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Jul 6th, 2012 at 2:47pm
 
I see ppl railing against "PC" all the time. Seems to me that the ppl that are so against it are rude buggers. They use being "anti-PC" as an excuse to call ppl nvggers and fatties and dole bludgers. To be judgemental bigots basically and to get away with being socially unacceptable. This leads me to think that all "PC" means is manners.

Any bugger that claims to be "against PC" and calls my sisters asylum seeker boyfriend an "illegal immigrant" or my poor dumb uncle that works for the council a "stupid retard" is prolly going to get bashed or ignored or reported depending on the circumstances. Sure its not PC to call a person who is obese "fatty" but should you do it? You dont know if they are that way because of a glandular thing. Its none of your business anyway.

A bit of history of political correctness

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n the late ’70s, “politically correct,” “PC” for short, entered the public lexicon. Folks on the left used the term to dismiss views that were seen as too rigid and, also, to poke fun at themselves for the immense care they took to neither say nor do anything that might offend the political sensibilities of others. “You are so PC,” one would say with a smile. In the ’80s, the right, taking the words at face value, latched on to the term and used it to deride leftish voices. Beleaguered progressives, ever earnest, then defended political correctness as a worthy concept, thus validating conservatives’ derision. Today, on both the left and the right, being PC is no laughing matter; three decades of culture wars have generated a bewildering thicket of terminology.

To help me parse what’s PC and what’s not, I had help from people attuned to the nuances of words, particularly those that describe race, ethnicity and sexual identity. Rinku Sen is a 40-year-old South Asian woman. She is the publisher of Colorlines, a national magazine of race and politics, for which she has developed a PC style manual. Tracy Baim is a 44-year-old white lesbian. She grapples with the ever-evolving nomenclature of sexual identity and politics as the executive editor of Windy City Times, a Chicago-based gay weekly. Lott Hill is a 36-year-old white gay male who works at Center for Teaching Excellence at Columbia College in Chicago. He interacts with lots of young people–the font from which much new language usage flows.


The rest of the link is some american PC terms but you get what im talking about.

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Re: Political Correctness
Reply #1 - Jul 6th, 2012 at 2:53pm
 
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 6th, 2012 at 2:47pm:
Sure its PC to call a person who is obese "fatty" but should you do it?

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It's PC to call someone fatty?

Cheesy

Get a proof reader ........ retard.

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Reply #2 - Jul 6th, 2012 at 2:56pm
 
There i fixed it you ethically and intellectually challenged person (is that the right word?)

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Reply #3 - Jul 6th, 2012 at 3:01pm
 
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 6th, 2012 at 2:56pm:
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Reply #4 - Jul 6th, 2012 at 3:08pm
 
An excellent essay, especially for those who still labor under the delusion that political correctness is nothing more tha a minor inconvenience, at worst. 

http://www.academia.org/the-origins-of-political-correctness/
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Reply #5 - Jul 6th, 2012 at 3:09pm
 
PC has been over abused and used to silence people. Then again without it, the world would be a pretty rude place. There is a middle ground but I doubt we will ever be at the middle or stay at the middle.
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Reply #6 - Jul 6th, 2012 at 3:45pm
 
... wrote on Jul 6th, 2012 at 3:08pm:
An excellent essay, especially for those who still labor under the delusion that political correctness is nothing more tha a minor inconvenience, at worst. 

http://www.academia.org/the-origins-of-political-correctness/


lol. It does seem to rant a bit on your favourite topic. Well do you think women were never oppressed?

No matter. Most ppls understanding of political correctness has nothing to do with history. In fact it has to do with ppl wanting to be able to denigrate groups of ppl with impunity.

You poor poor lil white male. Poor picked on white male.

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Reply #7 - Jul 6th, 2012 at 3:48pm
 
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 6th, 2012 at 3:45pm:
... wrote on Jul 6th, 2012 at 3:08pm:
An excellent essay, especially for those who still labor under the delusion that political correctness is nothing more tha a minor inconvenience, at worst. 

http://www.academia.org/the-origins-of-political-correctness/


lol. It does seem to rant a bit on your favourite topic. Well do you think women were never oppressed?

No matter. Most ppls understanding of political correctness has nothing to do with history. In fact it has to do with ppl wanting to be able to denigrate groups of ppl with impunity.

You poor poor lil white male. Poor picked on white male.

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Most peoples understanding of political correctness has nothing to do with reality.
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Reply #8 - Jul 6th, 2012 at 4:04pm
 
Well @ any rate it shouldn't be legislated eg holocaust denial being illegal in some countries. Most if it is common sense though. And manners. Why would you want to go arounbd "offending" ppl? You call out "poofter!" @ an obviously gay person and dont be surprised if you get bashed up.

