Australian Politics Forum - Why not stop the boats, Tony?

MOTR

Gold Member

Offline

Australian Politics

Posts: 6646

Re: Why not stop the boats, Tony?
Reply #180 - Jul 4^th, 2012 at 8:36am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jul 4^th, 2012 at 8:28am:

Another boat, another policy failure by Gillard and Bowen...

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/national/asylum-seeker-boat-near-indonesia...

You see how this works for Tony. He is the one that needs to compromise. He knows that tow backs are out of the question so Nauru is hardly going to be the deterrent it once was. If you want to stop the boats without substantially increasing refugee quotas, Malaysia has to be part of the solution.

Back to top

Hunt says Coalition accepts IPCC findings

"What does this mean? It means that we need to do practical things that actually reduce emissions."

IP Logged

MOTR

Gold Member

Offline

Australian Politics

Posts: 6646

Re: Why not stop the boats, Tony?
Reply #181 - Jul 4^th, 2012 at 8:41am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jul 4^th, 2012 at 8:30am:

MOTR wrote on Jul 4^th, 2012 at 8:28am:

That's ridiculous, armchair, of course they are going to know. By your own logic Nauru isn't going to work anyway.

Really? Why would Nauru not work?

Nauru worked because of the tow backs. Indonesia is no longer prepared to accept tow backs.

Using your own flawed logic the current rate of arrivals would also very quickly swamp Nauru's capacity.

Back to top

Hunt says Coalition accepts IPCC findings

"What does this mean? It means that we need to do practical things that actually reduce emissions."

IP Logged

progressiveslol

Gold Member

Offline

Australian Politics

Posts: 17029

Re: Why not stop the boats, Tony?
Reply #182 - Jul 4^th, 2012 at 9:00am

MOTR wrote on Jul 4^th, 2012 at 8:41am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jul 4^th, 2012 at 8:30am:

MOTR wrote on Jul 4^th, 2012 at 8:28am:

That's ridiculous, armchair, of course they are going to know. By your own logic Nauru isn't going to work anyway.

Really? Why would Nauru not work?

Nauru worked because of the tow backs. Indonesia is no longer prepared to accept tow backs.

Using your own flawed logic the current rate of arrivals would also very quickly swamp Nauru's capacity.

They must want the boats back. apparently they just asked for their indonesian crew members back. Abbott will just save the trouble of gaoling them first and say "here ya go, there is your crew members back" + cargo

Back to top

IP Logged

MOTR Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6646	Re: Why not stop the boats, Tony? Reply #183 - Jul 4^th, 2012 at 9:06am Indonesia wants us to take responsibility for the asylum seekers. they don't want the boats towed back. Abbott knows this and Bishop has promised SBY it won't happen. Things have changed and it is very unlikely Nauru will work the way it did.
Back to top	Hunt says Coalition accepts IPCC findings "What does this mean? It means that we need to do practical things that actually reduce emissions." IP Logged

progressiveslol

Gold Member

Offline

Australian Politics

Posts: 17029

Re: Why not stop the boats, Tony?
Reply #184 - Jul 4^th, 2012 at 9:11am

MOTR wrote on Jul 4^th, 2012 at 9:06am:

Indonesia wants us to take responsibility for the asylum seekers. they don't want the boats towed back. Abbott knows this and Bishop has promised SBY it won't happen. Things have changed and it is very unlikely Nauru will work the way it did.

And when Abbott gets in, Indonesia will be the ones sdaying 'Australia wants us to take responsibility for our asylum seeker problem and times have changed'

Back to top

IP Logged

MOTR

Gold Member

Offline

Australian Politics

Posts: 6646

Re: Why not stop the boats, Tony?
Reply #185 - Jul 4^th, 2012 at 9:15am

progressiveslol wrote on Jul 4^th, 2012 at 9:11am:

MOTR wrote on Jul 4^th, 2012 at 9:06am:

Indonesia wants us to take responsibility for the asylum seekers. they don't want the boats towed back. Abbott knows this and Bishop has promised SBY it won't happen. Things have changed and it is very unlikely Nauru will work the way it did.

