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Re: Why not stop the boats, Tony?
Reply #150 - Jul 2^nd, 2012 at 11:48am

Dnarever wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2012 at 11:41am:

progressiveslol wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2012 at 10:56am:

Dnarever wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2012 at 10:52am:

The most dangerous people fly first calsss

Maybe so, but you would know who they were.

Mossad agents on forged Australian documents?

It could happen - whoops - it did.

Yes and that is something else the government needs to fix.

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Re: Why not stop the boats, Tony?
Reply #151 - Jul 3^rd, 2012 at 7:58am

Just read this in a piece by Peter van Onselen on the asylum seeker policy stand-off:

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One well-placed Liberal source told The Australian that Abbott would rather see Labor continue to bleed politically with ongoing boat arrivals. If that means deaths at sea continue, he said, so be it.

Anyone here think there is not substance to this?

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Re: Why not stop the boats, Tony?
Reply #152 - Jul 3^rd, 2012 at 9:05am

I think you are just very soft.

The reasons for this I think are many and different.
Living other side of the world to rest if us in the world, the fact you have no conflict to face, and that you don't understand how it is to face enemies.

Your youth is lazy and overweight, I look at them and see them compared to my 20 year old cousin who is now in national service in the army at home.

In Australia you are immune to real problems is my analysis of the last 7 months.
You worry about the UN and that you must follow every word they say on refugees where I am used to my government ignoring the UN. Why? Because we know they can't touch us. But you don't understand this and you worry.

These boat people. You should not allow them to ignore your rules. You should stand firm and refuse to let them in. But you need strong leadership and because you are so lazy I don't think you do anything about it.

I am waiting for my plane now to take me to Bangkok and then on to Ben Gurion with El Al but I honestly assure you this time tomorrow when I speak to my friends and family at home and they ask me what is Australia like - they will not understand some of the things you do.

Be much stronger than you are and become better and less lazy.

I will see everyone in 3 weeks when I return for my last 5 months in your country.

Shahlom my Aussies.

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MOTR Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6646	Re: Why not stop the boats, Tony? Reply #153 - Jul 3^rd, 2012 at 9:11am You are in for a shock when you get home, Avram. Nearly a half of Israeli adults are overweight and over a third of their children. Although to be fair to you personally, Avram, you are probably in the "sink em" camp.
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Sir Spot of Borg Gold Member Offline WE ARE BORG Posts: 26512 Australia	Re: Why not stop the boats, Tony? Reply #154 - Jul 3^rd, 2012 at 9:31am No compassion @ all. I just hope all jews arent like him. Oh - oops Was that "anti-semitism"? SOB
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Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 58820 Here Gender:	Re: Why not stop the boats, Tony? Reply #155 - Jul 3^rd, 2012 at 12:23pm Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2012 at 9:31am: No compassion @ all. I just hope all jews arent like him. Oh - oops Was that "anti-semitism"? NO SOB Me Too It is sad to think that the jewish people may have become what they hate.
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Re: Why not stop the boats, Tony?
Reply #156 - Jul 3^rd, 2012 at 1:31pm

Avram Horowitz wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2012 at 9:05am:

I think you are just very soft.

The reasons for this I think are many and different.
Living other side of the world to rest if us in the world, the fact you have no conflict to face, and that you don't understand how it is to face enemies.

Your youth is lazy and overweight, I look at them and see them compared to my 20 year old cousin who is now in national service in the army at home.

In Australia you are immune to real problems is my analysis of the last 7 months.
You worry about the UN and that you must follow every word they say on refugees where I am used to my government ignoring the UN. Why? Because we know they can't touch us. But you don't understand this and you worry.

These boat people. You should not allow them to ignore your rules. You should stand firm and refuse to let them in. But you need strong leadership and because you are so lazy I don't think you do anything about it.

I am waiting for my plane now to take me to Bangkok and then on to Ben Gurion with El Al but I honestly assure you this time tomorrow when I speak to my friends and family at home and they ask me what is Australia like - they will not understand some of the things you do.

Be much stronger than you are and become better and less lazy.

I will see everyone in 3 weeks when I return for my last 5 months in your country.

Shahlom my Aussies.

Why are you returning, if Australia is so bad?

Perhaps you could cash in your return ticket and buy a book or two:

Actually, that one is probably on your book shelf already. Wink

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Re: Why not stop the boats, Tony?
Reply #157 - Jul 3^rd, 2012 at 7:27pm

MOTR wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2012 at 7:58am:

Just read this in a piece by Peter van Onselen on the asylum seeker policy stand-off:

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One well-placed Liberal source told The Australian that Abbott would rather see Labor continue to bleed politically with ongoing boat arrivals. If that means deaths at sea continue, he said, so be it.

Anyone here think there is not substance to this?

of course there is no substance to it. The worrying thing is that there are obviously idiots who so think it is true.

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Re: Why not stop the boats, Tony?
Reply #158 - Jul 3^rd, 2012 at 7:29pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2012 at 7:27pm:

MOTR wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2012 at 7:58am:

Just read this in a piece by Peter van Onselen on the asylum seeker policy stand-off:

Quote:

One well-placed Liberal source told The Australian that Abbott would rather see Labor continue to bleed politically with ongoing boat arrivals. If that means deaths at sea continue, he said, so be it.

Anyone here think there is not substance to this?

of course there is no substance to it. The worrying thing is that there are obviously idiots who so think it is true.

