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Question: Why has Abbott voted against stopping the boats.

Concern for asylum seekers    
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Political advantage    
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Other    
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Total votes: 24
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Re: Why not stop the boats, Tony?
Reply #255 - Jul 6th, 2012 at 11:29am
 
Gist wrote on Jul 6th, 2012 at 11:22am:
progressiveslol wrote on Jul 6th, 2012 at 11:15am:
Gist wrote on Jul 6th, 2012 at 11:07am:
progressiveslol wrote on Jul 6th, 2012 at 9:48am:
MOTR wrote on Jul 6th, 2012 at 5:31am:
To quantify this debate, what number of arrivals per year would be considered a fail?

The least amount possible in order for their to be the least amount of sinking. The least for it not to be an expensive NRMA exercise.

10 - 20 a year would cover it.


People?
Boats?
Turnips?
Calathumpian babelfish?

God dam boy you are daft.

This thread is about boats. Got it. Someone smack im over the back of the head.


Just wanted to be clear because you don't seem to know what you're counting half the time.

So you have no problem with 5 or 10 ships carrying say 1,000 asylum seekers each? I thought the Lolly Asylum Seeker Strategy was limited to one ship but obviously you have gone beyond that now.

More of your BS

You tried to represent boat arrival numbers for the pacific solution as the people count, then conveniently used the actual boat arrival numbers of the non-pacific soltuion. you are obviously dumb, but am pretty sure you are dishonest as well.

I would be happy to go between the pacific solution average persons per boat of 29 or the labors non-pacific solution of average 46 persons per boat.
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Re: Why not stop the boats, Tony?
Reply #256 - Jul 6th, 2012 at 11:46am
 
progressiveslol wrote on Jul 6th, 2012 at 11:29am:
Gist wrote on Jul 6th, 2012 at 11:22am:
progressiveslol wrote on Jul 6th, 2012 at 11:15am:
Gist wrote on Jul 6th, 2012 at 11:07am:
progressiveslol wrote on Jul 6th, 2012 at 9:48am:
[quote author=4A485355070 link=1340904189/248#248 date=1341516699]To quantify this debate, what number of arrivals per year would be considered a fail?

The least amount possible in order for their to be the least amount of sinking. The least for it not to be an expensive NRMA exercise.

10 - 20 a year would cover it.


People?
Boats?
Turnips?
Calathumpian babelfish?

God dam boy you are daft.

This thread is about boats. Got it. Someone smack im over the back of the head.


Just wanted to be clear because you don't seem to know what you're counting half the time.

So you have no problem with 5 or 10 ships carrying say 1,000 asylum seekers each? I thought the Lolly Asylum Seeker Strategy was limited to one ship but obviously you have gone beyond that now.

More of your BS

You tried to represent boat arrival numbers for the pacific solution as the people count, then conveniently used the actual boat arrival numbers of the non-pacific soltuion. you are obviously dumb, but am pretty sure you are dishonest as well.
I would be happy to go between the pacific solution average persons per boat of 29 or the labors non-pacific solution of average 46 persons per boat.[/quot




I think we should start looking at the number of deaths to be honest... I think this far out weighs  how many come by boat and how many come by plane.. DEATH is FINAL.

if you were on yahoo you will remember the lampooning we got when rudd first6 ended the pacific solution..
the sky is falling the sky is falling"  look NO BOATS>.and there were no boats... it took a while for the people smugglers to get organised..

now all of a sudden some think what we are getting isnt really a problem.. LOL.. its all the libs fault of course for not agreeing with Labor.... as if!!!!!

it most definitely isnt Labors fault for moving the goal posts and allowing the people smugglers back in business.. look how sophisticated they have now got?? they know how to contact our navy..with more lies...what a hoot..
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Re: Why not stop the boats, Tony?
Reply #257 - Jul 6th, 2012 at 11:50am
 
cods wrote on Jul 6th, 2012 at 11:46am:
progressiveslol wrote on Jul 6th, 2012 at 11:29am:
Gist wrote on Jul 6th, 2012 at 11:22am:
progressiveslol wrote on Jul 6th, 2012 at 11:15am:
Gist wrote on Jul 6th, 2012 at 11:07am:
progressiveslol wrote on Jul 6th, 2012 at 9:48am:
MOTR wrote on Jul 6th, 2012 at 5:31am:
To quantify this debate, what number of arrivals per year would be considered a fail?

The least amount possible in order for their to be the least amount of sinking. The least for it not to be an expensive NRMA exercise.

10 - 20 a year would cover it.


People?
Boats?
Turnips?
Calathumpian babelfish?

God dam boy you are daft.

This thread is about boats. Got it. Someone smack im over the back of the head.


Just wanted to be clear because you don't seem to know what you're counting half the time.

