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Re: Why not stop the boats, Tony?
Reply #345 - Jul 8^th, 2012 at 11:00am

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jul 8^th, 2012 at 10:52am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 8^th, 2012 at 10:32am:

We did let some in though so whats your problem?

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My problem is in the rampant anti-semitism that Australia displayed and that so many of you seem completely oblivious to it.

You see nothing wrong in that cartoon I showed - which appeared in national newspapers of the day.
The portrayal of Jews as crooked nosed, long bearded crooks is right out of the Fascist handbook of Germany and Italy.

Because its the same crap that still goes on today with the boat ppl. Same crap different religion.

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Re: Why not stop the boats, Tony?
Reply #346 - Jul 8^th, 2012 at 11:01am

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 8^th, 2012 at 11:00am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jul 8^th, 2012 at 10:52am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 8^th, 2012 at 10:32am:

We did let some in though so whats your problem?

SOB

My problem is in the rampant anti-semitism that Australia displayed and that so many of you seem completely oblivious to it.

You see nothing wrong in that cartoon I showed - which appeared in national newspapers of the day.
The portrayal of Jews as crooked nosed, long bearded crooks is right out of the Fascist handbook of Germany and Italy.

Because its the same crap that still goes on today with the boat ppl. Same crap different religion.

SOB

You're saying you have no problem with cartoons stereotyping people in that way - either then or now?

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Re: Why not stop the boats, Tony?
Reply #347 - Jul 8^th, 2012 at 11:07am

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jul 8^th, 2012 at 11:01am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 8^th, 2012 at 11:00am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jul 8^th, 2012 at 10:52am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 8^th, 2012 at 10:32am:

We did let some in though so whats your problem?

SOB

My problem is in the rampant anti-semitism that Australia displayed and that so many of you seem completely oblivious to it.

You see nothing wrong in that cartoon I showed - which appeared in national newspapers of the day.
The portrayal of Jews as crooked nosed, long bearded crooks is right out of the Fascist handbook of Germany and Italy.

Because its the same crap that still goes on today with the boat ppl. Same crap different religion.

SOB

You're saying you have no problem with cartoons stereotyping people in that way - either then or now?

Andrei - you've never once complained about cartoons that show Gillard with a crooked nose or a fat posterior ... why is that? or are the Jews a protected species?

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Re: Why not stop the boats, Tony?
Reply #348 - Jul 8^th, 2012 at 11:11am

You'll find I have plenty of issues with Julia Gillard - ranging from her inability to tell the truth, to her poor policies for the middle class, to her socialist leanings - however I am yet to attack her on her physical appearance.

I would say that a cartoon on one person - be it her behind or Abbott's ears - is much less offensive than the wholesale characterisation of a group of people as foreign, meddling, crook-like rats such as this one of the Jews.

That characterisation of them was circulated by Hitler 1933 - 1945.

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Re: Why not stop the boats, Tony?
Reply #349 - Jul 8^th, 2012 at 11:12am

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jul 8^th, 2012 at 10:57am:

Try to stay relevant to the topics as opposed to just reverting to abuse - which I know make up 99% of your posts to everyone.

Ahem! I believe the interchange began with this post from you:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jul 8^th, 2012 at 10:10am:

I would suggest, given your country's deplorable record on
a) The holocaust
b) Nazism and Fascism
c) Being an outright bunch of oily haired cowards

You are best off just keeping your head down on this one.
Italians still need to make about another 60 years worth of apologies.

So you start a fight and then run away like the coward you are. Typical. What a sad little arsehole. Cheesy

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Gist Gold Member Offline I am not a sock, I am a human being! Posts: 5476	Re: Why not stop the boats, Tony? Reply #350 - Jul 8^th, 2012 at 11:13am John Smith wrote on Jul 8^th, 2012 at 11:07am: Andrei - you've never once complained about cartoons that show Gillard with a crooked nose or a fat posterior ... why is that? or are the Jews a protected species? No, it's just that he's jewish. Andrei is 100% hypocrite - and doesn't take criticism well.
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Re: Why not stop the boats, Tony?
Reply #351 - Jul 8^th, 2012 at 11:13am

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jul 8^th, 2012 at 11:01am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 8^th, 2012 at 11:00am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jul 8^th, 2012 at 10:52am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 8^th, 2012 at 10:32am:

We did let some in though so whats your problem?

SOB

My problem is in the rampant anti-semitism that Australia displayed and that so many of you seem completely oblivious to it.

You see nothing wrong in that cartoon I showed - which appeared in national newspapers of the day.
The portrayal of Jews as crooked nosed, long bearded crooks is right out of the Fascist handbook of Germany and Italy.

Because its the same crap that still goes on today with the boat ppl. Same crap different religion.

SOB

You're saying you have no problem with cartoons stereotyping people in that way - either then or now?

What does it matter? Then is a long time ago and they dont do that anymore (characterising the jews that is) but they still do it to the muslims dont they. Are you telling me you dont mind that they do it to muslims NOW?

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Re: Why not stop the boats, Tony?
Reply #352 - Jul 8^th, 2012 at 11:16am

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jul 8^th, 2012 at 11:11am:

You'll find I have plenty of issues with Julia Gillard - ranging from her inability to tell the truth, to her poor policies for the middle class, to her socialist leanings - however I am yet to attack her on her physical appearance.

I would say that a cartoon on one person - be it her behind or Abbott's ears - is much less offensive than the wholesale characterisation of a group of people as foreign, meddling, crook-like rats such as this one of the Jews.

That characterisation of them was circulated by Hitler 1933 - 1945.

yet you've nver once criticised a cartoon that shows Gillard with a long crooked nose .. the same thing your crying about with your other cartoon ....

