am: Processing asylum seekers offshore hides the harsh reality of mandatory detention. That it isnt it but they obviously bring them to the mainland anyway. SOB
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Re: Why not stop the boats, Tony?
Reply #137 - Jul 2^nd, 2012 at 10:44am

MOTR wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2012 at 10:22am:

Processing asylum seekers offshore hides the harsh reality of mandatory detention.

The harsh reality is that they are safer than where they came from (apparently that is why they came). Being safer and in safety, that is what is to be achieved and is achieved.

That is humane. They need to be processed so we know who they are. That is for our safety which comes first.

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MOTR Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6646	Re: Why not stop the boats, Tony? Reply #138 - Jul 2^nd, 2012 at 10:46am Most of them would have been those who arrived before the introduction of the Pacific Solution, and of course overstayers.
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Re: Why not stop the boats, Tony?
Reply #139 - Jul 2^nd, 2012 at 10:49am

progressiveslol wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2012 at 10:44am:

MOTR wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2012 at 10:22am:

Processing asylum seekers offshore hides the harsh reality of mandatory detention.

The harsh reality is that they are safer than where they came from (apparently that is why they came). Being safer and in safety, that is what is to be achieved and is achieved.

That is humane. They need to be processed so we know who they are. That is for our safety which comes first.

Many countries process their asylum seekers in the community. There is no greater risk than any other new immigrant. Do you have any statistical evidence to back your claims, progs?

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Re: Why not stop the boats, Tony?
Reply #140 - Jul 2^nd, 2012 at 10:50am

MOTR wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2012 at 10:49am:

progressiveslol wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2012 at 10:44am:

MOTR wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2012 at 10:22am:

Processing asylum seekers offshore hides the harsh reality of mandatory detention.

The harsh reality is that they are safer than where they came from (apparently that is why they came). Being safer and in safety, that is what is to be achieved and is achieved.

That is humane. They need to be processed so we know who they are. That is for our safety which comes first.

Many countries process their asylum seekers in the community. There is no greater risk than any other new immigrant. Do you have any statistical evidence to back your claims, progs?

I dont need to back my claims. They are safe now, we will be safe when we know who they are.

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Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 58820 Here Gender:	Re: Why not stop the boats, Tony? Reply #141 - Jul 2^nd, 2012 at 10:52am The most dangerous people fly first calsss
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progressiveslol Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17029	Re: Why not stop the boats, Tony? Reply #142 - Jul 2^nd, 2012 at 10:56am Dnarever wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2012 at 10:52am: The most dangerous people fly first calsss Maybe so, but you would know who they were.
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MOTR Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6646	Re: Why not stop the boats, Tony? Reply #143 - Jul 2^nd, 2012 at 11:00am Fascists and totalitarians have a long history of dehumanising and exaggerating the criminal threat posed by refugees and other scapegoats, for their own political advantage. We should all be pulling up agitators who are happy to use this type of strategy.
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progressiveslol Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17029	Re: Why not stop the boats, Tony? Reply #144 - Jul 2^nd, 2012 at 11:02am MOTR wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2012 at 11:00am: Fascists and totalitarians have a long history of dehumanising and exaggerating the criminal threat posed by refugees and other scapegoats, for their own political advantage. We should all be pulling up agitators who are happy to use this type of strategy. Yeh go for it.
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Sir Spot of Borg Gold Member Offline WE ARE BORG Posts: 26512 Australia	Re: Why not stop the boats, Tony? Reply #145 - Jul 2^nd, 2012 at 11:04am Actually wasnt a new detention center built in brisbane recently? Over near the airport? Why? SOB
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Re: Why not stop the boats, Tony?
Reply #146 - Jul 2^nd, 2012 at 11:17am

progressiveslol wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2012 at 11:02am:

MOTR wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2012 at 11:00am:

Fascists and totalitarians have a long history of dehumanising and exaggerating the criminal threat posed by refugees and other scapegoats, for their own political advantage. We should all be pulling up agitators who are happy to use this type of strategy.

Yeh go for it.

O.K. where is your evidence, progs.

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Re: Why not stop the boats, Tony?
Reply #147 - Jul 2^nd, 2012 at 11:25am

MOTR wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2012 at 11:17am:

progressiveslol wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2012 at 11:02am:

MOTR wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2012 at 11:00am:

Fascists and totalitarians have a long history of dehumanising and exaggerating the criminal threat posed by refugees and other scapegoats, for their own political advantage. We should all be pulling up agitators who are happy to use this type of strategy.

Yeh go for it.

O.K. where is your evidence, progs.

Evidence for what. You made the statement, I just said go for it.

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corporate_whitey Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 8896 Archivist	Re: Why not stop the boats, Tony? Reply #148 - Jul 2^nd, 2012 at 11:38am The Crown has a legal obligation to ensure the security of the borders of Australian citizens and free customs. and Julia Gillard is the person who holds the office of Prime Minister. Julia Gillard is breaking the law and there is grounds for her impeachment and legal removal from office.
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Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 58820 Here Gender:	Re: Why not stop the boats, Tony? Reply #149 - Jul 2^nd, 2012 at 11:41am progressiveslol wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2012 at 10:56am: Dnarever wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2012 at 10:52am: The most dangerous people fly first calsss Maybe so, but you would know who they were. Mossad agents on forged Australian documents? It could happen - whoops - it did.
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Question: Why has Abbott voted against stopping the boats.
Concern for asylum seekers 2 (8.3%) Political advantage 18 (75.0%) Other 4 (16.7%) Total votes: 24 « Created by: MOTR on: Jun 29^th, 2012 at 3:23am »