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Question: Why has Abbott voted against stopping the boats.

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Why not stop the boats, Tony? (Read 22320 times)
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Re: Why not stop the boats, Tony?
Reply #330 - Jul 8th, 2012 at 10:00am
 
I don't know whether you deliberately try and play dumb or you are actually dumb.

Australia showed no favoritism - it actually deliberately obstructed post-war migration into Australia from Jews - it favored others in front of Jews.

Anti-Jewish comments were made in speeches in the Australian parliament.

Some of your "knowledge" on the question of Jews and Israel has been appalling at best anyways so I am not surprised if you didn't know this.
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Re: Why not stop the boats, Tony?
Reply #331 - Jul 8th, 2012 at 10:05am
 
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jul 8th, 2012 at 10:00am:
I don't know whether you deliberately try and play dumb or you are actually dumb.

Australia showed no favoritism - it actually deliberately obstructed post-war migration into Australia from Jews - it favored others in front of Jews.

Anti-Jewish comments were made in speeches in the Australian parliament.

Some of your "knowledge" on the question of Jews and Israel has been appalling at best anyways so I am not surprised if you didn't know this.


So... you're jewish then Andrei? Interesting.
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Re: Why not stop the boats, Tony?
Reply #332 - Jul 8th, 2012 at 10:08am
 
Anti-Jewish refugee hysteria was manifested in cartoons such as this one from the Bulletin published in December 1946.

It showed Calwell as the ‘Pied Piper’ playing his flute to entice in the ratlike stereotypical Jew — fat, bearded, hooked nose and foreign — as the ‘imports’, whilst the local people, the white Australians, were being forced out as ‘exports’.

Extreme feelings were also expressed in daubing and damage to property, particularly in areas of Jewish concentrations in Melbourne and Sydney.

The Jewish refugees were also attacked for disadvantaging ex-servicemen in finding employment and for introducing sweatshops. A letter in Rydge’s Journal claimed:
Of course the Jews use methods that we don’t: if they can get plant and labour — and usually they can — they’ll crowd a workroom with machines and employees. They’ll even work in a house or flat, and thus eliminate factory rent. Often their compatriot employees will work long hours for less than award wages and conditions which are deplorable, according to our standards, but not at all out of the way according to their standards.

These accusations in the post-war period mirrored complaints made in 1938 and 1939. Although Jews were not always specifically mentioned the term refugee tended to be synonymous with Jews, as the majority of the pre-war refugees were Jewish.

Another concern was that, on arrival, Jewish immigrants would take over accommodation at a time of an acute housing shortage so that Australian exservicemen would be disadvantaged. A letter published in the Sydney Morning Herald in 1948 stated:
First, Jews are intensely competing for and getting houses Australians would normally occupy. Many of our people have been evicted and are in great distress but no known refugee lives at Herne Bay or under canvas. Men who enlisted, leaving homes and shops, returned to find them occupied by refugees Jews....

The letter also claimed that Jews were prepared to pay huge ‘key money’ bribes and that refugees who had built or bought blocks of flats often demanded exorbitant rents. The fact that the Jewish refugees tended to cluster together in certain areas, such as Kings Cross and Bondi in Sydney, and Carlton in Melbourne, was also resented by Anglo-Australians.

Credit : Suzanne Rutland

Postwar Anti-Jewish Refugee Hysteria: A Case of Racial or Religious Bigotry?
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Re: Why not stop the boats, Tony?
Reply #333 - Jul 8th, 2012 at 10:10am
 
Gist wrote on Jul 8th, 2012 at 10:05am:
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jul 8th, 2012 at 10:00am:
I don't know whether you deliberately try and play dumb or you are actually dumb.

Australia showed no favoritism - it actually deliberately obstructed post-war migration into Australia from Jews - it favored others in front of Jews.

Anti-Jewish comments were made in speeches in the Australian parliament.

Some of your "knowledge" on the question of Jews and Israel has been appalling at best anyways so I am not surprised if you didn't know this.


So... you're jewish then Andrei? Interesting.


I would suggest, given your country's deplorable record on
a) The holocaust
b) Nazism and Fascism
c) Being an outright bunch of oily haired cowards

You are best off just keeping your head down on this one.
Italians still need to make about another 60 years worth of apologies.
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Reply #334 - Jul 8th, 2012 at 10:11am
 
Sounds like they were boat people. Bastards were paying mega bucks to get into this country ILLEGALLY! They should have STOPPED THE BOATS!!

Feckin' reffos. They were probably terrorists, each an' every one of 'em.
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Reply #335 - Jul 8th, 2012 at 10:12am
 
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Re: Why not stop the boats, Tony?
Reply #336 - Jul 8th, 2012 at 10:13am
 
Gist wrote on Jul 8th, 2012 at 10:05am:
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jul 8th, 2012 at 10:00am:
I don't know whether you deliberately try and play dumb or you are actually dumb.

Australia showed no favoritism - it actually deliberately obstructed post-war migration into Australia from Jews - it favored others in front of Jews.

Anti-Jewish comments were made in speeches in the Australian parliament.

Some of your "knowledge" on the question of Jews and Israel has been appalling at best anyways so I am not surprised if you didn't know this.


So... you're jewish then Andrei? Interesting.



Where do you make that assumption from what I said?
I have an in-depth knowledge on the subject of post war migration from university.
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Re: Why not stop the boats, Tony?
Reply #337 - Jul 8th, 2012 at 10:25am
 
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jul 8th, 2012 at 10:10am:
Gist wrote on Jul 8th, 2012 at 10:05am:
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jul 8th, 2012 at 10:00am:
I don't know whether you deliberately try and play dumb or you are actually dumb.