Are you saying this is an imaginary source?

If I was Tony, I'd be suing Murdoch. Although perhaps I wouldn't want to put him offside.

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Re: Why not stop the boats, Tony?
Reply #159 - Jul 3^rd, 2012 at 7:37pm

MOTR wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2012 at 7:29pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2012 at 7:27pm:

MOTR wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2012 at 7:58am:

Just read this in a piece by Peter van Onselen on the asylum seeker policy stand-off:

Quote:

One well-placed Liberal source told The Australian that Abbott would rather see Labor continue to bleed politically with ongoing boat arrivals. If that means deaths at sea continue, he said, so be it.

Anyone here think there is not substance to this?

of course there is no substance to it. The worrying thing is that there are obviously idiots who so think it is true.

Are you saying this is an imaginary source?

If I was Tony, I'd be suing Murdoch. Although perhaps I wouldn't want to put him offside.

its just another of those fabrications or imaginations. if you heard that Rudd stopped the Pacific solution to cause deaths would you believe it? Would you believe it for a second if someone claimed that Gillard wanted more deaths? There is the same level of reason to believe Abbott thinks the same. after all, its not like he isnt massively in front anyhow.

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AUSSIE: "Speaking for myself, I could not care less about 298 human beings having their life snuffed out in a nano-second, or what impact that loss has on Members of their family, their parents..."

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Re: Why not stop the boats, Tony?
Reply #160 - Jul 3^rd, 2012 at 7:39pm

MOTR wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2012 at 7:29pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2012 at 7:27pm:

MOTR wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2012 at 7:58am:

Just read this in a piece by Peter van Onselen on the asylum seeker policy stand-off:

Quote:

One well-placed Liberal source told The Australian that Abbott would rather see Labor continue to bleed politically with ongoing boat arrivals. If that means deaths at sea continue, he said, so be it.

Anyone here think there is not substance to this?

of course there is no substance to it. The worrying thing is that there are obviously idiots who so think it is true.

Are you saying this is an imaginary source?

If I was Tony, I'd be suing Murdoch. Although perhaps I wouldn't want to put him offside.

its probably another of those 'poo happens' beat ups (at best). a comment with all context removed. And that is if there is ANY truth to it - which i doubt.

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AUSSIE: "Speaking for myself, I could not care less about 298 human beings having their life snuffed out in a nano-second, or what impact that loss has on Members of their family, their parents..."

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Re: Why not stop the boats, Tony?
Reply #161 - Jul 3^rd, 2012 at 7:51pm

MOTR wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2012 at 7:29pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2012 at 7:27pm:

MOTR wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2012 at 7:58am:

Just read this in a piece by Peter van Onselen on the asylum seeker policy stand-off:

Quote:

One well-placed Liberal source told The Australian that Abbott would rather see Labor continue to bleed politically with ongoing boat arrivals. If that means deaths at sea continue, he said, so be it.

Anyone here think there is not substance to this?

of course there is no substance to it. The worrying thing is that there are obviously idiots who so think it is true.

Are you saying this is an imaginary source?

If I was Tony, I'd be suing Murdoch. Although perhaps I wouldn't want to put him offside.

"One well placed liberal source..." Well there it is...how can you argue with such credible and damning evidence. Did he say that even if there were children with adorable puppies and kittens? What a crock full of shyte!

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MOTR Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6646	Re: Why not stop the boats, Tony? Reply #162 - Jul 3^rd, 2012 at 7:56pm I respect your position. Indeed, I was thinking the same thing. Then I thought why would a journalist employed by Murdoch fabricate such a limb for himself. Just a thought.
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Re: Why not stop the boats, Tony?
Reply #163 - Jul 3^rd, 2012 at 8:40pm

MOTR wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2012 at 7:56pm:

I respect your position. Indeed, I was thinking the same thing. Then I thought why would a journalist employed by Murdoch fabricate such a limb for himself. Just a thought.

the standard of journalism has plummeted somewhat over the years. Even finding an article long on facts, full of interest and devoid of opinon is like finding a jewel. But the public is to blame. We apparently dont want facts. We want invective and hyperbole. ANd because one person wants that the opponent has to respon in kind otherwise the message is totally lost.

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AUSSIE: "Speaking for myself, I could not care less about 298 human beings having their life snuffed out in a nano-second, or what impact that loss has on Members of their family, their parents..."

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Re: Why not stop the boats, Tony?
Reply #164 - Jul 3^rd, 2012 at 8:54pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2012 at 8:40pm:

MOTR wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2012 at 7:56pm:

I respect your position. Indeed, I was thinking the same thing. Then I thought why would a journalist employed by Murdoch fabricate such a limb for himself. Just a thought.

the standard of journalism has plummeted somewhat over the years. Even finding an article long on facts, full of interest and devoid of opinon is like finding a jewel. But the public is to blame. We apparently dont want facts. We want invective and hyperbole. ANd because one person wants that the opponent has to respon in kind otherwise the message is totally lost.

I don't buy it, Longy. You are accusing a senior journalist of outright fabrication, not merely hyberbolising.

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Question: Why has Abbott voted against stopping the boats.
Concern for asylum seekers 2 (8.3%) Political advantage 18 (75.0%) Other 4 (16.7%) Total votes: 24 « Created by: MOTR on: Jun 29^th, 2012 at 3:23am »