So you have no problem with 5 or 10 ships carrying say 1,000 asylum seekers each? I thought the Lolly Asylum Seeker Strategy was limited to one ship but obviously you have gone beyond that now.



More of your BS

You tried to represent boat arrival numbers for the pacific solution as the people count, then conveniently used the actual boat arrival numbers of the non-pacific soltuion. you are obviously dumb, but am pretty sure you are dishonest as well.
I would be happy to go between the pacific solution average persons per boat of 29 or the labors non-pacific solution of average 46 persons per boat.





I think we should start looking at the number of deaths to be honest... I think this far out weighs  how many come by boat and how many come by plane.. DEATH is FINAL.

if you were on yahoo you will remember the lampooning we got when rudd first6 ended the pacific solution..
the sky is falling the sky is falling"  look NO BOATS>.and there were no boats... it took a while for the people smugglers to get organised..

now all of a sudden some think what we are getting isnt really a problem.. LOL.. its all the libs fault of course for not agreeing with Labor.... as if!!!!!

it most definitely isnt Labors fault for moving the goal posts and allowing the people smugglers back in business.. look how sophisticated they have now got?? they know how to contact our navy..with more lies...what a hoot..

No I wasn't around for the yahoo days.

Isnt it typical of labor to stop a policy that is working, because it was liberal policy and have nothing to replace it.

You would think, well actually know, that if you are going to stop something that is working, you have something to replace it before you stop the old policy.

A bit like you find another job before you quit your current job.

Labor = policy on the run
Labor = failures
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Re: Why not stop the boats, Tony?
Reply #258 - Jul 6th, 2012 at 12:00pm
 
This is a contemptible Government that refuses to defend Australia and its borders from alien invasion. Tongue
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Re: Why not stop the boats, Tony?
Reply #259 - Jul 6th, 2012 at 12:20pm
 
progressiveslol wrote on Jul 6th, 2012 at 11:29am:
Gist wrote on Jul 6th, 2012 at 11:22am:
progressiveslol wrote on Jul 6th, 2012 at 11:15am:
Gist wrote on Jul 6th, 2012 at 11:07am:
progressiveslol wrote on Jul 6th, 2012 at 9:48am:
MOTR wrote on Jul 6th, 2012 at 5:31am:
To quantify this debate, what number of arrivals per year would be considered a fail?

The least amount possible in order for their to be the least amount of sinking. The least for it not to be an expensive NRMA exercise.

10 - 20 a year would cover it.


People?
Boats?
Turnips?
Calathumpian babelfish?

God dam boy you are daft.

This thread is about boats. Got it. Someone smack im over the back of the head.


Just wanted to be clear because you don't seem to know what you're counting half the time.

So you have no problem with 5 or 10 ships carrying say 1,000 asylum seekers each? I thought the Lolly Asylum Seeker Strategy was limited to one ship but obviously you have gone beyond that now.

More of your BS

You tried to represent boat arrival numbers for the pacific solution as the people count, then conveniently used the actual boat arrival numbers of the non-pacific soltuion. you are obviously dumb, but am pretty sure you are dishonest as well.

I would be happy to go between the pacific solution average persons per boat of 29 or the labors non-pacific solution of average 46 persons per boat.


And immediately, when it's pointed out to you AGAIN what a dipsh!t you are, you start blabbing about people per boat. Being a brainless dick, any time now you'll forget everything that's been said and start blabbing about boats I'm sure.

Face it lolly, you're a born liar, constantly ignoring anything that's said that you don't want to hear or that doesn't suit your argument. You can't decide whether you want to count boats, people, people per boat, deaths, turnips or something else. When challenged about boat numbers you immediately lie and say no, you were talking about people. Or turnips.

What a joke you are. Get used to being challenged on a regular basis!
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Re: Why not stop the boats, Tony?
Reply #260 - Jul 6th, 2012 at 12:58pm
 
Gist wrote on Jul 6th, 2012 at 12:20pm:
progressiveslol wrote on Jul 6th, 2012 at 11:29am:
Gist wrote on Jul 6th, 2012 at 11:22am:
progressiveslol wrote on Jul 6th, 2012 at 11:15am:
Gist wrote on Jul 6th, 2012 at 11:07am:
progressiveslol wrote on Jul 6th, 2012 at 9:48am:
MOTR wrote on Jul 6th, 2012 at 5:31am:
To quantify this debate, what number of arrivals per year would be considered a fail?

The least amount possible in order for their to be the least amount of sinking. The least for it not to be an expensive NRMA exercise.

10 - 20 a year would cover it.


People?
Boats?
Turnips?
Calathumpian babelfish?

God dam boy you are daft.

This thread is about boats. Got it. Someone smack im over the back of the head.


Just wanted to be clear because you don't seem to know what you're counting half the time.

