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Re: Why not stop the boats, Tony?
Reply #270 - Jul 6^th, 2012 at 7:58pm

Gist wrote on Jul 6^th, 2012 at 7:43pm:

MOTR wrote on Jul 6^th, 2012 at 7:39pm:

The Libs sticking point is TPVs, which according to progs' criteria is a failed policy because we had well over 8000 boat arrivals while it was in place. So Abbott is holding the parliament to ransom over a failed policy.

You'd best ask lolly if that's 8,000 boats or 8,000 people on boats.

Well it really needs to be clarified or we could do what gist does and represent people numbers as boats, under the pacific solution and boats numbers as boat numbers for the labor non-pacific solution. That makes it a little even.

There was not 8000 boat people arrivals under the pacific solution as a package.

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Avram Horowitz Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3153 Australia Gender:	Re: Why not stop the boats, Tony? Reply #271 - Jul 6^th, 2012 at 8:19pm Good afternoon my Aussie cobbers. I see you have not settled this argument on the boatpeople! Will you ever agree that you have a problem or just keep in circles??? haha anyways, here is for my MOTR friend a picture for you. No boatpeople here!
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Re: Why not stop the boats, Tony?
Reply #272 - Jul 6^th, 2012 at 8:20pm

Avram Horowitz wrote on Jul 6^th, 2012 at 8:19pm:

Good afternoon my Aussie cobbers.

I see you have not settled this argument on the boatpeople! Grin

Will you ever agree that you have a problem or just keep in circles???

haha anyways, here is for my MOTR friend a picture for you. No boatpeople here!

are you back again? hasn't anyone shot you yet? go away ....

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Re: Why not stop the boats, Tony?
Reply #273 - Jul 6^th, 2012 at 8:27pm

John Smith wrote on Jul 6^th, 2012 at 8:20pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Jul 6^th, 2012 at 8:19pm:

Good afternoon my Aussie cobbers.

I see you have not settled this argument on the boatpeople! Grin

Will you ever agree that you have a problem or just keep in circles???

haha anyways, here is for my MOTR friend a picture for you. No boatpeople here!

are you back again? hasn't anyone shot you yet? go away ....

WTF is that. Are you inciting people to do what you suggest the outcome for this person. I hope the mods punish you and maybe even the authorities.

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Re: Why not stop the boats, Tony?
Reply #274 - Jul 6^th, 2012 at 9:01pm

progressiveslol wrote on Jul 6^th, 2012 at 7:58pm:

Well it really needs to be clarified or we could do what gist does and represent people numbers as boats, under the pacific solution and boats numbers as boat numbers for the labor non-pacific solution. That makes it a little even.

So completely unable to debate the facts and figures you resort to making up random bullsh!t about me. No surprises there either. Is there no end to your stupid lolly?

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Re: Why not stop the boats, Tony?
Reply #275 - Jul 6^th, 2012 at 9:14pm

Gist wrote on Jul 6^th, 2012 at 9:01pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Jul 6^th, 2012 at 7:58pm:

Well it really needs to be clarified or we could do what gist does and represent people numbers as boats, under the pacific solution and boats numbers as boat numbers for the labor non-pacific solution. That makes it a little even.

So completely unable to debate the facts and figures you resort to making up random bullsh!t about me. No surprises there either. Is there no end to your stupid lolly?

Not random. I purposely picked that information out about you from our discussions.

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Reply #276 - Jul 6^th, 2012 at 10:04pm

Its not 2007, we have page after page on what happened almost 6 years ago.

Looking at the poll everyone agrees that Abbnott is only in the way for political gain which is very obvious, the rest is window dressing.

Irrespective of 2007 when looking at today it is Tnoy who is ensuring that the boats keep on comming and it is no accident. The Abbnott preference is to keep them arriving right up to the next election.

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Re: Why not stop the boats, Tony?
Reply #277 - Jul 6^th, 2012 at 10:06pm

Dnarever wrote on Jul 6^th, 2012 at 10:04pm:

Its not 2007, we have page after page on what happened almost 6 years ago.

Looking at the poll everyone agrees that Abbnott is only in the way for political gain which is very obvious, the rest is window dressing.

Irrespective of 2007 when looking at today it is Tnoy who is ensuring that the boats keep on comming and it is no accident. The Abbnott preference is to keep them arriving right up to the next election.

It is up to the labor/greens coalition to stop the boats. If the labor/greens coalition cannot decide what it wants to do, then their policy fails.