And when Abbott gets in, Indonesia will be the ones sdaying 'Australia wants us to take responsibility for our asylum seeker problem and times have changed'

Are you on drugs, progs? The message coming from the Indonesians is loud and clear. They will not accept the tow back of boats. How does Abbott control that? He might have you brainwashed into believing anything he says, but believe me it's not catchy.

Back to top

Hunt says Coalition accepts IPCC findings

"What does this mean? It means that we need to do practical things that actually reduce emissions."

IP Logged

progressiveslol

Gold Member

Offline

Australian Politics

Posts: 17029

Re: Why not stop the boats, Tony?
Reply #186 - Jul 4^th, 2012 at 9:16am

MOTR wrote on Jul 4^th, 2012 at 9:15am:

progressiveslol wrote on Jul 4^th, 2012 at 9:11am:

MOTR wrote on Jul 4^th, 2012 at 9:06am:

Indonesia wants us to take responsibility for the asylum seekers. they don't want the boats towed back. Abbott knows this and Bishop has promised SBY it won't happen. Things have changed and it is very unlikely Nauru will work the way it did.

And when Abbott gets in, Indonesia will be the ones sdaying 'Australia wants us to take responsibility for our asylum seeker problem and times have changed'

Are you on drugs, progs? The message coming from the Indonesians is loud and clear. They will not accept the tow back of boats. How does Abbott control that? He might have you brainwashed into believing anything he says, but believe me it's not catchy.

Australias message will be loud and clear too.

Back to top

IP Logged

MOTR Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6646	Re: Why not stop the boats, Tony? Reply #187 - Jul 4^th, 2012 at 9:20am You are in denial. Why does this not surprise me. Do you think we don't need Indonesia's cooperation on this one. If you want to push them into a corner it is very likely they will walk away from their current policy of regulating the flow of asylum seekers and just open the flood gates.
Back to top	« Last Edit: Jul 4^th, 2012 at 9:27am by MOTR » Hunt says Coalition accepts IPCC findings "What does this mean? It means that we need to do practical things that actually reduce emissions." IP Logged

progressiveslol

Gold Member

Offline

Australian Politics

Posts: 17029

Re: Why not stop the boats, Tony?
Reply #188 - Jul 4^th, 2012 at 9:27am

MOTR wrote on Jul 4^th, 2012 at 9:20am:

You are in denial. Why does this not surprise me.

Do you think we don't need Indonesia's cooperation on this one. If you want to push them into a corner it is very likely they will walk away from their current policy of regulating the flow of asylum seekers and just open the flood gates.

Because you are in denial Grin

Back to top

IP Logged

John Smith

Gold Member

Offline

Australian Politics

Posts: 74836
Gender: male

Re: Why not stop the boats, Tony?
Reply #189 - Jul 4^th, 2012 at 9:44am

progressiveslol wrote on Jul 4^th, 2012 at 9:27am:

MOTR wrote on Jul 4^th, 2012 at 9:20am:

You are in denial. Why does this not surprise me.

Do you think we don't need Indonesia's cooperation on this one. If you want to push them into a corner it is very likely they will walk away from their current policy of regulating the flow of asylum seekers and just open the flood gates.

Because you are in denial Grin

speaking of denial ... bugger your an idiot ... what do you plan on doing? Invading Indonesian territory to force them to take the refugees back? once they are in our waters or in our care, we are stuck with them .

Back to top

Our esteemed leader:
I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.

IP Logged

progressiveslol

Gold Member

Offline

Australian Politics

Posts: 17029

Re: Why not stop the boats, Tony?
Reply #190 - Jul 4^th, 2012 at 9:49am

John Smith wrote on Jul 4^th, 2012 at 9:44am:

progressiveslol wrote on Jul 4^th, 2012 at 9:27am:

MOTR wrote on Jul 4^th, 2012 at 9:20am:

You are in denial. Why does this not surprise me.

Do you think we don't need Indonesia's cooperation on this one. If you want to push them into a corner it is very likely they will walk away from their current policy of regulating the flow of asylum seekers and just open the flood gates.

Because you are in denial Grin

speaking of denial ... bugger your an idiot ... what do you plan on doing? Invading Indonesian territory to force them to take the refugees back? once they are in our waters or in our care, we are stuck with them .

That might be part of your answer.