Of course ppl in here are anonymous so they do stuff they would never have the guts to do in real life. I cant imagine friyay or soren getting away with their outright insulting abusiveness in normal life. They would get bashed or shot or something.

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Reply #9 - Jul 6th, 2012 at 4:04pm
 
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 6th, 2012 at 2:47pm:
I see ppl railing against "PC" all the time. Seems to me that the ppl that are so against it are rude buggers. They use being "anti-PC" as an excuse to call ppl nvggers and fatties and dole bludgers. To be judgemental bigots basically and to get away with being socially unacceptable. This leads me to think that all "PC" means is manners.

Any bugger that claims to be "against PC" and calls my sisters asylum seeker boyfriend an "illegal immigrant" or my poor dumb uncle that works for the council a "stupid retard" is prolly going to get bashed or ignored or reported depending on the circumstances. Sure its not PC to call a person who is obese "fatty" but should you do it? You dont know if they are that way because of a glandular thing. Its none of your business anyway.

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But are you not the great believer in free speech?

It’s only words, correct?

Why would anyone need protection from only words?

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Reply #10 - Jul 6th, 2012 at 4:16pm
 
FriYAY wrote on Jul 6th, 2012 at 4:04pm:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 6th, 2012 at 2:47pm:
I see ppl railing against "PC" all the time. Seems to me that the ppl that are so against it are rude buggers. They use being "anti-PC" as an excuse to call ppl nvggers and fatties and dole bludgers. To be judgemental bigots basically and to get away with being socially unacceptable. This leads me to think that all "PC" means is manners.

Any bugger that claims to be "against PC" and calls my sisters asylum seeker boyfriend an "illegal immigrant" or my poor dumb uncle that works for the council a "stupid retard" is prolly going to get bashed or ignored or reported depending on the circumstances. Sure its not PC to call a person who is obese "fatty" but should you do it? You dont know if they are that way because of a glandular thing. Its none of your business anyway.

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But are you not the great believer in free speech?

It’s only words, correct?

Why would anyone need protection from only words?

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Where did i say i needed protection?

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Reply #11 - Jul 6th, 2012 at 4:17pm
 
Society has far more unwritten laws than written ones, and for good reason.  When something is codfied in law, it is subject to rigid interpretation - we all know you shouldn't cut in to the front of a queue, so there is no need for an official law to state as such.  Anyone doing so will have their attitude checked, it sorts itself out, without the state/judiciary wasting it's time.

But what political correctness does is to transfer the potential for society to self-govern into the hands of the bureaucracy.  ie tightening the grip of control.
It is nothing to do with maintaining standards of decency, which should be obvious.  Society has managed to regulate itself for all of human history, it does not need the massive might of the bureaucracy to do so.
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Reply #12 - Jul 6th, 2012 at 4:22pm
 
lol haha ok so you quoted the op again not the last post. Didnt read it straight away cause well why would i read the quote. You didnt like what i said about the internet huh? Big bad fella on the internet huh.

Do you act like that in real life? Hmmmm? I dont want to shut you up. Your free speech is safe but if you acted like that in real life you wouldn't be here now because you would be in hospital. Its not "PC" @ all its just trolling.

In real life there arent laws (hopefully) about what you can say but if you are an assholey dickwhacker no-one is going to go anywhere near you.

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Reply #13 - Jul 6th, 2012 at 4:23pm
 
... wrote on Jul 6th, 2012 at 4:17pm:
Society has far more unwritten laws than written ones, and for good reason.  When something is codfied in law, it is subject to rigid interpretation - we all know you shouldn't cut in to the front of a queue, so there is no need for an official law to state as such.  Anyone doing so will have their attitude checked, it sorts itself out, without the state/judiciary wasting it's time.

But what political correctness does is to transfer the potential for society to self-govern into the hands of the bureaucracy.  ie tightening the grip of control


Have you got an example of that? In Australia?

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Reply #14 - Jul 6th, 2012 at 4:24pm
 
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 6th, 2012 at 4:23pm:
... wrote on Jul 6th, 2012 at 4:17pm:
Society has far more unwritten laws than written ones, and for good reason.  When something is codfied in law, it is subject to rigid interpretation - we all know you shouldn't cut in to the front of a queue, so there is no need for an official law to state as such.  Anyone doing so will have their attitude checked, it sorts itself out, without the state/judiciary wasting it's time.

But what political correctness does is to transfer the potential for society to self-govern into the hands of the bureaucracy.  ie tightening the grip of control


Have you got an example of that? In Australia?

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WTF?  Go and cut in at the front of a queue, and tell me how it goes. 
Go and call someone a racial slur and let me know how that goes.

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