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Reply #278 - Jul 6^th, 2012 at 10:13pm

Dnarever wrote on Jul 6^th, 2012 at 10:04pm:

Its not 2007, we have page after page on what happened almost 6 years ago.

Looking at the poll everyone agrees that Abbnott is only in the way for political gain which is very obvious, the rest is window dressing.

Irrespective of 2007 when looking at today it is Tnoy who is ensuring that the boats keep on comming and it is no accident. The Abbnott preference is to keep them arriving right up to the next election.

And you totally forget the role of Labors bunk buddies, the Greens eh who also oppose Labors short term fix to a major problem of their own making.
Abbotts preference is that Labor remain inept, incompetent and grossly ineffective so that after the next election, Labor will remain in Opposition for a decade or three.

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Re: Why not stop the boats, Tony?
Reply #279 - Jul 7^th, 2012 at 7:23am

Avram Horowitz wrote on Jul 6^th, 2012 at 8:19pm:

Good afternoon my Aussie cobbers.

I see you have not settled this argument on the boatpeople! Grin

Will you ever agree that you have a problem or just keep in circles???

haha anyways, here is for my MOTR friend a picture for you. No boatpeople here!

That looks like abbey road

SOB

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Re: Why not stop the boats, Tony?
Reply #281 - Jul 7^th, 2012 at 9:01am

Avram Horowitz wrote on Jul 6^th, 2012 at 8:19pm:

Good afternoon my Aussie cobbers.

I see you have not settled this argument on the boatpeople! Grin

Will you ever agree that you have a problem or just keep in circles???

haha anyways, here is for my MOTR friend a picture for you. No boatpeople here!

Israel is much closer to Iraq and Afghanistan..they should all go there Grin

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Reply #282 - Jul 7^th, 2012 at 10:25am

progressiveslol wrote on Jul 6^th, 2012 at 10:06pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jul 6^th, 2012 at 10:04pm:

Its not 2007, we have page after page on what happened almost 6 years ago.

Looking at the poll everyone agrees that Abbnott is only in the way for political gain which is very obvious, the rest is window dressing.

Irrespective of 2007 when looking at today it is Tnoy who is ensuring that the boats keep on comming and it is no accident. The Abbnott preference is to keep them arriving right up to the next election.

It is up to the labor/greens coalition to stop the boats. If the labor/greens coalition cannot decide what it wants to do, then their policy fails.

There is no coalition between the Greens and Labor

just an agreement to support Labor on money bills and to no support no confidence motions which they do not raise themself. They are free to follow their own policies on all matters.

In other words your position is significantly flawed in fact.

The greens quite rightly do not support off shore processing, Labor want to go back to it as the lesser of two evils and the coalition absolutely love it to pieces.

Tnoy is opposing his own preferred solution for political gain.

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Re: Why not stop the boats, Tony?
Reply #283 - Jul 7^th, 2012 at 10:28am

Dnarever wrote on Jul 7^th, 2012 at 10:25am:

progressiveslol wrote on Jul 6^th, 2012 at 10:06pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jul 6^th, 2012 at 10:04pm:

Its not 2007, we have page after page on what happened almost 6 years ago.

Looking at the poll everyone agrees that Abbnott is only in the way for political gain which is very obvious, the rest is window dressing.

Irrespective of 2007 when looking at today it is Tnoy who is ensuring that the boats keep on comming and it is no accident. The Abbnott preference is to keep them arriving right up to the next election.

It is up to the labor/greens coalition to stop the boats. If the labor/greens coalition cannot decide what it wants to do, then their policy fails.

There is no coalition between the Greens and Labor

just an agreement to support Labor on money bills and to no support no confidence motions which they do not raise themself. They are free to follow their own policies on all matters.

In other words your position is significantly flawed in fact.

The greens quite rightly do not support off shore processing, Labor want to go back to it as the lesser of two evils and the coalition absolutely love it to pieces.

Tnoy is opposing his own preferred solution for political gain.

It is an alliance. An alliance is a coalition. There is a coalition between labor and the greens. The greens have lumped themselves with whatever labor do. Labor have lumped themselves with whatever the greens try to do or force labor to do.

A poor choice of coalition, is a coalition none the less.

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Re: Why not stop the boats, Tony?
Reply #284 - Jul 7^th, 2012 at 10:36am

That is not true, it is a perception cultivated in the media for a political advantage. We've heard all the propaganda, progs. The reality is that the greens are not a coalition party and are quite clearly prepared to vote against the government on matters of principle. The greens only have power when one of the major parties vote with them. In this case Abbott has voted with them to keep our borders open.

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