Back to top

IP Logged

Dnarever

Gold Member

Offline

Australian Politics

Posts: 58817
Here
Gender: male

Re: Why not stop the boats, Tony?
Reply #191 - Jul 4^th, 2012 at 9:53am

progressiveslol wrote on Jul 4^th, 2012 at 9:49am:

John Smith wrote on Jul 4^th, 2012 at 9:44am:

progressiveslol wrote on Jul 4^th, 2012 at 9:27am:

MOTR wrote on Jul 4^th, 2012 at 9:20am:

You are in denial. Why does this not surprise me.

Do you think we don't need Indonesia's cooperation on this one. If you want to push them into a corner it is very likely they will walk away from their current policy of regulating the flow of asylum seekers and just open the flood gates.

Because you are in denial Grin

speaking of denial ... bugger your an idiot ... what do you plan on doing? Invading Indonesian territory to force them to take the refugees back? once they are in our waters or in our care, we are stuck with them .

That might be part of your answer.

once they are in our waters

The name for interfering with them in international waters is piracy.

Back to top

IP Logged

John Smith

Gold Member

Offline

Australian Politics

Posts: 74836
Gender: male

Re: Why not stop the boats, Tony?
Reply #192 - Jul 4^th, 2012 at 9:53am

progressiveslol wrote on Jul 4^th, 2012 at 9:49am:

John Smith wrote on Jul 4^th, 2012 at 9:44am:

progressiveslol wrote on Jul 4^th, 2012 at 9:27am:

MOTR wrote on Jul 4^th, 2012 at 9:20am:

You are in denial. Why does this not surprise me.

Do you think we don't need Indonesia's cooperation on this one. If you want to push them into a corner it is very likely they will walk away from their current policy of regulating the flow of asylum seekers and just open the flood gates.

Because you are in denial Grin

speaking of denial ... bugger your an idiot ... what do you plan on doing? Invading Indonesian territory to force them to take the refugees back? once they are in our waters or in our care, we are stuck with them .

That might be part of your answer.

wow ... you think our navy is suddenly going to come up with hundreds of new boats to form a picket along our territorial waters to prevent the boats entering our territory?
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
hahahahahahahahahahahaha

if we can't stop them entering our waters now what makes you think that will change?

Back to top

Our esteemed leader:
I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.

IP Logged

progressiveslol

Gold Member

Offline

Australian Politics

Posts: 17029

Re: Why not stop the boats, Tony?
Reply #193 - Jul 4^th, 2012 at 10:07am

John Smith wrote on Jul 4^th, 2012 at 9:53am:

progressiveslol wrote on Jul 4^th, 2012 at 9:49am:

John Smith wrote on Jul 4^th, 2012 at 9:44am:

progressiveslol wrote on Jul 4^th, 2012 at 9:27am:

MOTR wrote on Jul 4^th, 2012 at 9:20am:

You are in denial. Why does this not surprise me.

Do you think we don't need Indonesia's cooperation on this one. If you want to push them into a corner it is very likely they will walk away from their current policy of regulating the flow of asylum seekers and just open the flood gates.

Because you are in denial Grin

speaking of denial ... bugger your an idiot ... what do you plan on doing? Invading Indonesian territory to force them to take the refugees back? once they are in our waters or in our care, we are stuck with them .

That might be part of your answer.

wow ... you think our navy is suddenly going to come up with hundreds of new boats to form a picket along our territorial waters to prevent the boats entering our territory?
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
hahahahahahahahahahahaha

if we can't stop them entering our waters now what makes you think that will change?

Cant or want. They currently run the greens and labor gauntlet now and are dieing. Maybe that gauntlet needs to change.

Back to top

IP Logged

MOTR Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6646	Re: Why not stop the boats, Tony? Reply #194 - Jul 4^th, 2012 at 11:36am Run what gauntlet. Where are we going to tow them back to. Or are you suggesting we sink a few.
Back to top	Hunt says Coalition accepts IPCC findings "What does this mean? It means that we need to do practical things that actually reduce emissions." IP Logged

Poll
Question: Why has Abbott voted against stopping the boats.
Concern for asylum seekers 2 (8.3%) Political advantage 18 (75.0%) Other 4 (16.7%) Total votes: 24 « Created by: MOTR on: Jun 29^th, 2012 at 3:23am »