So you have no problem with 5 or 10 ships carrying say 1,000 asylum seekers each? I thought the Lolly Asylum Seeker Strategy was limited to one ship but obviously you have gone beyond that now.

More of your BS

You tried to represent boat arrival numbers for the pacific solution as the people count, then conveniently used the actual boat arrival numbers of the non-pacific soltuion. you are obviously dumb, but am pretty sure you are dishonest as well.

I would be happy to go between the pacific solution average persons per boat of 29 or the labors non-pacific solution of average 46 persons per boat.


And immediately, when it's pointed out to you AGAIN what a dipsh!t you are, you start blabbing about people per boat. Being a brainless dick, any time now you'll forget everything that's been said and start blabbing about boats I'm sure.

Face it lolly, you're a born liar, constantly ignoring anything that's said that you don't want to hear or that doesn't suit your argument. You can't decide whether you want to count boats, people, people per boat, deaths, turnips or something else. When challenged about boat numbers you immediately lie and say no, you were talking about people. Or turnips.

What a joke you are. Get used to being challenged on a regular basis!

You are challenged. Roll Eyes
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Reply #261 - Jul 6th, 2012 at 7:10pm
 
progressiveslol wrote on Jul 6th, 2012 at 9:48am:
MOTR wrote on Jul 6th, 2012 at 5:31am:
To quantify this debate, what number of arrivals per year would be considered a fail?

The least amount possible in order for their to be the least amount of sinking. The least for it not to be an expensive NRMA exercise.

10 - 20 a year would cover it.


Why is it that the Libs are refusing to budge unless Labor endorse the failed policy of TPVs.
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Reply #262 - Jul 6th, 2012 at 7:22pm
 
Its just as well that we live in a country that has a strong economy, low unemployment, a high standard of living, a good health and education system and that is the envy of the western world. So much so that the only thing we have to bitch about is a few asylum seekers coming here by boat and who's harassing who in federal parliament.
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Reply #263 - Jul 6th, 2012 at 7:24pm
 
adelcrow wrote on Jul 6th, 2012 at 7:22pm:
Its just as well that we live in a country that has a strong economy, low unemployment, a high standard of living, a good health and education system and that is the envy of the western world. So much so that the only thing we have to bitch about is a few asylum seekers coming here by boat and who's harassing who in federal parliament.


And whether the carbon tax gets removed in 2014 or 2015
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Reply #264 - Jul 6th, 2012 at 7:26pm
 
MOTR wrote on Jul 6th, 2012 at 7:24pm:
adelcrow wrote on Jul 6th, 2012 at 7:22pm:
Its just as well that we live in a country that has a strong economy, low unemployment, a high standard of living, a good health and education system and that is the envy of the western world. So much so that the only thing we have to bitch about is a few asylum seekers coming here by boat and who's harassing who in federal parliament.


And whether the carbon tax gets removed in 2014 or 2015


Big business says we will always have a price on carbon now one has been introduced and are tailoring their investments with that in mind so we can safely say carbon pricing in one form or another is here to stay.
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Reply #265 - Jul 6th, 2012 at 7:29pm
 
why do the libs refuse to even join the talks to try and come up with a solution? isn't that political grandstanding to the upteenth degree .....? playing politics with peoples lives ... Abbott should be jailed .
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Reply #266 - Jul 6th, 2012 at 7:31pm
 
John Smith wrote on Jul 6th, 2012 at 7:29pm:
why do the libs refuse to even join the talks to try and come up with a solution? isn't that political grandstanding to the upteenth degree .....? playing politics with peoples lives ... Abbott should be jailed .


The jails are full of people that have got in Abbotts way over the years so there may be a welcoming party of ex rivals waiting for him
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Reply #267 - Jul 6th, 2012 at 7:39pm
 
The Libs sticking point is TPVs, which according to progs' criteria is a failed policy because we had well over 8000 boat arrivals while it was in place. So Abbott is holding the parliament to ransom over a failed policy.
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Reply #268 - Jul 6th, 2012 at 7:42pm
 
MOTR wrote on Jul 6th, 2012 at 7:39pm:
The Libs sticking point is TPVs, which according to progs' criteria is a failed policy because we had well over 8000 boat arrivals while it was in place. So Abbott is holding the parliament to ransom over a failed policy.


abbott should be jailed for crimes against humanity ... imagine his poor wife having to wake up next to him every day ... i say a life sentence
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Reply #269 - Jul 6th, 2012 at 7:43pm
 
MOTR wrote on Jul 6th, 2012 at 7:39pm:
The Libs sticking point is TPVs, which according to progs' criteria is a failed policy because we had well over 8000 boat arrivals while it was in place. So Abbott is holding the parliament to ransom over a failed policy.


You'd best ask lolly if that's 8,000 boats or 8,000 people on boats.
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