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Re: Why not stop the boats, Tony?
Reply #354 - Jul 8^th, 2012 at 11:16am

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 8^th, 2012 at 11:13am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jul 8^th, 2012 at 11:01am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 8^th, 2012 at 11:00am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jul 8^th, 2012 at 10:52am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 8^th, 2012 at 10:32am:

We did let some in though so whats your problem?

SOB

My problem is in the rampant anti-semitism that Australia displayed and that so many of you seem completely oblivious to it.

You see nothing wrong in that cartoon I showed - which appeared in national newspapers of the day.
The portrayal of Jews as crooked nosed, long bearded crooks is right out of the Fascist handbook of Germany and Italy.

Because its the same crap that still goes on today with the boat ppl. Same crap different religion.

SOB

You're saying you have no problem with cartoons stereotyping people in that way - either then or now?

What does it matter? Then is a long time ago and they dont do that anymore (characterising the jews that is) but they still do it to the muslims dont they. Are you telling me you dont mind that they do it to muslims NOW?

SOB

I am asking you whether you think there is anything wrong with that cartoon in your mind?

Saying "it was a while ago now" is beyond idiotic.

The holocaust was 70 years ago, should we just forget it now?
You know its been a while and all that.....

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Re: Why not stop the boats, Tony?
Reply #355 - Jul 8^th, 2012 at 11:18am

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jul 8^th, 2012 at 10:10am:

Gist wrote on Jul 8^th, 2012 at 10:05am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jul 8^th, 2012 at 10:00am:

I don't know whether you deliberately try and play dumb or you are actually dumb.

Australia showed no favoritism - it actually deliberately obstructed post-war migration into Australia from Jews - it favored others in front of Jews.

Anti-Jewish comments were made in speeches in the Australian parliament.

Some of your "knowledge" on the question of Jews and Israel has been appalling at best anyways so I am not surprised if you didn't know this.

So... you're jewish then Andrei? Interesting.

I would suggest, given your country's deplorable record on
a) The holocaust
b) Nazism and Fascism
c) Being an outright bunch of oily haired cowards

You are best off just keeping your head down on this one.
Italians still need to make about another 60 years worth of apologies.

your hypocrisy is astonishing ... you complain about stereotyping Jews and then do the same in regards to Italians .. your not just an idiot your a ignorant hypocritical idiot ...

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Re: Why not stop the boats, Tony?
Reply #356 - Jul 8^th, 2012 at 11:19am

John Smith wrote on Jul 8^th, 2012 at 11:16am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jul 8^th, 2012 at 11:11am:

You'll find I have plenty of issues with Julia Gillard - ranging from her inability to tell the truth, to her poor policies for the middle class, to her socialist leanings - however I am yet to attack her on her physical appearance.

I would say that a cartoon on one person - be it her behind or Abbott's ears - is much less offensive than the wholesale characterisation of a group of people as foreign, meddling, crook-like rats such as this one of the Jews.

That characterisation of them was circulated by Hitler 1933 - 1945.

yet you've nver once criticised a cartoon that shows Gillard with a long crooked nose .. the same thing your crying about with your other cartoon ....

I have never criticised one which shows Abbott having abnormally big ears or Hockey as a big fat bloke.

I don't have too much of an issue with characterisations of personal politicians if it stays within boundaries - they sign up to the life they know whats coming.

However putting that in the same category as a cartoon showing Jews as rat like people, coming in to replace "white decent Australians" for jobs is ludicrous and you should know that.

The portrayal is right out of the abhorrent nations of Germany and Italy of that time.

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Andrei.Hicks Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 23818 Carlsbad, CA Gender:	Re: Why not stop the boats, Tony? Reply #357 - Jul 8^th, 2012 at 11:20am The comment on Italians as cowards and mummy's boys is not my own - its a common stereotype and not remotely the same. I am sure your offence has nothing to do with your heritage.
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Re: Why not stop the boats, Tony?
Reply #358 - Jul 8^th, 2012 at 11:22am

John Smith wrote on Jul 8^th, 2012 at 11:18am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jul 8^th, 2012 at 10:10am:

Gist wrote on Jul 8^th, 2012 at 10:05am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jul 8^th, 2012 at 10:00am:

I don't know whether you deliberately try and play dumb or you are actually dumb.

Australia showed no favoritism - it actually deliberately obstructed post-war migration into Australia from Jews - it favored others in front of Jews.

Anti-Jewish comments were made in speeches in the Australian parliament.

Some of your "knowledge" on the question of Jews and Israel has been appalling at best anyways so I am not surprised if you didn't know this.

So... you're jewish then Andrei? Interesting.

I would suggest, given your country's deplorable record on
a) The holocaust
b) Nazism and Fascism
c) Being an outright bunch of oily haired cowards

You are best off just keeping your head down on this one.
Italians still need to make about another 60 years worth of apologies.

your hypocrisy is astonishing ... you complain about stereotyping Jews and then do the same in regards to Italians .. your not just an idiot your a ignorant hypocritical idiot ...

...yep. As I said - 100% Hypocrite. He's like that dog in Bugs Bunny

70% English
95% Australian
22% Jewish
63% ...
...
and 100% Hypocrite!

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Re: Why not stop the boats, Tony?
Reply #359 - Jul 8^th, 2012 at 11:23am

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jul 8^th, 2012 at 11:20am:

The comment on Italians as cowards and mummy's boys is not my own - its a common stereotype and not remotely the same.

I am sure your offence has nothing to do with your heritage.

That comment was yours. Or are you saying you quoting someone else. Where's the link? Roll Eyes

Running away from your own words now. Coward.

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