Australia showed no favoritism - it actually deliberately obstructed post-war migration into Australia from Jews - it favored others in front of Jews.

Anti-Jewish comments were made in speeches in the Australian parliament.

Some of your "knowledge" on the question of Jews and Israel has been appalling at best anyways so I am not surprised if you didn't know this.


So... you're jewish then Andrei? Interesting.


I would suggest, given your country's deplorable record on
a) The holocaust
b) Nazism and Fascism
c) Being an outright bunch of oily haired cowards

You are best off just keeping your head down on this one.
Italians still need to make about another 60 years worth of apologies.


Speaking of cowards, have you looked in the mirror? Or are you too frightened? Your country murders Palestinians on a daily basis and you point at Italy? By the way, for the record, I'm Australian... have been all my life.... so make as much fun of Italy as you like. If you think it'll bother me you're sadly mistaken. Of course being a sad little coward who spends his time trying to substantiate to himself that he's better than SOMEONE, you'd have to be pretty familiar with being a sad waste of space.

So, you're an arsehole and a coward all in one little sad little jewish package? No wonder every country you go to can't wait to get rid of you.

Oh... and of course we mustn't forget the usual adminition - bugger off Arsehole.  Cheesy Cheesy
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Reply #338 - Jul 8th, 2012 at 10:26am
 
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jul 8th, 2012 at 10:13am:
Gist wrote on Jul 8th, 2012 at 10:05am:
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jul 8th, 2012 at 10:00am:
I don't know whether you deliberately try and play dumb or you are actually dumb.

Australia showed no favoritism - it actually deliberately obstructed post-war migration into Australia from Jews - it favored others in front of Jews.

Anti-Jewish comments were made in speeches in the Australian parliament.

Some of your "knowledge" on the question of Jews and Israel has been appalling at best anyways so I am not surprised if you didn't know this.


So... you're jewish then Andrei? Interesting.



Where do you make that assumption from what I said?
I have an in-depth knowledge on the subject of post war migration from university.


Denial? How did I guess? How... cowardly....  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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Re: Why not stop the boats, Tony?
Reply #339 - Jul 8th, 2012 at 10:32am
 
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jul 8th, 2012 at 10:00am:
I don't know whether you deliberately try and play dumb or you are actually dumb.

Australia showed no favoritism - it actually deliberately obstructed post-war migration into Australia from Jews - it favored others in front of Jews.

Anti-Jewish comments were made in speeches in the Australian parliament.

Some of your "knowledge" on the question of Jews and Israel has been appalling at best anyways so I am not surprised if you didn't know this.


Well we shouldn't let terrorists into this country so its the right policy.

You did say they limited the number of jewish refugees,. We do that now with refugees. 13k we let in. We did let some in though so whats your problem?

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Reply #340 - Jul 8th, 2012 at 10:50am
 
Gist wrote on Jul 8th, 2012 at 10:26am:
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jul 8th, 2012 at 10:13am:
Gist wrote on Jul 8th, 2012 at 10:05am:
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jul 8th, 2012 at 10:00am:
I don't know whether you deliberately try and play dumb or you are actually dumb.

Australia showed no favoritism - it actually deliberately obstructed post-war migration into Australia from Jews - it favored others in front of Jews.

Anti-Jewish comments were made in speeches in the Australian parliament.

Some of your "knowledge" on the question of Jews and Israel has been appalling at best anyways so I am not surprised if you didn't know this.


So... you're jewish then Andrei? Interesting.



Where do you make that assumption from what I said?
I have an in-depth knowledge on the subject of post war migration from university.


Denial? How did I guess? How... cowardly....  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


I neither confirmed nor denied - because it has nothing to do with what I was saying.

My knowledge on post war migration comes from my education on the subject from spending a lot of time on it and writing a dissertation on it as well.
Not just Jewish post war migration (though they formed the large bulk) but your good folk and the Italian/Greek mass migration from their countries.

Whether I am Jewish or not is completely irrelevant so there was nothing to comment from that respect.

My education on the subject has nothing to do with my religion.
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Re: Why not stop the boats, Tony?
Reply #341 - Jul 8th, 2012 at 10:52am
 
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 8th, 2012 at 10:32am:
We did let some in though so whats your problem?

SOB



My problem is in the rampant anti-semitism that Australia displayed and that so many of you seem completely oblivious to it.

You see nothing wrong in that cartoon I showed - which appeared in national newspapers of the day.
The portrayal of Jews as crooked nosed, long bearded crooks is right out of the Fascist handbook of Germany and Italy.
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Reply #342 - Jul 8th, 2012 at 10:53am
 
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jul 8th, 2012 at 10:50am:
I neither confirmed nor denied - because it has nothing to do with what I was saying.

My knowledge on post war migration comes from my education on the subject from spending a lot of time on it and writing a dissertation on it as well.
Not just Jewish post war migration (though they formed the large bulk) but your good folk and the Italian/Greek mass migration from their countries.

Whether I am Jewish or not is completely irrelevant so there was nothing to comment from that respect.

My education on the subject has nothing to do with my religion.


Coward.
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Reply #343 - Jul 8th, 2012 at 10:57am
 
Try to stay relevant to the topics as opposed to just reverting to abuse - which I know make up 99% of your posts to everyone.
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Re: Why not stop the boats, Tony?
Reply #344 - Jul 8th, 2012 at 10:58am
 
Julia Gillard refuses to defend Australia's people and their borders. Cool
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